The Greens

[peetoo]

Well the crap Labor are giving us now as they shift to the right is not ‘better outcomes’

Which pieces of legislation the greens are joining with the LNP to block are a ‘shift to the right’

Housing scheme or student caps? Did I miss any?

When the greens get enough votes to form govt, then they can say what goes into legislation

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Which pieces of legislation the greens are joining with the LNP to block are a ‘shift to the right’

Housing scheme or student caps? Did I miss any?

When the greens get enough votes to form govt, then they can say what goes into legislation

When Labor control both house and senate, they won’t need to negotiate with minor parties and/or independents.

Can’t see that happening any time soon.

 

[Saint]

Abbott wiped out the significant ones, with a massive mandate.

I’m reminded of the Whitlam quote ‘of course the impotent are pure’

The situation is there’s a massive Murdoch campaign against ‘progressiveness’ but keep believing the green fantasy

Meanwhile they are practically in bed with the LNP, over student caps. So tahe rort where os students take pay for a course which eventually gets them riding an Uber eats e bike is ‘ progressive’ ? That’s the rort being closed here

A massive mandate? They needed 7 cross-bench Senators to vote with them to get things through the Senate.

We've had minority Governments in the Senate for practically all of Federation.

It's just the ALP are used to ruling by dictate. They don't know how to compromise, so they spend all their time in Government complaining about being blocked by the Greens and the LNP and get nothing done. Unless they become minority in the HoR as well, which is the only time they pull their finger out.

 

[peetoo]

Yep. The greens and LNPare voting for completely different reasons but together
Cheering on minority govt. the thing they are prioritising

 

[Seeds]

Greens are blocking caps on foreign students, along with Dutton, because they think its racist???

They will never win over people when thats the way they think.

 

[Seeds]

It would mean the Greens have a balance of power. That's good for the Greens. Any time the ALP are in power by themselves, they spend more time attacking the Greens and enacting centrist policies to try to win LNP voters.

Of course the Greens want a balance of power, then the ALP and Greens would pass progressive policies.

The Greens' most successful era was during the balance of power era with Gillard, also probably the best Govt in the 2000's.

Didnt gillard government get rid of the carbon tax? Was that with or without the greens help?

 

[Chief]

Greens are blocking caps on foreign students, along with Dutton, because they think its racist???

They will never win over people when thats the way they think.

What was their actual reasoning? Like, what did they say?

 

[Gralin]

I'm pretty left-wing compared to (I dare say) most people. I'll keep preferencing the Greens first while they are advocating for dental in Medicare, massive increases in public (not social) housing and increased welfare benefits, and Labor isn't.

Unfortunately they look like they're going to the election on student debt more than welfare payments currently

We'll see what happens though

Who puts the Greens first but preferences the LNP over Labor?

Have you met the teals voters, there's quite a few that in the past have voted greens then LNP

Greens are blocking caps on foreign students, along with Dutton, because they think its racist???

They will never win over people when thats the way they think.

They're being consistent with their own immigration policy unlike the coalition

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Yep. The greens and LNPare voting for completely different reasons but together
Cheering on minority govt. the thing they are prioritising

This is what you want, status quo? The uniparty?

 

[Saint]

Didnt gillard government get rid of the carbon tax? Was that with or without the greens help?

Gillard passed it with the Greens in 2011. Abbott repealed it in 2014 with 7 cross-bench senators.

You can see that period clearly in Australia's emissions as a steady decline. Imagine if we didn't have the period between 2014 and 2019 where emissions went up, we might have actually reduced them overall and be able to face our Pacific neighbours with a straight face.

 

[peetoo]

When Labor control both house and senate, they won’t need to negotiate with minor parties and/or independents.

Can’t see that happening any time soon.d

This is what you want, status quo? The uniparty?

Once we no longer have a cost of living crisis why not? That’s how it goes isn’t it?

 

[peetoo]

Gillard passed it with the Greens in 2011. Abbott repealed it in 2014 with 7 cross-bench senators.

You can see that period clearly in Australia's emissions as a steady decline. Imagine if we didn't have the period between 2014 and 2019 where emissions went up, we might have actually reduced them overall and be able to face our Pacific neighbours with a straight face.

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Steep fall during pandemic with economic reaction after pandemic

 

[peetoo]

Which pieces of legislation the greens are joining with the LNP to block are a ‘shift to the right’

Housing scheme or student caps? Did I miss any?

When the greens get enough votes to form govt, then they can say what goes into legislation

So no one answering this?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Once we no longer have a cost of living crisis why not? That’s how it goes isn’t it?

Labor and LNP are the ones responsible for your cost of living crisis.

Yet here you are, cheering them on.

Keep trying the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Pretty sure there is a word for that.

 

[peetoo]

Labor and LNP are the ones responsible for your cost of living crisis.

Yet here you are, cheering them on.

Keep trying the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Pretty sure there is a word for that.

Extreme left and extreme right colluding to block moderates…what’s the word for that?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Extreme left and extreme right colluding to block moderates…what’s the word for that?

Wtf? It’s your ‘moderates’ teaming up to block parliamentary scrutiny.

Did you not read the words on the tweet that you are commenting on?

 

[peetoo]

Wtf? It’s your ‘moderates’ trying to block parliamentary scrutiny.

Did you not read the words on the tweet that you are commenting on?

Remind me cos I didn’t start this conversation on that, it was on the student visa mess left by the liberal govt

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Remind me cos I didn’t start this conversation on that, it was on the student visa mess left by the liberal govt

You quoted the tweet I posted then commented on it ffs.

Scroll up, it’s right there.

 

[peetoo]

Which pieces of legislation the greens are joining with the LNP to block are a ‘shift to the right’

Housing scheme or student caps? Did I miss any?

When the greens get enough votes to form govt, then they can say what goes into legislation

Ghost patrol? You seem to have all the answers? Miss this one?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Ghost patrol? You seem to have all the answers? Miss this one?

No I didn’t miss it. You have problems with comprehension.

 

[peetoo]

No I didn’t miss it. You have problems with comprehension.

Let’s just say the two of us are having different conversations, so don’t pretend it’s the same one

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Let’s just say the two of us are having different conversations, so don’t pretend it’s the same one

Yeah, you’re happy with the major party collusion and blame the greens. I’m saying **** that.

It’s the same conversation.

 

[peetoo]

Yeah, you’re happy with the major party collusion and blame the greens. I’m saying **** that.

It’s the same conversation.

Quote me where I said that, you’re projecting

The way it’s going Dutton might be elected on an anti immigration stance, but then be a total fail on immigration

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Quote me where I said that, you’re projecting

The way it’s going Dutton might be elected on an anti immigration stance, but then be a total fail on immigration

Scroll up and read what you quoted, and what you replied.

Waste of time trying to converse with you.

 

[Saint]

Extreme left and extreme right colluding to block moderates…what’s the word for that?

Every party other than Government thinks legislation is a bad idea.

Govt supporter - all the extremists are against us.

Everybody is against it including all except one of the crossbench?

The ALP wants Greens support without offering anything in return. That's not negotiation.