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Autopsy The Kumbaya everything is wonderful again Dogs 124. Saints 10 goals less thread.
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Not much doubt about that , as if you don't have some sort of impact as sub next step is back to the VFL.
And none of them want to give up the match payment and not play in the top grade
Would keep Lobb if he wants to stay but suspect he may seek a trade himself at the end of the year
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In 1996, Joyce started him at CHB, and he pretty much played the whole season there, with very few short forays forward. He actually kicked a number of his goals in 96 running off his man. Carey said Grant was his hardest opponent in 96. The last game in r22 v Essendon, Hird and Grant were probably equal BOG. But Bombers pipped us by under a goal, Hird got 3 votes, Grant 2.
Hird and Voss (and the suspended McKernan) tied on 21, Grant equal second with Nathan Burke on 20.
We beat Bombers, Grant likely would have got 3 and Hird 2. ☹
He wasn't a swing man under Wallace until later, not in 97, played the first 4 and a bit games in defence in 1997 (we went L-W-W-W), with round 2 and 4 of those drawing 3 brownlow votes each, then moved to CHF in round 5 v Adelaide, and stayed there.
Agree swinging him back in the prelim may have saved the game, although we had no ideal match for Jarman, which is why Curley was the unfortunate sitting duck. Grant back may have forced Crows wider, and he could have just sat between CHB and their goal square. But they were on a roll, and Jarman was unstoppable, so who knows.
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No doubt Weightman influences the game with his early goals that require a change of plans for the opposition. Can only be good if he can disrupt the opposition's plans and open up opportunities for others.
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Just back from a trip to the red centre…I just don’t get this team. That’s all I have to say about that.
As a team we have shown that we can play pretty well when things are on our terms, and everything is "clicking". Credit where credit is due, but how much of the result was down to the opposition having a really poor night? That being said, we won convincingly which is always better than losing.
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My recollection was Grant played CHB in 96 and when Wallace took over from 97 he played predominantly forward. Spent little time in defence during the Wallace period.
Our team's pressure was good, at the standard it needs to be. Likewise, Saint's pressure was uncharacteristically bad, which allowed us to do what we please for most of the game.
Yes and the bullshit that keeps getting spouted about him being on massive coin is just wrong.
Rumoured to be on $500k per year - the average AFL wage is $450k - he is a better than average player so Sam Power has got that one just right.
They were missing King, Crouch, Webster, Henry, Wood and Paton and maybe another one or two from their best 18.
Yes, two of the best three missing from the game were ours (Libba & Marra), but I reckon that depleted Saints side in their third game in 11 days wasn’t the hardest opponent.
I won’t be raising my hopes for this team’s prospects this year off the back of this win, as enjoyable as it was. Will instead be watching keenly to see what we do against Freo.
Yes, two of the best three missing from the game were ours (Libba & Marra), but I reckon that depleted Saints side in their third game in 11 days wasn’t the hardest opponent.
I won’t be raising my hopes for this team’s prospects this year off the back of this win, as enjoyable as it was. Will instead be watching keenly to see what we do against Freo.
Those 6 I named are all best 18 for the Saints when available.
A very astute observation, perhaps because it matches mine. I rate him much better than serviceable. He’s a superior tap ruckman to English and/or Darcy and, as you point out, has the best forward craft in the team.
Webster’s played 1 VFL game and 57 AFL games the last 3 years so he’s not really debatable. Paton, maybe. It’s picking nits though, they were pretty bad and there were some reasons for it. Hard to take too much from it for us.
Just because they are best 22 doesn’t mean they are good.
Perhaps indicative of the infrequency of playing well
Whether that’s true or not it has no bearing on my opinion. I’m just looking at the facts. I don’t recall anyone making excuses for Melbourne or Brisbane last time we beat them though.
Always a bit of a throwaway line 'they were missing'...
It's not as if they don't replace them with new players.
Ross Lyon always gets his soldiers up
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We were missing Coffield, Libba, Marra and Smith. It’s all much of a muchness.
Seems it’s just me but I didn’t think they looked particularly up for it on Thursday. If others think differently that presumably bodes well for us against Freo.
Grand total of their losses was a goal before Thursday.
They don't score heavily but don't allow much through either.
They might have been off a bit but personnel isn't an excuse for them ... they are a system team... and they were only missing King from last week who was crap last week too.
