Oppo Camp The Non-North Footy Discussion & Matchday Chat Thread (NNFD&MCT) VIII

[RobZombie]

The only way forward that I can see working is a massive cull of all the senior players who don't care enough. But as far as I can tell from reading what others say, that's not a viable option either.

What are these “senior players” of which you speak? Who is above 23, currently in the ones, and doesn’t care? I have a chart you can refer to in case it helps.

 

[Marstermind]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-backs-late-dissent-call-in-carltons-win-over-freo-but-admits-error-beforehand/news-story/ecf94641bf0b95dac4800366e354bf85?amp&nk=985f649bccaed054fc2ed5b92a752e72-1712469655

so Jordan Clark is apparently going with the story that he was actaully berating himself, in the third person, when the ump paid the dissent free kick...

 

[The acurate one]

What are these “senior players” of which you speak? Who is above 23, currently in the ones, and doesn’t care? I have a chart you can refer to in case it helps.
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As an aside Ford Lazzaro sounds like a car.

Yes ok vinyl seats and no aircon

 

[The Talent Scout]

Doesn't like confined places

Sensational post, couldn't stop laughing!

 

[Sillygit]

the stroke off of hawthorn from the commentary never ceases to amaze

 

[Sillygit]

"inspired, amazing half time move, still in this" still 6 goals down

 

[TheKanga]

"it's the ginnivan tax" regarding a 50m penalty from the commentary.

Get stuffed such terrible barracking commentary.

 

[DrZaius]

"inspired, amazing half time move, still in this" still 6 goals down

6 goals down is probably about right statistically speaking. Though they've only had 2 less inside 50's

 

[DrZaius]

The Ginnivan commentary is cringe

 

[big_e]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-backs-late-dissent-call-in-carltons-win-over-freo-but-admits-error-beforehand/news-story/ecf94641bf0b95dac4800366e354bf85?amp&nk=985f649bccaed054fc2ed5b92a752e72-1712469655

so Jordan Clark is apparently going with the story that he was actaully berating himself, in the third person, when the ump paid the dissent free kick...

 

[The Law]

The Ginnivan commentary is cringe

they don't shut up. flashbacks of the Lindsay Thomas stuff. hijacks about 5 minutes each quarter

 

[Cyber_punk]

Hawthorn having an actual dip by the looks of it. 14pts down against the reigning premiers

Not very confident at all against them now

God we are so very far back

 

[The Talent Scout]

Hawthorn fighting back to be only 14 points down in this last quarter with 15 minutes left, are you serious! Collingwood should be flogging them with Hawthorns outs, the pies aren't a shadow of the team that won the premiership.

 

[RooStu15]

I'm not sure we are beating the hawks or WC after this weekend

 

[Amicalola]

What are these “senior players” of which you speak? Who is above 23, currently in the ones, and doesn’t care? I have a chart you can refer to in case it helps.
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That's really interesting. You're right, there's less of them than I thought - which is good, because it makes me think they probably actually could be dropped. The big two to me are Corr and LMac, I'd be completely fine bringing Pink and Archer in for them. Yeah those two don't offer leadership, but LMac and Corr don't either.

The other is Tucker, who I think probably does try but isn't good enough, and similarly brings no leadership anyway. Another easy swap for Phillips/Lazzaro from last week's team.

Then Stephens/Stephenson have both been terrible, but it's hard to know if it's because they aren't trying or just aren't in good form at the moment. Similarly, neither bring any leadership afaict, so I'd happily swap them for Sellers and Drury (and move Ford to Stephens' wing).

I'm not a coach and I'm sure there are reasons they haven't done exactly these changes. But I think the cost of keeping significantly under-performing veterans in based purely on age (because it definitely isn't form or genuine leadership) is too high. I would love to be a fly on the wall for selection this week and hear how the decision is justified.

Also want to add that sure, the kids don't beat Hawthorn or WCE let alone better teams. But neither do the vets.

 

[ferball]

Check to see how I know Michael Pell’s name. Wonder at the stupendous gall of him setting himself up as a moral arbitrator on anything, let alone football.

Isn't he that bent umpire.

("Which one" - all of BF.)

 

[archereleven]

What happened to Pendles?

On SM-G991B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[ferball]

Been brilliant, very skilled. I mean we opened the door with Majak, but are there alot of Sudenese boys playing locally to draft / rookie ?
Saw a bit of Buku Kamis after getting home last night. He was good too.
Gotta hope Biggy gains these heights

Khamis was great, good decision to switch him down back

I'd like to see Charlie Comben take it on the way he did last night.

 

[cybercrab]

We could only dream of what the hawks have done today

 

[Sillygit]

if just one thread could be free from the "woe is us" i was hopin it could be this one

 

[Marstermind]

Hawthorn have more belief, greater leadership, and more maturity than us. We're not beating them.

 

[Samsquanch]

Jump on Lefau for the Kerridge

I'm going to pick the pin-head with the shit tatts and the weird haircut. Looks like a wannabe New Zealand outlaw motorcycle gang member. Nate and Kraks will tell me if he's eligible.

 

[Sillygit]

lookin more like a premiership migraine than hangover at the moment

 

[Samsquanch]

The Great Leap Forward '24. From 17th to 16th.

There's a picture of Jaidyn Stephenson running in for a Joe-the-Goose goal on the cover.

Do you mean the one where, as he kicked the goal one of the captains gave away a free?

 

[Ligma]

We bet Collingwood btw just to refresh some people’s memories