The Otherworldly Circus - The America Thread

[yebach]

The victory lap for the criminal rapist fans still in full swing fos
No one I’ve seen on here has denied Trump won the election.

Hi Harold
Just for my own morbid curiosity. What are/were your thoughts on Bill Clinton when he was in politics?

P.s. sincerely hope you had a safe and happy Christmas.

 

[Bulldog1954]

The victory lap for the criminal rapist fans still in full swing fos
No one I’ve seen on here has denied Trump won the election.

We got told in this thread both sides were the same, yet Biden and Harris both spoke about a peaceful and seamless transition of power

Really nice Christmas message from the Evangelicals favourite man, featuring his thoughts on taking over both Canada and Greenland, but no mention of Jesus.

 

[King Harold]

Hi Harold
Just for my own morbid curiosity. What are/were your thoughts on Bill Clinton when he was in politics?

P.s. sincerely hope you had a safe and happy Christmas.

Are you alluding to the Lewinsky affair or his Presidency in general ?

As for his Administration, from memory his economy was quite strong , with good growth and unemployment low overall,
However globalisation was in full swing , resulting in the loss of many blue collar industries decimating whole communities.
While tech industries took off , steel making and the car plants were gradually disappearing from the rust belt states.
Here we are today with the wealth gulf resulting in many Americans disenchanted with their lot in the
“wealthiest country “on earth.
You can mount the argument he is partly responsible for the massive divide today ?

What do you think ?

As for the Lewinsky thing, yep ethically and morally wrong, but not a criminal offence.
Can’t say the same for new President elect.

 

[yebach]

Are you alluding to the Lewinsky affair or his Presidency in general ?

As for his Administration, from memory his economy was quite strong , with good growth and unemployment low overall,
However globalisation was in full swing , resulting in the loss of many blue collar industries decimating whole communities.
While tech industries took off , steel making and the car plants were gradually disappearing from the rust belt states.
Here we are today with the wealth gulf resulting in many Americans disenchanted with their lot in the
“wealthiest country “on earth.
You can mount the argument he is partly responsible for the massive divide today ?

What do you think ?

As for the Lewinsky thing, yep ethically and morally wrong, but not a criminal offence.
Can’t say the same for new President elect.

Thanks for your response Harold.

Bill Clinton was accused of raping or sexualy assaulting Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones and Leslie Millwee.
Innocent until proven guilty.
He paid $850,000 USD to make the Paula Jones case go away.
The other cases also went away.

Bill Clinton built a fence (wall) on the California/Mexico boarder 523 kms long. And everybody loved it.

The Clinton "Foundation". I'll let you make up your own mind about that one.

This isn't a crack at you Harold. But what baffles me is that I can't recall anyone at the time or since being outraged by Bill's behaviour.
Surely we should be holding all politicians and leaders to the same standards.

 

[King Harold]

Thanks for your response Harold.

Bill Clinton was accused of raping or sexualy assaulting Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones and Leslie Millwee.
Innocent until proven guilty.
He paid $850,000 USD to make the Paula Jones case go away.
The other cases also went away.

Bill Clinton built a fence (wall) on the California/Mexico boarder 523 kms long. And everybody loved it.

The Clinton "Foundation". I'll let you make up your own mind about that one.

This isn't a crack at you Harold. But what baffles me is that I can't recall anyone at the time or since being outraged by Bill's behaviour.
Surely we should be holding all politicians and leaders to the same standards.

There was no big footy back in the day, so maybe I would have been all over those issues but I’m not here to defend Clinton or anybody else.
My discussion is the suitability of Trump to be the leader of anything, you and others seem to be arguing because others
had “ baggage “ why can’t he ?

Anyway , don’t want to spoil 4Season’s day , you all know what I think.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Thanks for your response Harold.

Bill Clinton was accused of raping or sexualy assaulting Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones and Leslie Millwee.
Innocent until proven guilty.
He paid $850,000 USD to make the Paula Jones case go away.
The other cases also went away.

Bill Clinton built a fence (wall) on the California/Mexico boarder 523 kms long. And everybody loved it.

The Clinton "Foundation". I'll let you make up your own mind about that one.

This isn't a crack at you Harold. But what baffles me is that I can't recall anyone at the time or since being outraged by Bill's behaviour.
Surely we should be holding all politicians and leaders to the same standards.

Pre social media so doesn't count. Nobody was telling others what they should think back then

 

[King Harold]

Pre social media so doesn't count. Nobody was telling others what they should think back then

Here is someone on the subject that may be of interest.
Hitchens was one of the world’s greatest and fearless intellectuals, he certainly told it as he saw it.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Who knew that King Ketamine, Vivfake and MAGA would fall out over race and immigration.

Just wait until MAGA comes to realise that Donald Trump is also a supporter of H1B visas.



This movement will eat itself.

 

[King Harold]

And here is Hitchens on Trump.
Called him out for the complete fraud he is ,well before any run for office.

What did Hitchens say about Donald Trump? | Christopher Hitchens

A look into the power of names and how they can shape a person's image and success, with a focus on the infamous Donald Trump.

christophererichitchens.com

 

[yebach]

Which part of my post did you find funny Charlie Bucket?

The part where Clinton assaulted women?
The part where he payed them to be quiet?
The part where he built a wall to keep Mexicans out?
The part where he created the Clinton Foundation for personal gain?

 

[Fossie 32]

Thanks for your response Harold.

Bill Clinton was accused of raping or sexualy assaulting Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones and Leslie Millwee.
Innocent until proven guilty.
He paid $850,000 USD to make the Paula Jones case go away.
The other cases also went away.

Bill Clinton built a fence (wall) on the California/Mexico boarder 523 kms long. And everybody loved it.

The Clinton "Foundation". I'll let you make up your own mind about that one.

This isn't a crack at you Harold. But what baffles me is that I can't recall anyone at the time or since being outraged by Bill's behaviour.
Surely we should be holding all politicians and leaders to the same standards.

So if all this is true doesn’t justify Trump being president?

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Clinton Whataboutism

This is f***ing hilarious

 

[yebach]

So if all this is true doesn’t justify Trump being president?

I never said it did.
Like I said, I'm baffled as to why Clinton wasn't and isn't being held to the same standards. Not only Clinton but a whole bunch of politicians/leaders over the years.

 

[yebach]

Clinton Whataboutism

This is f***ing hilarious

Why don't you go back to being the self appointed crusader of women's rights and in the same breath be the only person in this forum to sl*t shame.

 

[King Harold]

So if all this is true doesn’t justify Trump being president?

Fos there is no way of convincing some of Trumps unsuitably.
We have now gone back 20 years I assume to prove to us Trumps not that bad after all ?
Never mind his other charges or grift or previously presiding over a chaotic administration.

 

[yebach]

Fos there is no way of convincing some of Trumps unsuitably.
We have now gone back 20 years I assume to prove to us Trumps not that bad after all ?
Never mind his other charges or grift or previously presiding over a chaotic administration.

It's amazing how you're completely ignoring the point of my original post in order to push your own agenda.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Why don't you go back to being the self appointed crusader of women's rights and in the same breath be the only person in this forum to sl*t shame.

What are you on about? Where did I shame anyone other than you?

This is Elon Musk level social media meltdown Yebach. Log off for a while.

 

[yebach]

What are you on about? Where did I shame anyone other than you?

This is Elon Musk level social media meltdown Yebach. Log off for a while.

You sl*t shamed a republican politician. Then deleted your posts.

And I'm saddened that it's only a few of us on here that ever call you out on your behaviour.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

You sl*t shamed a republican politician. Then deleted your posts.

And I'm saddened that it's only a few of us on here that ever call you out on your behaviour.

I’ll take things that never happened for a thousand thanks Alex.

 

[King Harold]

It's amazing how you're completely ignoring the point of my original post in order to push your own agenda.

How anyone can be amazed by what I have been posting on this thread ,well I’m amazed !

You think Trump is suitable, I don’t.
Pretty much that simple !
what Clinton or Roosevelt or Lincoln or indeed Biden have done has no relevance.

Good news for you , you have 4 years to cheer him on.

 

[yebach]

How anyone can be amazed by what I have been posting on this thread ,well I’m amazed !

You think Trump is suitable, I don’t.
Pretty much that simple !
what Clinton or Roosevelt or Lincoln or indeed Biden have done has no relevance.

Good news for you , you have 4 years to cheer him on.

Jesus Harold!
Have you ever actually read any of my posts?
I'm not for Trump. I'm just trying to highlight how broken the system is. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Jesus Harold!
Have you ever actually read any of my posts?
I'm not for Trump. I'm just trying to highlight how broken the system is. Nothing more, nothing less.

Do you actually read any of your posts?

You unsuccessfully attempted to catch out some posters by bringing up stuff that Clinton did 30 years ago.

Now that it’s gone belly up, you claim you were just highlighting a broken system.

And you wonder why posters laugh at you.

 

[Fossie 32]

I never said it did.
Like I said, I'm baffled as to why Clinton wasn't and isn't being held to the same standards. Not only Clinton but a whole bunch of politicians/leaders over the years.

Fair enough to expect them all to be held to the same standards but I wasn’t aware of any of his misdemeanours other than the M Lewinsky episode which was during his term whereas Trump has multiple issues which were all known before he was elected

 

[King Harold]

Jesus Harold!
Have you ever actually read any of my posts?
I'm not for Trump. I'm just trying to highlight how broken the system is. Nothing more, nothing less.

You’re not for Trump ?
Noticed you “ loved” my posting of Hitchens thoughts on Clinton, not so much so on his thoughts on Trump.

Systems broken ?
Now that’s a complicated discussion, more suited to an afternoon chat over a beer.

 

[King Harold]

S—— , hope 4seasons is at the cricket !
It’s Yebach’s fault , dragging me back into the fray