Preview The Swans Redemption Arc Goes On - Sydney vs Port Adelaide - Preliminary Final

[OhhhhhCyril]

If you could all do us a massive favor and flog port and then geelong, what would be great.
Best team all year and deserve it. Best of luck

 

[Adnico26Parker]

When was the last time Fox played a game? Has he even played reserves since his shoulder injury?

Play Adams for midfield grunt and great blocks at stoppages. Shame about his delivery inside 50.

Perhaps Parker as the sub cos he’d come on super pissed off.

Good point

He was the sub in the Rd 24 game vs Crows; got 2 disposals

Missed the Rd 23 Essendon game with the kidney injury

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

McInerney? If he's playing he better have pulled up a hell of a lot better then when he did the other week.

He will be playing so let’s hope so.

Based on his last performance, I would settle for sketchy first quarter and then he works his way into it with some important plays in the fourth. If he needs to be subbed off again, it is a dead right fail.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

Port played on emotion last week after copping a pasting in the media and a Ginnivan post. Not sure they play with that intensity this week given they belted us last time

After they belted us last time you would hope pride kicks in and we turn up to repay the favour.

Can we get Grundy to message a Geelong player and a Brisbane player on Instagram that he will see him sometime next year? You know, really give them a false sense of security!

 

[ShireSwan]

Fox on Burgoyne?

 

[ShireSwan]

This dropping/subbing JMac is beyond weird

If he started 2 weeks ago he should start this week. He’ll be a million times better for the run, think of him like a racehorse, you need a run before they go well. He’s not a first up specialist!

Fox for Mills

Campbell stays sub we finally have found a great sub

I think that's the way it will go.

But I don't think it should.

McInerney is a real good player when he's on, but he's far from undropable, and Campbell did everything and more you'd want out of that position in just a quarter - and has been in great form for a month. McInerney up till now can have stretches of games where he isn't adding much at all to the team (people seem to forget quickly due to his great form this year). To my mind in a prelim you go with the player in fitness and form in Campbell and I'd have a well rested Adams as sub and McInerney as emergency - still with a chance of appearing in the big one.

Carrying one player in this game could be the difference between winning and losing. Certainly in the GF if we make it through. The stats tell us clearly who should play. One quarter Vs 3 quarters output. If you aggregate Campbell contributes twice as much. That is a huge boost to the team.


In anycase lets hope if McInerney plays that he contributes more to winning than last time and we go into a GF with confidence he's going to produce his best.

 

[Tedeski]

Port played on emotion last week after copping a pasting in the media and a Ginnivan post. Not sure they play with that intensity this week given they belted us last time

After they belted us last time you would hope pride kicks in and we turn up to repay the favour.

They've beaten us the last 8 times. It's a thing.
Many of our players have never beaten them. That's the danger.
It will be in the Port players' heads positively & in ours negatively.
Should they get a jump on us, it will a battle for our group to overcome the demons of past games.

Paul Roos couldn't beat any Malthouse coached Collingwood team.
Not once. Gulden is the key here. They shut him down & we & our gameplan are rendered useless.

What may save us?
The extra week rest. The home ground advantage.
But we need to snap out of our slumber v Port Adelaide.

 

[zyzzbruh]

Suspension aside, I can't understand why Wicks is even being mentioned. His form in the seniors was very ordinary hence he was dropped to the reserves. Did nothing special whilst playing in the reserves other than get suspended.
My God, more than half the people here suggest we should drop McInerney yet bring in someone like Wicks. Crazy.
If we want to win the premiership, we need McInerney in the in the side and in the form he was in 10 weeks ago. He is in the top 10 of our playing list. If you want to drop him and replace him with a player ranked 23-24 say Goodbye to winning the flag.

It's more a conversation around 'what if' it came down to that. If it's Wicks or Cleary then you go Wicks every time - Yeah the guy was out of form for a few games (mind you it was when the whole team was out of form), but his body of work and best footy has it over Cleary's 2 games AFL experience... At the end of the day come the pointy end you just have to back your better experienced players in (mcinerney included) and hope they go well.

 

[BloodySwan]

Campbell to defence, we need a reliable kick out of defence.

If Jmac is still a little proppy make him the sub and start Adams. We often struggle with the bigger bodies so a contested player in the middle should help us weather the first quarter

 

[SSwans2011]

Fox on Burgoyne?

Bringing in Fox to have him play forward (even in a defensive role) would be maybe the worst change we could make out of the options available to us.

If we're worried about Burgoyne's influence, Jordon should go to him.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Campbell to defence, we need a reliable kick out of defence.

If Jmac is still a little proppy make him the sub and start Adams. We often struggle with the bigger bodies so a contested player in the middle should help us weather the first quarter

Campbell being pushed back into defence is the reason Campbell remained a fringe player for so long.

He was superb on the wing / half-forward line against GWS. He needs to be there.

 

[bloodsbigot]

Watching port Vs swans 112 point loss now for some context.

Early observations: Francis and Ladhams huge liabilities. We look way more stable with Rampe and Melican in the team.

Francis is so slow and lazy. Being a good vfl player is nice, but he belongs nowhere near our A-team.

There ain't going to be no repeat of this. That's for damn sure.

 

[BloodySwan]

Campbell being pushed back into defence is the reason Campbell remained a fringe player for so long.

He was superb on the wing / half-forward line against GWS. He needs to be there.

He just played better, I don't think the position had as much to do with it. Really threw himself at the ball the last couple of matches which made all the difference

 

[dosser]

I do like it that a few of them keep pointing to the fact that they have the "EXACT SAME SIDE" that beat us by 112 a month ago (minus Houston and the other defender guy) so they should be able to walk it in.

But they neglect acknowledging we were playing a side with Ladhams and Francis FFS. And we were missing Rampe, Papley, Amartey, McInerney and Melican.

Same thing happened last year when a couple of key defenders were injured mid game. Losing defenders wrecks our structure.

The psychology of the footy fan. This week they will argue that history will repeat because they have the same side, but what will they say if they do beat us and have to face Geelong in the GF?

 

[ShireSwan]

Bringing in Fox to have him play forward (even in a defensive role) would be maybe the worst change we could make out of the options available to us.

If we're worried about Burgoyne's influence, Jordon should go to him.

Oh yeah, my bad. Had that the wrong way round in my head.
I guess that will be Hayward's job.

 

[Bloods86]

They've beaten us the last 8 times. It's a thing.
Many of our players have never beaten them. That's the danger.
It will be in the Port players' heads positively & in ours negatively.
Should they get a jump on us, it will a battle for our group to overcome the demons of past games.

Paul Roos couldn't beat any Malthouse coached Collingwood team.
Not once. Gulden is the key here. They shut him down & we & our gameplan are rendered useless.

What may save us?
The extra week rest. The home ground advantage.
But we need to snap out of our slumber v Port Adelaide.

Horse has beaten Ken before, so have some of our players.

Port will only have 3 players who have won a Prelim (Boak, Aliir, Rioli), 2 of them at other clubs.

Port haven't won 2 finals in a decade.

Port's last Prelim ended up in a 71 point loss at home, to a team they had a 6-2 record against in their last 8. They'd finished 2nd, won their QF and lost to the 5th placed Dogs.

 

[Tedeski]

Horse has beaten Ken before, so have some of our players.

Port will only have 3 players who have won a Prelim (Boak, Aliir, Rioli), 2 of them at other clubs.

Port haven't won 2 finals in a decade.

Port's last Prelim ended up in a 71 point loss at home, to a team they had a 6-2 record against in their last 8. They'd finished 2nd, won their QF and lost to the 5th placed Dogs.

Yep!
We need to do something different.
Kill the bad first quarters being the first.

 

[ShireSwan]

Watching port Vs swans 112 point loss now for some context.

Early observations: Francis and Ladhams huge liabilities. We look way more stable with Rampe and Melican in the team.

Francis is so slow and lazy. Being a good vfl player is nice, but he belongs nowhere near our A-team.

There ain't going to be no repeat of this. That's for damn sure.

I'd almost want Ladhams in ahead of McLean atm anyway. (Not going to happen)
Surely a better chance of taking some down the line marks and some inside 50 grabs than McLean atm. Last time they both played? (Which would obvioulsy make the forward line way too slow).
If I had to guess Ladhams will be moving on this year in the ruck merry-go-round, he's going to get game time elsewhere. Wonder if he ends up like Cameron, a very decent option for a team. Wouldn't surprise me.

 

[dosser]

I want to see Chad tweeting Dangerfield that he will see him next weekend.

 

[BloodySwan]

This would be the best Swans team we've had since 2016. No reason we shouldn't beat Port even if they bring their best.

 

[bloodsbigot]

I'd almost want Ladhams in ahead of McLean atm anyway. (Not going to happen)
Surely a better chance of taking some down the line marks and some inside 50 grabs than McLean atm. Last time they both played? (Which would obvioulsy make the forward line way too slow).
If I had to guess Ladhams will be moving on this year in the ruck merry-go-round, he's going to get game time elsewhere. Wonder if he ends up like Cameron, a very decent option for a team. Wouldn't surprise me.

I don't want Ladhams anywhere near the team.

McLean may not be perfect but he's not useless and can control his emotions unlike that nitwit Ladhams. Also we spent the entire preseason training for McLean, McDonald and Amartey as our three headed monster. Bringing in Ladhams while Amartey was injured threw off their system in my opinion.

Just watching the game now it's become painfully clear our forward line was dysfunctional with Ladhams. Very sad to see.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

I’m loving everyone’s options for how to set up the team. The best part is that I can find a way to agree with all of them, which means we are in a great place in terms of talent and depth. Replacing Mills even two years ago meant finding someone who really was up to standard to win finals. We are in such a good place now.

My thinking is based on Horse selection McInerney. I understand the thinking the behind this, though I am not without my reservations…

The replacement for Mills in defence in my mind either has to be Fox or Florent.

Structurally I prefer Fox, as he allows Florent to stay up the ground where Florent has been playing well. Fox could also potentially play tall in defence to free up McCartin to go forward Sicily-style if we are struggling to mark inside 50. Fox could also swing forward as a defensive forward if one of the Port players gets off the leash (isn’t one of their half backs a smokey to come back from injury?). The big question with Fox is whether he has the form. Only the coaches will know.

If Florent goes back for Mills instead, it is easier to fit Campbell into the team. Then I think the only question is whether Adams or Parker plays sub. I’d go Parker as I think Adams gives more pace and is still hard at it. He will also come on with a point to prove, as will Parker will he gets on. An aggressive Adams AND and aggressive Parker - yes please!

If we want to go more mobile upfront, my smokey is for Cleary to come in for Amarty - this would be predicated on Fox coming in, and being able to free up McCartin to play forward if we need more height mid game. This is my “gut play” as I just reckon Cleary is made for finals and McCartin would benefit from a circuit breaker if his form is still down mid game.

My guess on what actually happens: Florent /Campbell play back, Adams comes in, Parker to sub (I just can’t see / I hope like heck that they don’t play Adams as sub - he is not an impact player and he is not that versatile, it doesn’t make sense. I’d prefer Cleary or Fox as sub over Adam’s if they make minimal first 22 changes).

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

I don't want Ladhams anywhere near the team.

McLean may not be perfect but he's not useless and can control his emotions unlike that nitwit Ladhams. Also we spent the entire preseason training for McLean, McDonald and Amartey as our three headed monster. Bringing in Ladhams while Amartey was injured threw off their system in my opinion.

Just watching the game now it's become painfully clear our forward line was dysfunctional with Ladhams. Very sad to see.

Agree. Ladhams is a first ruck with very limited forward craft. He doesn’t play unless Grundy gets injured.

 

[melbournehammer]

I don't want Ladhams anywhere near the team.

McLean may not be perfect but he's not useless and can control his emotions unlike that nitwit Ladhams. Also we spent the entire preseason training for McLean, McDonald and Amartey as our three headed monster. Bringing in Ladhams while Amartey was injured threw off their system in my opinion.

Just watching the game now it's become painfully clear our forward line was dysfunctional with Ladhams. Very sad to see.

and what was the reason why our midfield was pulverised ?

 

[Olian]

They've beaten us the last 8 times. It's a thing.
Many of our players have never beaten them. That's the danger.
It will be in the Port players' heads positively & in ours negatively.
Should they get a jump on us, it will a battle for our group to overcome the demons of past games.

Paul Roos couldn't beat any Malthouse coached Collingwood team.
Not once. Gulden is the key here. They shut him down & we & our gameplan are rendered useless.

What may save us?
The extra week rest. The home ground advantage.
But we need to snap out of our slumber v Port Adelaide.

Prior to the 8 losses we had beaten them 14 out of 15 times over an 11 year period. You make no reference of that…. Is that not a thing? Do you just cherry pick what the media spurt out.

The better team will win on the day.

Swans to win.