Things that sh*t me the fifteenth part

[Gralin]

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[perthblue]

What are these Indigenous communities thinking by pretending that violent criminals like Walker are pillars of the community?

He was lucky to have survived the axe ordeal. Just too eager for a Darwin Award, that one.

 

[Kram]

And you have no issue with the fact that while a cop has him pinned down another cop walks over puts his gun into the guys abdomen, fires two shots point blank and gets found not guilty of murder?

It all happens very quickly after just being stabbed and the bloke still had the weapon in his hand wrestling his partner?

Obviously the wrong action was taken but it's very easy to be the Monday morning quarter back and just call everyone racist.

 

[Gralin]

It all happens very quickly after just being stabbed and the bloke still had the weapon in his hand wrestling his partner?

Obviously the wrong action was taken but it's very easy to be the Monday morning quarter back and just call everyone racist.

Thats not what I asked
You're comfortable with the fact a cop fired two shots at point blank range into a person being held down by his partner, killing him and getting off?

That's the standard apparently. A former SAS member who has killed someone getting the rubber stamp and free to go do it again.

Also said they'd do it again, don't regret it and wouldn't change anything if they could.

So we've got someone happy to kill people walking around free. You're cool with that? That he's still a cop and will have more opportunities to do this?

 

[Gralin]

What are these Indigenous communities thinking by pretending that violent criminals like Walker are pillars of the community?

He was lucky to have survived the axe ordeal. Just too eager for a Darwin Award, that one.

Are they saying that?
I'm seeing a lot of people saying a 19yo kid deserved to be murdered and also saying that no racism is involved anywhere
Curious

 

[Beerfish]

Just mowed the lawn and looks like we're in for a hosing.

When this happens but it doesn't hose

 

[Kram]

You’re off the planet

I'm beginning to even consider the possibility that all this time he's been having a lend of everybody and is really one of BF's finest ever trolls.

 

[Scotland]

Ah yes the old if I don't agree with your view I'm delusional

Everyone doesn't agree with you.

 

[craigos]

Seems like a classic case of "**** around and find out" to me.

 

[edgie]

People think standard low rung police have extreme combat training that allows them to make split second decisions seconds away from being attacked with potentially lethal weapons.

Their training at that sort of thing is basic as ****. Basic as ****. And even if it were more thorough, if you aren't actually in those situations frequently, it won't kick in.

That's why in life you see it takes 3 or more coppers to restrain one attacker, and the default method is usually stacks on.

Expecting them to react better is so completely out of touch, I mean, I just know people who say have very little experience in any sort of altercations and think life is a movie and Bruce Lee is the star.

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[Kram]

It wouldn't be the greatest job anywhere but seriously who would want to be a policeman or policewoman up there?

 

[Gralin]

People think standard low rung police have extreme combat training that allows them to make split second decisions seconds away from being attacked with potentially lethal weapons.

Their training at that sort of thing is basic as fu*. Basic as fu*. And even if it were more thorough, if you aren't actually in those situations frequently, it won't kick in.

That's why in life you see it takes 3 or more coppers to restrain one attacker, and the default method is usually stacks on.

Expecting them to react better is so completely out of touch, I mean, I just know people who say have very little experience in any sort of altercations and think life is a movie and Bruce Lee is the star.

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You know this guy was ex SAS and also in a military style police response unit where they got access to assault rifles yeah?

 

[Gralin]

Everyone doesn't agree with you.

Well a lot people on here seem to be comfortable with police brutality and racism but everyone seems a stretch

 

[Kram]

If you've been stabbed and are still in fear of further assault, lethal force is likely to be reasonable.

No jury was ever going to convict.

Anyone that thinks the guy isn't guilty of murder is racist.

 

[perthblue]

People think standard low rung police have extreme combat training that allows them to make split second decisions seconds away from being attacked with potentially lethal weapons.

Their training at that sort of thing is basic as fu*. Basic as fu*. And even if it were more thorough, if you aren't actually in those situations frequently, it won't kick in.

That's why in life you see it takes 3 or more coppers to restrain one attacker, and the default method is usually stacks on.

Expecting them to react better is so completely out of touch, I mean, I just know people who say have very little experience in any sort of altercations and think life is a movie and Bruce Lee is the star.

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There is a huge mental game involved, I think. Cops are generally "normal" people in that they have a career, a family, a stable home life. A violent criminal who attacks police with weapons has nothing to lose. It doesn't surprise me that most cops default to 'self-preservation' when faced with these situations.

But also, racism.

 

[Gralin]

Glad you're all having a good laugh about another black man dying at the hands of cops with the cop getting a documentary being made and the family of the dead 19 year old gagged by the courts for two years

5.7 with some nail scissors vs 4 cops not following procedure and you're all clapping like campaigners

But yeah keep making your jokes about how this is deserved and there isn't any racism involved in any of the process, coverage or comments

 

[perthblue]

I believe there is racism in the system, I don't believe this incident is an example of it.

 

[Metalcrusher]

Glad you're all having a good laugh about another black man dying at the hands of cops with the cop getting a documentary being made and the family of the dead 19 year old gagged by the courts for two years

5.7 with some nail scissors vs 4 cops not following procedure and you're all clapping like campaigners

But yeah keep making your jokes about how this is deserved and there isn't any racism involved in any of the process, coverage or comments

Maybe you should start lobbying if you feel that strongly about it.

 

[Gralin]

I believe there is racism in the system, I don't believe this incident is an example of it.

No?
Why not?

 

[gaskin]

Glad you're all having a good laugh about another black man dying at the hands of cops with the cop getting a documentary being made and the family of the dead 19 year old gagged by the courts for two years

5.7 with some nail scissors vs 4 cops not following procedure and you're all clapping like campaigners

But yeah keep making your jokes about how this is deserved and there isn't any racism involved in any of the process, coverage or comments

Yeah, because every incident involving a black person is racially motivated. I mean, grow the **** up, mate. This is the real world not some imaginary world you live in where racisim is everywhere. Nobody is saying that racisim doesn't exist within the system but this incident was not racially motivated.

I would also like to know how you know the police didn't follow procedure? I have not seen anyone say that it wasn't followed nor have I seen any cop say it.

There is a reason why he was found not guilty by a jury and the NT opposition are calling for an inquiry into why the cop was charged in the first place. You are alone in this and you are not going to change anyone's minds.

 

[Gralin]

Yeah, because every incident involving a black person is racially motivated. I mean, grow the fu** up, mate. This is the real world not some imaginary world you live in where racisim is everywhere. Nobody is saying that racisim doesn't exist within the system but this incident was not racially motivated.

I would also like to know how you know the police didn't follow procedure? I have not seen anyone say that it wasn't followed nor have I seen any cop say it.

There is a reason why he was found not guilty by a jury and the NT opposition are calling for an inquiry into why the cop was charged in the first place. You are alone in this and you are not going to change anyone's minds.

Sorry did you say this is the real world where racism isn't everywhere?

Like you think this shit happens in a bubble?

That the cops and governments dont enact racist policies, that they didn't have an all white jury (including a juror who's sister was a cop and she wasn't excused for a conflict) for a reason

That the media coverage especially from papers like the Australian aren't wall to wall racist with stuff like this?



The bad victim narrative alive and well

 

[Scotland]

Well I think we've found the hill Gralin has decided to die on.

 

[Scotland]

Well a lot people on here seem to be comfortable with police brutality and racism but everyone seems a stretch

Would you describe the people disagreeing with you ITT as typically 'comfortable with police brutality and racism'?

 

[perthblue]

No?
Why not?

Because besides one guy being white and the other guy being black, there is nothing pointing towards a racially motivated act of violence.

 

[the_interloper]

Would you describe the people disagreeing with you ITT as typically 'comfortable with police brutality and racism'?

It’s a good way for people of his political persuasion to rebut any opposing arguments without actually having to discuss the points presented

 

[Billy ray]

Mould