Tim Kelly - Requests Trade to West Coast

[upthecoasters]

... Facebook is worse

Some idiot Geelong supporter on Facebook reckons Shuey or Gaff for Kelly

 

[ziad]

Next they will want home finals in the suburbs

 

[Abed]

How are we getting 13?

 

[guero]

Our draft picks in the 20-30 range in the past ~10 years...that is not the best strike rate overall.

At the end of 2009 we took Weedon and Stevens with picks 22 and 23. Would I trade Weedon and Stevens for Tim Kelly?

Yes, yes I would.

A lot has changed in the last 10 years though. I don't really get why people bring up old draft failures to make a point about what the club should do now.

Last year, with a shiny new list manager, we drafted O Allen, Ryan and Petrucelle in the 20s using the picks we stole from Gold Coast. Fair effort I reckon, covers a lot of bases.

Edit: Petch at 38, not in the 20s.

 

[Obeanie1]

How are we getting 13?

Trading with Swans.

 

[AndysAngels]

A lot has changed in the last 10 years though. I don't really get why people bring up old draft failures to make a point about what the club should do now.

Last year, with a shiny new list manager, we drafted O Allen, Ryan and Petrucelle in the 20s using the picks we stole from Gold Coast. Fair effort I reckon, covers a lot of bases.

Conversely, it's also a bit weird to dismiss 10 years of history and statistics on the basis of one draft crop which is yet to even prove itself. I'm similarly bullish on last year's draft, but to ignore poor drafts and promote good ones is obviously illogical. I don't think drafting has had this incredible change over just a few years where every pick in the 20s is amazing now.



2015 crop (perhaps the most recent we can start to make assertions about); plenty of average players in that bunch

 

[Candiru]

Is Kelly definitely preferable to just using pick 13 (assuming we can get it from the Swans)? I want Kelly but pick 13 is pretty juicy too.

 

[Falco]

Conversely, it's also a bit weird to dismiss 10 years of history and statistics on the basis of one draft crop which is yet to even prove itself. I'm similarly bullish on last year's draft, but to ignore poor drafts and promote good ones is obviously illogical. I don't think drafting has had this incredible change over just a few years where every pick in the 20s is amazing now.

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2015 crop (perhaps the most recent we can start to make assertions about); plenty of average players in that bunch

Thats 2015 draft wasnt real flash, but we got Premiership hero Tommy Cole from it , not to mention Matty Allen who could be a real find.

 

[Scotland]

Is Kelly definitely preferable to just using pick 13 (assuming we can get it from the Swans)? I want Kelly but pick 13 is pretty juicy too.

I reckon I'd rather just use 20 and 22 unless there's a specific target at 13.

 

[kerr87]

We're in our Premiership Window - Rude not to get a player who will immediately make us even better.

Tim Kelly is a must if available. I wouldn't trade away both Pick 20 + 22 just to get him. Only one of those picks or our First in 2019.

Tim Kelly and Gaff on the wings. It's a dream come true!

C: Kelly Yeo Gaff = SEX

 

[Tugga27]

Is Kelly really worth a top-10 pick?

Ben Broad
GEELONG great Jimmy Bartel has tempered his former club's expectations over what it might receive should star first-year midfielder Tim Kelly leave for WA.

Kelly is seeking a trade back home, his manager saying he will only join West Coast.
Speaking on Tuesday, Bartel said he believed Kelly was worthy of a first-round pick but not necessarily inside the top 10 – as the Cats have stated.
"He's not an All-Australian," Bartel said.
"He was surrounded by a fantastic midfield at Geelong. I keep backing over it, he had a fantastic year but West Coast or Freo – whoever it may be – that will be their counter argument."
Bartel said he was being "really picky" but told Trade Radio he thought there were areas Kelly needed to improve.
"I thought he was absolutely fantastic (but) I think he can tidy up still a little bit of his field kicking," he said.
"I think, under pressure at times, it escaped him. I saw in different games throughout the year. His defensive transition (could also improve), if he can get back to half-back and join in that way (it'd improve him) because he's unbelievably explosive going forward.
"Again, he's a very good player that you're getting but I think (a pick) between 10 and 20 is appropriate."

 

[Chad in Vegas]

Is Kelly really worth a top-10 pick?

Ben Broad
GEELONG great Jimmy Bartel has tempered his former club's expectations over what it might receive should star first-year midfielder Tim Kelly leave for WA.

Kelly is seeking a trade back home, his manager saying he will only join West Coast.
Speaking on Tuesday, Bartel said he believed Kelly was worthy of a first-round pick but not necessarily inside the top 10 – as the Cats have stated.
"He's not an All-Australian," Bartel said.
"He was surrounded by a fantastic midfield at Geelong. I keep backing over it, he had a fantastic year but West Coast or Freo – whoever it may be – that will be their counter argument."
Bartel said he was being "really picky" but told Trade Radio he thought there were areas Kelly needed to improve.
"I thought he was absolutely fantastic (but) I think he can tidy up still a little bit of his field kicking," he said.
"I think, under pressure at times, it escaped him. I saw in different games throughout the year. His defensive transition (could also improve), if he can get back to half-back and join in that way (it'd improve him) because he's unbelievably explosive going forward.
"Again, he's a very good player that you're getting but I think (a pick) between 10 and 20 is appropriate."

I knew there was a reason I never hated Bartel, the man speaks some sense.

 

[Karim Abdul Yeo]

Who gives a toss if cats ask for top 10. We are premiers, we don't need to be desperate specially with Gaff staying. Kelly is coming to Eagles either next year or the year after. Give them 20 plus compo for Kelly and dengerfield.

 

[Smeg Head]

I reckon I'd rather just use 20 and 22 unless there's a specific target at 13.

13 gives you a really good chance to nab someone who slides.

 

[Scotland]

13 gives you a really good chance to nab someone who slides.

Last year we got Brander at 13, Allen at 21, Ryan at 24.

How many picks will we take? It could also be 13, 40, 68 or 20, 22, 40.

 

[illegaleagle]

can you imagine a more dynamic midfield trio than Kelly, Shuey and Yeo

 

[squashface]

can you imagine a more dynamic midfield trio than Kelly, Shuey and Yeo

Cousins, Judd, Kerr

 

[FatPizza]

can you imagine a more dynamic midfield trio than Kelly, Shuey and Yeo

Cousins, Judd and Kerr?

Edit: Bah, beaten...

 

[illegaleagle]

Cousins, Judd, Kerr

currently I mean. With the added grunt of Redden, tagging abilities of Hutchings and outside run of Gaff. With our forward line and defence being almost leagues best. We are gonna be a tough team to stop next year.

 

[southjoy]

Can someone please remind me what we got for a club champion. Scott Selwood

 

[squashface]

Can someone please remind me what we got for a club champion. Scott Selwood

Him off our list

 

[Candiru]

We're in our Premiership Window - Rude not to get a player who will immediately make us even better.

Tim Kelly is a must if available. I wouldn't trade away both Pick 20 + 22 just to get him. Only one of those picks or our First in 2019.

That's unlikely to cut it.

 

[dajesmac]

Wow, I am really looking forward to the end of trade period.

 

[FKASC]

Kerr, Cousins, Judd

 

[FKASC]

Wow, I am really looking forward to the end of trade period.

It’s literally the worst part of the year