Time to ban live export once and for all

[Admiral Byng]

Another black day for this horrible industry.

40+ human lives appear to have been lost and 5,000 odd head of cattle which from what I have been able to find, appear to have been pregnant dairy cows.

They were sailing from NZ to Japan. Nothing to do with us.

Ships go down in storms, even in the present day. Doesn't happen quite so often but it still happens. I feel sorry for all the poor Filipinos who crew these ships under minimal pay and conditions on Flag of Convenience ships. Reports are one of the ships engines broken down in rough seas, it had trouble maneuvering and was capsized by a large wave. This could have happened to any ship, container ship, car transporter... whatever. It is sad for the cattle involved but it is just a coincidence that it was a cattle ship involved in this incident.

 

[Kwality]

They were sailing from NZ to Japan. Nothing to do with us.

Ships go down in storms, even in the present day. Doesn't happen quite so often but it still happens. I feel sorry for all the poor Filipinos who crew these ships under minimal pay and conditions on Flag of Convenience ships. Reports are one of the ships engines broken down in rough seas, it had trouble maneuvering and was capsized by a large wave. This could have happened to any ship, container ship, car transporter... whatever. It is sad for the cattle involved but it is just a coincidence that it was a cattle ship involved in this incident.

A shocker by any measure - not anti live cattle per se, but they were breeders. Couple of Aussies & Kiwisalso lost their lives.

Mt Isa community in shock 'outgoing and gifted' vet was on board missing ship

Mt Isa residents say Lukas Orda, one of two Australians believed to be on board the Gulf Livestock 1 which Japanese authorities suspect has sunk, was a "good, solid citizen" of the community.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Admiral Byng]

A shocker by any measure - not anti live cattle per se, but they were breeders. Couple of Aussies & Kiwisalso lost their lives.

Mt Isa community in shock 'outgoing and gifted' vet was on board missing ship

Mt Isa residents say Lukas Orda, one of two Australians believed to be on board the Gulf Livestock 1 which Japanese authorities suspect has sunk, was a "good, solid citizen" of the community.

www.abc.net.au

I'm not saying it was nothing, but it is not related to the cruel sea trade between Australia and the Gulf states for meat animals. But how else do you move 5000 head of dairy cattle from one country to the next if not by ship? There is nothing to suggest that this ship was treating the cattle poorly before the ship went down. If they were valuable dairy cow breeding stock every effort would have been made to make them as comfortable as possible.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I'm not saying it was nothing, but it is not related to the cruel sea trade between Australia and the Gulf states for meat animals. But how else do you move 5000 head of dairy cattle from one country to the next if not by ship? There is nothing to suggest that this ship was treating the cattle poorly before the ship went down. If they were valuable dairy cow breeding stock every effort would have been made to make them as comfortable as possible.

more importantly , these cows would be looked after. i remember my uncle used to say "a happy cow is a productive cow" because if you treated your cattle like shit, their milk production would plummet

these are stock for building dairy herds, and their value, and that of future purchases, would be tied directly to how productive they are at destination.

unlike the sheep for the ME (which are destined for the blade), these buyers want long lives out of these cattle, and that means making sure they are looked after and healthy during transportation

 

[Power Raid]

Transporting dairy cows can't be included in the discussion of live cattle trade for slaughter

How else are they supposed to be transported?