Play Nice Tippett Nominates Sydney - Part II

[SBD Gonzalez]

A medal is being made for you as we speak.

Not sure I deserve it, but gee, thanks.

 

[Fluro Boots]

Crimson you're of course correct, it couldn't possibly be draft tampering yet.

But I do feel Tippett is really pushing the rules. It is pretty widely accepted that if he did get sent to the PSD he would still end up at Sydeny as his management has made it pretty clear he has no interest in going to any other club. I don't see this as being too different to guys like Pyman/McKay/Chambers who wrote to clubs telling them not to draft them. They were sanctioned by the AFL.

Sydney have nothing to lose, good luck to them. In theory they could offer their final pick in the draft to Adelaide but it's only common decency and good PR that prevents this. They are only doing what most, if not all clubs would do if faced the same situation. Tippett on the other hand is behaving like a petulant child who seems to think he's a free agent. I wonder if would spare $80 of his fortune to refund my little nephew who saved his birthday money to buy a Crows jumper with his number on it?

I know we're not the first club this has happened to and, unless the AFL tighten the rules, won't be the last.

I don't see it as pushing the rules at all. He's not free to sign with the club of his choosing but he is free to refuse to sign off on a trade if he doesn't want to go. Adelaide are just unlucky that he wants to go to the premiers. If the reports are true that pick 8 was on the table for him last year Adelaide refused it knowing that their bargaining power would be less this year. They went close to a GF appearance, missed out but are now a bit worse off for a trade. You win some, lose others, time to move on.

Edit: This is probably a case that provides a strong argument for allowing the trading of future draft picks. It would give both clubs more currency to be able to even out the trade. Sydney could include next years 2nd rounder or clubs could take a punt on a swap of first or 2nd rounders etc.

 

[MrPresident]

Is it too optimistic to hope this saga is finished tomorrow?

 

[MaccasNeighbour]

I don't see it as pushing the rules at all. He's not free to sign with the club of his choosing but he is free to refuse to sign off on a trade if he doesn't want to go.

I know what you're saying but if he's made it clear he won't go anywhere but Sydney then Adelaide have no choice but to accept whatever Sydney put on the table. If we let him go to the draft then only Sydney will pick him up. Although he's technically probably not breaking any rules he is holding the AFC to ransom. Our only choice is to re-draft him out of spite.

 

[MaccasNeighbour]

Is it too optimistic to hope this saga is finished tomorrow?

For Adelaide's sake I hope it doesn't.

 

[Fluro Boots]

I know what you're saying but if he's made it clear he won't go anywhere but Sydney then Adelaide have no choice but to accept whatever Sydney put on the table. If we let him go to the draft then only Sydney will pick him up. Although he's technically probably not breaking any rules he is holding the AFC to ransom. Our only choice is to re-draft him out of spite.

Yeah i get that it's not ideal from the AFC perspective but given your lack of options pick 22 is pretty good. I can't see how the rules could be changed to make it fairer. You drafted him at 32 get 5 or 6 years service then get 22 + change on the way out. It could be a lot worse.

 

[MaccasNeighbour]

Yeah i get that it's not ideal from the AFC perspective but given your lack of options pick 22 is pretty good. I can't see how the rules could be changed to make it fairer. You drafted him at 32 get 5 or 6 years service then get 22 + change on the way out. It could be a lot worse.

Yes like I said earlier, Sydney could offer pick 80 if they wanted and the situation would be the same. I don't know what the solution is either but the current system is broken when a player can hold a club to ransom like that. Perhaps they must be required to nominate a minimum of 3 clubs?

 

[mattymac]

Who's paying Tippett 1m?

Denial is not a river in Egypt

 

[Wright Away]

Pick 22 is dog shit. It is dog shit that someone has wiped all over a fat man and put in a week old mcdonalds cheese burger. It is not "pretty good" just because the Crows are getting shafted does not mean that shit by any other name is not shit.

And it will not be pick 22 after Free agency concessions.

 

[.Shotties.]

Denial is not a river in Egypt

Attaboy. Anything bar speculation?

 

[MrPresident]

Denial is not a river in Egypt

Noone is paying Tippett 1m

 

[Bollox]

...and still the whinging continues.
"we're being dudded"
"sydney arnt offering fair"

Short memories.

Whilst you bunch of sooks have a cry about a player wanting to leave and thinking you arnt getting "fair" in return...more than fair already arrived for you only last season.

Our first round draft pick and prospective KPF Lewis Johnston...a guy that cost us a 1st round pick, named AA CHF in the U18 team a few years ago...asked to go home and Sydney did more than accommodate him without fuss and without asking for much in return.
There was no trying to screw a few rungs up the draft ladder, no trying to wrangle anything out of Adelaide that they didnt want to part with...just help him go home coz thats what he wanted.

For a 1st rnd KPF pick with his training wheels just coming off, we settled for a pick 60ish in return that Adelaide really didnt care too much about anyway.

When you open the other eye and stop complaining you'll realise that Sydney have been rather generous of late and perhaps, just perhaps the AFC know this, and the guys that matter from both clubs dont have such short memories.

You already got your more than fair and generous just last year...a no fuss bargain basement exchange you were pretty chuffed about.

What goes around comes around.
Didnt see Sydney acting like someone stole our lollipops.

 

[Wright Away]

Yeah a guy who played 2 games is totally the same as an experienced FWD/Ruck

 

[Magma]

might want to check your facts on that

we gave 35, 68 & armstrong for johnston. but nice try.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

So essentially a 2nd rounder and a player who was borderline best 22.

 

[chazwazza]

And to add to that, Adelaide happily helped Maric and Knights head back to Melbs with no fuss. Everyone is happy!
If Sydney supporters can't see the issue here then it's not because of the facts.

 

[Magma]

for a player who played a monumental 2 games for your club and has added an incredible 1 more for us. yeah what a huge loss.

 

[Footy Karma]

Geez, Jesse White and pick 22 (likely 23). Huge win for the Swans.

 

[ltdamn]

Here are a just a few comments from only the first page of responses to the trade from Bigfooty Adelaide sooks regarding the LJ "bargain".

Yeah no need to thank Sydney for being good mates of the Adelaide FC. Just be grateful Tippett didnt decide he wanted to go to some other club that dont have such a good relationship and history of fair trading with the AFC...knowing the situation they wouldnt give a rats arse about "fair"

...and still the whinging continues.
"we're being dudded"
"sydney arnt offering fair"

Short memories.

Whilst you bunch of sooks have a cry about a player wanting to leave and thinking you arnt getting "fair" in return...more than fair already arrived for you only last season.

Our first round draft pick and prospective KPF Lewis Johnston...a guy that cost us a 1st round pick, named AA CHF in the U18 team a few years ago...asked to go home and Sydney did more than accommodate him without fuss and without asking for much in return.
There was no trying to screw a few rungs up the draft ladder, no trying to wrangle anything out of Adelaide that they didnt want to part with...just help him go home coz thats what he wanted.

For a 1st rnd KPF pick with his training wheels just coming off, we settled for a pick 60ish in return that Adelaide really didnt care too much about anyway.

When you open the other eye and stop complaining you'll realise that Sydney have been rather generous of late and perhaps, just perhaps the AFC know this, and the guys that matter from both clubs dont have such short memories.

You already got your more than fair and generous just last year...a no fuss bargain basement exchange you were pretty chuffed about.

What goes around comes around.
Didnt see Sydney acting like someone stole our lollipops.

You traded out LJ because he didn't fit into your infamous and inflexible 'culture', but only after you'd spent the year in Armstrong and Walker's ears telling them to come to Sydney and be anonymous. And we gave you Armstrong, 35, and 68 in the deal.

Now you've thrown the culture out the window by trading for the biggest mirror-polisher in the game and everyone can see that your 'fair trader' reputation is a complete smoke-screen, and your club is only good at poaching. What did you give St. Kilda for Tommy Walsh last year by the way, if you are so fair and measured as traders?

You traded the two picks we gave you for Johnston to steal a player from under another clubs nose. Without us playing our part - FAIRLY - in a deal that you orchestrated by tapping up our player, you wouldn't have been able to go and steal someone else's lollipops.

 

[Bollox]

Just a couple from the second page of their responses to remind Adelaide fans of how Sydney screw them so bad.

Johnston schtupped Horse's missus, only explanation for Sydney letting him go so easily

Armstrong has zero value.
Noble is a witch doctor or something?!

Apart from Johnston schtupping Longmire's wife, this is the only explanation.

Level of excitement is through the roof, I mean ... seriously ... how did we, holy shit ...

I'm proud, club.

Holy shit. I don't know what the **** is in the water at AFC HQ but i like what it's doing

You do also realise that Sydney had just re-signed Johnston.

Poor Lewis wasnt happy when Adelaide passed him over with pick 10...their choice. BUT he got what he wanted eventually.

Always noce to invest 2-3 yrs into a kid that should take 4-5 to develop...only for him to want to go home to mummy.

Whinge factor seems a tad low when someone does Adelaide a favour. Funny that.

 

[applejackell]

Good idea with the title tag.

 

[swansfan51]

Nice work Bollox. It keeps going and going in that thread too, all about how Noble had committed robbery and Adelaide were laughing all the way to the bank. Lots of mentions of how Armstrong was going to be delisted as well

 

[.Shotties.]

You traded out LJ because he didn't fit into your infamous and inflexible 'culture.

That would explain why Sydney had just re-signed him for two years before Adelaide spent all of trade week needling for him.

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Nice work Bollox. It keeps going and going in that thread too, all about how Noble had committed robbery and Adelaide were laughing all the way to the bank. Lots of mentions of how Armstrong was going to be delisted as well

And that's with Johnston contracted. We probably would've been lucky to get a 4th round pick if he wasn't.

 

[swansfan51]

And that's with Johnston contracted. We probably would've been lucky to get a 4th round pick if he wasn't.

Did we have 700+ pages on how our club was being bent over?