Recommitted Tom Barrass [OOC 2027]

[Ticky009]

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[freo_leo29]

Should trade him if offered a 1st rd pick

something inside 13 I'd say

you don't sell him unless you're getting a good deal

 

[kaiserchief13]

something inside 13 I'd say

you don't sell him unless you're getting a good deal

I'd take pick 18 tbh, but the higher pick the better I guess

 

[Brian McGee]

I'd take pick 18 tbh, but the higher pick the better I guess

I imagine if this was actually a realistic possibility port would have their future first rounder on the table before you picked up the phone.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Would have thought the Bulldogs would be another interested party, Jones and Keath whilst solid, are no spring chickens.

 

[Tugga27]

I'd take pick 18 tbh, but the higher pick the better I guess

LOL
Pick 18.

You continue not to disappoint.

 

[Callipygian]

Should trade him if offered a 1st rd pick

There's a big difference between pick 2 and pick 18. I think Barrass is worth a top 10 pick, even at 28 (which he will be by the time he is traded). And you could maybe do better than pick 10 by offering to pay some of his salary - you should have some cap space, no?

Is he in the Eagles leadership group? It's important to keep some leaders around the young talent you have. Ideally that could be someone with excellent training standards and leadership but not necessarily uber talented (I'm thinking a Nick Maxwell/Tom Harley/Bernie Vince type). Who are those guys at the Eagles?

 

[kane249]

There's a big difference between pick 2 and pick 18. I think Barrass is worth a top 10 pick, even at 28 (which he will be by the time he is traded). And you could maybe do better than pick 10 by offering to pay some of his salary - you should have some cap space, no?

Is he in the Eagles leadership group? It's important to keep some leaders around the young talent you have. Ideally that could be someone with excellent training standards and leadership but not necessarily uber talented (I'm thinking a Bernie Vince type - he did wonders for the Dees rebuild). Who are those guys at the Eagles?

Barrass is vice-captain

 

[Bald]

Would have thought the Bulldogs would be another interested party, Jones and Keath whilst solid, are no spring chickens.

Jones is solid but is aging. Keath is finished, Bruce is a forward, Gardner is VFL standard and O'Brien I'm not sure is even that.

We have two first round picks in the mid-late range, if we're not into Barrass up to our eyeballs I genuinely would be flabbergasted.

 

[ArdentEagle]

if we're not into Barrass up to our eyeballs

 

[rye]

I think he's the type of player it's not a bad thing if he leaves. Hill leaving was good for us, we completely wasted the Neale capital but he wasnt going to be the same level of player by the time we were truly competing.

27 is an age where he has a lot of value to a club but he's not going to be a great player when WC come out of their rebuild. As contracted, turning him into a pick between 10 and 15 will help move the rebuild along

much easier to replace hill than it would be to replace barass

barass's impact on the result of games would also be much greater - when he is missing wce generally get blown off the park and their defence looks atrocious (playing the likes of witherden and yeo as key defenders....)

trading him would expose the kids to even more demoralising blow outs and it would take a significant length of time before a drafted kpd would be up to the job

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

much easier to replace hill than it would be to replace barass

barass's impact on the result of games would also be much greater - when he is missing wce generally get blown off the park and their defence looks atrocious (playing the likes of witherden and yeo as key defenders....)

trading him would expose the kids to even more demoralising blow outs and it would take a significant length of time before a drafted kpd would be up to the job

Fair call but they appear to have chosen the experience defender they want to keep around in McGovern by re-signing him for a few years. Can lose one of them and so long as the other one stays on the park it will be ok

 

[rye]

Fair call but they appear to have chosen the experience defender they want to keep around in McGovern by re-signing him for a few years. Can lose one of them and so long as the other one stays on the park it will be ok

i thought i heard mcgovern had signed on for 2 more years but cant seem to find anything to back that up

hes probably cooked anyway, has not got anywhere near playing a full season since 2019

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

i thought i heard mcgovern had signed on for 2 more years but cant seem to find anything to back that up

hes probably cooked anyway, has not got anywhere near playing a full season since 2019

Yeah he seems to have signed but WC wont release it officially for some reason.

Maybe he is cooked (though he looks in ripping nick) but if they've given him two years maybe they think differently. One general down there should be enough for a rebuild - even if it's only 50% of a season

 

[Freomaniac]

Depends on how the West coast is shaping up....

The bloke is 27 years old. I think the eagles will play finals again while he is on the list. But Tom Barass will be 30-32 years old when they do.

McGovern is another experiened tall defender out of contract too.

 

[theasian]

Will Sydney's 1st round pick (Probably in the 3-6 range) for Tom Barass , WC's 2nd Round Pick & Future 2nd be a reasonable offer.

With such an early pick, WC can surely draft Curtin.

 

[kane249]

Will Sydney's 1st round pick (Probably in the 3-6 range) for Tom Barass , WC's 2nd Round Pick & Future 2nd be a reasonable offer.

With such an early pick, WC can surely draft Curtin.

West Coast giving up too much in that scenario.

Lose this year's second rounder from the equation would make it closer to the mark

 

[Free Agent]

The West Australian is reporting that the Eagles have a fight to keep him at the club despite being contracted through 2027.

He's a WA boy so there's no go home factor, starting price would surely involve a 1st rounder. Maybe the Bulldogs?

There's no fight at all from us haha

We have him contracted till 2027.
Funny how the media puts a spin the other way. The West Australian reporting this is a joke. Absolutely ridiculous to suggest it as Eagles have a fight to keep him. Barrass is contracted to us till 2027. You want him you will have to pay up and not just a little. You will have to pay up big time. His our future captain and the only way we are negotiating trading Barrass is by some solid offers.
I'm talking about at least two top draft picks at a minimum. One will not get it done.

Also we actually want him as he is groomed to be our next Captain .
Wont even entertain this idea unless something comes Eagles way that's too good to refuse. The only fight in this will have to be the club's that are chasing him.

 

[Obeanie1]

Will Sydney's 1st round pick (Probably in the 3-6 range) for Tom Barass , WC's 2nd Round Pick & Future 2nd be a reasonable offer.

With such an early pick, WC can surely draft Curtin.

So Barrass plus 2 x pick 19s 2023 and 2024

For pick 5?

So turn three players into one.

That wouldn't be smart considering the Eagles are in a rebuild.

Curtin likely won't need a top 5 pick if we wanted him

 

[theasian]

West Coast giving up too much in that scenario.

Lose this year's second rounder from the equation would make it closer to the mark

That's what i thought too. But surely that should be a starting point for negotiations and WCE will say we can give 1 2nd Rounder Back but not both.

Thing is Barass is not worth a top 6 pick, more like a pick in the 6-14 range.

So Sydney will be looking for something back for giving up such a high 1st round pick.

 

[illegaleagle]

That's what i thought too. But surely that should be a starting point for negotiations and WCE will say we can give 1 2nd Rounder Back but not both.

Thing is Barass is not worth a top 6 pick, more like a pick in the 6-14 range.

So Sydney will be looking for something back for giving up such a high 1st round pick.

He is worth a pick 6 or so if eagles pay say 300k of his salary for the next few years

 

[Hawks_4478]

I'd take pick 18 tbh, but the higher pick the better I guess

Lol he’s worth a lot more than that.

Were you the eagles bloke who did the Tim Kelly trade??

 

[theasian]

He is worth a pick 6 or so if eagles pay say 300k of his salary for the next few years

Then it certainly is a different ball game.

 

[The_Reaper]

Contracted until 2027 and while we need to rebuild, you still need a foundation to build on. Do not sell unless we get offered significantly over his value

 

[The 747]

Barrass is vice-captain

That harms rather than helps his value.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Would be surprised if the eagles get an offer which they would think is worth letting him go for while contracted.

Turns 28 this year so likely only has 3 or so years left at his peak. Any club spending high first rounders on a potential 3-4 year player unless they are Gary Ablett level is just poor management. If he was 25/6 and had an extra couple years, no problem but at nearly 28, even with our deficiencies I wouldn’t want port parting with a top 10ish pick for him if we had one.