EFASo you can use the extra first rounder to recruit Tobie Travaglia.
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EFASo you can use the extra first rounder to recruit Tobie Travaglia.
Ahaaaah… you just said it, several rebuilding years ahead. You’ll be blooding other young players at the same time, so you can afford to give DGB the time to prove his worth. He’s only 22 and played 28 games. This year he missed more than half the season with the toe issue and then couldn’t break back into our senior team. Take Tom Barrass out and DGB would be in the top 7-8 defenders on your list. With our recent recruiting, right now, he’s about 11th-12th best on ours. He may well see team success with you guys, at least he’d be a better chance than Barrass, no?It isn't a matter of not valuing him, but with several rebuilding years ahead he is likely not going to see team success with us. It’s a mutually beneficial move. You've failed at moulding DGB into being an AFL standard player so why would we have any interest.
top 7-8 key position defenders on the list maybeAhaaaah… you just said it, several rebuilding years ahead. You’ll be blooding other young players at the same time, so you can afford to give DGB the time to prove his worth. He’s only 22 and played 28 games. This year he missed more than half the season with the toe issue and then couldn’t break back into our senior team. Take Tom Barrass out and DGB would be in the top 7-8 defenders on your list. With our recent recruiting, right now, he’s about 11th-12th best on ours. He may well see team success with you guys, at least he’d be a better chance than Barrass, no?
Hawks are expecting this year and next years first rounders to start at 18 so no real difference.Anyone actually realise that Hawthorn would want to trade future picks moreso then current ones?
Eagles best move would be to do the below
Hawks F1st + F2nd + pick 30 for Barrass + future 3rd rounder + future 4th rounder
So Hawks can keep what they would hope is a higher first round draft pick this year (planning to be top 4 next year) and Eagles can achieve a bit of overs by having some patience and letting Hawks keep the first this year which benefits them
That's pretty good value for a bloke with Tom's credentials. AA caliber for his position, B&F winner, Vice-Captain, Premiership player. Hawks will get 3 to 4 good years out of him and I wish him the best.
I can see this becoming a 3 way between Eagles/Richmond/Hawks if Baker selects eagles
Hawks
Out: #14 +F1
In:Barrass + #29
Tigers
Out : Baker + #29
In: F1 (hawks) + F3 (eagles)
Eagles
Out : Barrass + F3
In: #14+ Baker
Yes, as he's made the squad before.Really.
Looks pretty bad, we aren’t parting with two firstsThis is actually not too bad. Yes I'm suprised given some of your other posts
Not sure how Tigers and Hawks fans feel but looks pretty good all round to me
Im always realistic its just that im so easily misunderstoodThis is actually not too bad. Yes I'm suprised given some of your other posts
Not sure how Tigers and Hawks fans feel but looks pretty good all round to me
Exactly.. Look at the value given to other players..Looks pretty bad, we aren’t parting with two firsts
Life will be so much easier with these trades if the Hawks just lose this weekExactly.. Look at the value given to other players..
24 yr old Lukosius is being rated around pick 15 at best while Crows want him early 20's
Bolton around pick 10
Eagles want Baker for cheapies
But Barrass for big overs.
Hawks should start talks with 2 seconds if talks are still to be had.
If value is already decided btw both clubs, say pick 15, if we finish higher, then we add something to mix.
If we finish lower, then eagles add something.
Basically values 24yr Lukosius and 29yr old Barrass on same level which is astounding but Hawks may swallow it since we are NOT petty like few other clubs trying to WIN trade period.
Looks pretty bad, we aren’t parting with two firsts
Just replying to the comment saying how it looked for them and unsure from other fans perspective, i gave mine.Well you can take that up with the Tigers supportes that suggested it I guess
Barrass is a better player than Lukosius, and hes not being head-hunted like BarrassExactly.. Look at the value given to other players..
24 yr old Lukosius is being rated around pick 15 at best while Crows want him early 20's
Boltons value sounds like 9+17 or 9+10 depending who you askBolton around pick 10
We dont have the ability to pay more, we arent pushing for finals with a nearly finished listEagles want Baker for cheapies
If thats what the clubs have decided then sure, I doubt thats the caseBut Barrass for big overs.
Hawks should start talks with 2 seconds if talks are still to be had.
If value is already decided btw both clubs, say pick 15, if we finish higher, then we add something to mix.
Barrass should fetch more than Lukosius. Luko doesnt have a position and you could count the amount of good games hes played in his career on 1 hand.If we finish lower, then eagles add something.
Basically values 24yr Lukosius and 29yr old Barrass on same level which is astounding but Hawks may swallow it since we are NOT petty like few other clubs trying to WIN trade period.
Neither of those players hold a candle to an AA calibre key position player. For starters, the position is in hot demand all over the league, and one of the best ones just became available.Exactly.. Look at the value given to other players..
24 yr old Lukosius is being rated around pick 15 at best while Crows want him early 20's
Bolton around pick 10
Eagles want Baker for cheapies
But Barrass for big overs.
Hawks should start talks with 2 seconds if talks are still to be had.
If value is already decided btw both clubs, say pick 15, if we finish higher, then we add something to mix.
If we finish lower, then eagles add something.
Basically values 24yr Lukosius and 29yr old Barrass on same level which is astounding but Hawks may swallow it since we are NOT petty like few other clubs trying to WIN trade period.
No one wants him give it a rest lolAhaaaah… you just said it, several rebuilding years ahead. You’ll be blooding other young players at the same time, so you can afford to give DGB the time to prove his worth. He’s only 22 and played 28 games.
This is just stupid, I am not one adding him to trades but it’s just dumb. No one here knows if West Coast have any interest or not. Either way he either doesn’t go or he would be very minimal steak knives.Hawks fans need to get their heads around the concept, that adding DGB to the trade, actually devalues the offers rather than increasing its attractiveness.
Spot on, it's bizarre, a bit like getting Broky last year and some of them wanting a higher pic given because they'd added DGB to the scenario.Hawks fans need to get their heads around the concept, that adding DGB to the trade, actually devalues the offers rather than increasing its attractiveness.
This is just stupid, I am not one adding him to trades but it’s just dumb. No one here knows if West Coast have any interest or not. Either way he either doesn’t go or he would be very minimal steak knives.
Yeah, really.Really.
Give 29 to Eagles and the Eagles give 21 to HawksThis is actually not too bad. Yes I'm suprised given some of your other posts
Not sure how Tigers and Hawks fans feel but looks pretty good all round to me