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Easy.
None of those players you mentioned are Key Postion.
Key position players don’t grow on trees, and good ones are worth their weight in gold.
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Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027] - Reportedly headed to Hawthorn
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None of those players you mentioned are Key Postion.
Key position players don’t grow on trees, and good ones are worth their weight in gold.
West coast value Barrass higher than what Hawthorn decided to offer. It's as simple as that.
Champing someone because you’re unable to properly articulate is hilarious
You said the state of the draft, clearly insinuating and stating in another post how many academies and how weak the 2025 draft was. Which I said is silly because you can’t say it 12 months out.
Carlton traded in for a better chance to get Houston, bettering their position.
The deal will get done, and it will be less than West Coast fans here are expecting. End of story.
Yep. Only the hawks people are pros.
Let’s hope he doesn’t end up in high court like other pros.
Yes but thats the case this year, it’s often the case each year with the current rules. With new rules coming next year it will better even the relative value of the pick. However the pick position doesn’t change, hence why Hawthorn trading their first out for a similar one in 2025 including adding a second, is superb trading.
Most were expecting a 1st and second and we're fine with that. Hawks wanted to get a 3rd back, which would be close to our second, so pointless for WCE.
Looks like Hawthorn have either traded out of spite, or are working on something else to satisfy WCE.
We just have to wait to see what it is.
Contracted player. WCE don't have to accept a trade at all.
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West Coast got greedy hearing what Richmond are going to collect for their leaving players.
Now West Coast can take F1 + F2 (which is overs), or they can keep their disgruntled player, whilst also robbing their list of another young talent it so desperately needs, with Tasmania looming.
West Coast have valued keeping TB higher than rebuilding, which at this stage of their list situation seems a tad risky.
Hawthorn will be only giving up what was Pick 14 of value for them plus maybe change of a 3rd/4th. Which is a great deal, that will look like a future first, future second and maybe some change but maybe not.
This will be less than West Coast fans expected and wanted whilst it’s enough.
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I don't think I made that comment at all about only Hawthorn staff being pros.
Weird comment. You've had some real doozies this arvo. Have a bex and a nap gramps.
Wrong.
West Coast value Barrass higher than what Hawthorn were offering.
Pyke said as much on the radio a few weeks ago.
Clearly it's not enough because WCE didn't do the trade
There is meant to be more first round academy and f/s kids. Next years draft is 100% a worse draft, if for no other reason than the bs academy kids.
The matching doesnt really affect the first round
Not really. You brought up about being pro. I just continued on.
Looks like Sydney and dogs are chasing gc pick 13. Two clubs that were into barrass before Sam convinced him not to go there. Are they going to be back in I wonder?
For a while some people in the media were speculating about West Coast getting two firsts for Barrass. This was pure speculation and never based on any fact or precedence, but Eagles fans got their hopes up and convinced themselves it was reality. It never was.
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I said Mark McKenzie is a pro. I'm not sure how you can extrapolate that information to "Only the hawk people are pros".
It's a bit weird how you are jumping at shadows.
As I said before, have a bex and a lie down.
The deal will get done. We wouldn't have randomly made a trade without any purpose. McKenzie is a very good operator (and let me make this absolutely clear to you, just because I say McKenzie is a very good operator DOESN'T mean other list managers aren't good operators or only Hawthorn list management staff are good operators) and he will get creative to find something that satisfies both parties.
This may come as a big surprise to you but clubs don't base their list management strategy off what plebs in the media say.
It's the other way around.
Thank you for that incredibly insightful scoop.
Now go and tell the West Coast fans. You know, the people I was referring to.
Most people said 1st and 2nd was what we were expecting.
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I think most eagles fans said two firsts with our f2 back or a first and second, which still looks to be the likely trade. I wouldn’t count your chickens.
Look at your post, and you are accusing me at jumping at shadows.
Yes, we need future 1st for 2025 Warner attack. We all know this was planned. Reckon Richmond will be satisfied with downgrade of 3 for 6, baker and something else. This way we have that extra first for Warner, which freo don’t have.
Now back to slug fest. You guys wooed him so pay up.
There.
Yes, the narrative changed as common sense slowly began to filter through. But that was still "people". As in randoms, like us Not the AFL list managers.
We all have different views and that is what this forum is for. Personally, I thought 14 and F2 for Barrass and F3 was slightly overs but that would be OK for a contracted player. West Coast said no, and now... Who knows what will happen?
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