Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027] - Reportedly headed to Hawthorn

[Barrybran]

Nah mate, sif we pay 1st, f2 and 33. We aren't even willing to throw in f2 with 14 apparently, so no way we giving up 33 as well.

It's effectively 14 + F2 for you guys. Slight downgrade on 33 to grease the wheels.

 

[Barrybran]

Your getting desperate now

How so?

 

[kade]

It's effectively 14 + F2 for you guys. Slight downgrade on 33 to grease the wheels.

I feel like that you will be disappointed when the trade gets announced

 

[Tasmanian saint]

Roos are somewhat financially okay. Saints are the drain on the system - other than the obvious GCS and GWS who will never come close to making any money at all.

See how north go when they loose there Tasmanian money in a couple of years

 

[HeHateMe]

HAW
OUT: 14, 33, F2
IN: Barrass, 42

WCE
OUT: Barrass, F2
IN: Baker, 6

GCS
OUT: 6, 41
IN: Rioli, F2 (WCE)

FRE
OUT: 10, 18
IN: Bolton, 33

RIC
OUT: Bolton, Rioli, Baker
IN: 10, 14, 18, 41

Richmond would likely bundle extra picks for a better pick from Gold Coast than 41

I think Richmond might be able to squeeze more out of GC maybe 6 + 23 and only get F2(Haw) back. Just my prediction, also think Richmond will end up with more.

 

[HeHateMe]

The deal's already been signed off.
It's all hot air from here.

That's why we gotta get our mega trades in now

 

[HeHateMe]

Freo: Bolton, 23
GC: Rioli, F2(Haw)
Haw: Barrass
Rich: 6, 10, 14
WC: Baker, 18

 

[pantskyle]

I'm fairly certain it's 14 and F2 for Barrass.

 

[kade]

I'm fairly certain it's 14 and F2 for Barrass.

With an f3 coming back our way

 

[pantskyle]

With an f3 coming back our way

Hmmm not sure about that.

 

[kade]

This trade is all about whether the eagles want an extra first round pick or not. They need pick 14 desperately

 

[Coach_Required]

HAW
OUT: 14, 33, F2
IN: Barrass, 42

WCE
OUT: Barrass, F2
IN: Baker, 6

GCS
OUT: 6, 41
IN: Rioli, F2 (WCE)

FRE
OUT: 10, 18
IN: Bolton, 33

RIC
OUT: Bolton, Rioli, Baker
IN: 10, 14, 18, 41

Richmond would likely bundle extra picks for a better pick from Gold Coast than 41

No chance

Rumours alone Freo want to give us 10 & 18 for Bolton on its own, rumours are strong that pick 14 will be for Baker, do we give something back? maybe, but no one knows. So you're basically saying we are giving up Rioli for pick 41?

Thats horrendous

 

[Barrybran]

No chance

Rumours alone Freo want to give us 10 & 18 for Bolton on its own, rumours are strong that pick 14 will be for Baker, do we give something back? maybe, but no one knows. So you're basically saying we are giving up Rioli for pick 41?

Thats horrendous

Values are 6 for Bolton, 10 for Rioli, 25 for Baker, being the value of West Coast's F2. "Horrendous" for Richmond but more than fair. Plenty of picks across all clubs to extract more value.

 

[Barrybran]

This trade is all about whether the eagles want an extra first round pick or not. They need pick 14 desperately

We don't need pick 14. A satisfactory deal can be put together with pick 14 going elsewhere if all parties are acting in good faith.

 

[kade]

We don't need pick 14. A satisfactory deal can be put together with pick 14 going elsewhere if all parties are acting in good faith.

2 first rounders is the eagles bending the hawks over. So you want everyone to win except Hawthorn

 

[Barrybran]

2 first rounders is the eagles bending the hawks over. So you want everyone to win except Hawthorn

With our F2 going back, likely to be a 5-pick downgrade. You're not bringing in an elite KPD to get worse.

 

[pantskyle]

2 first rounders is the eagles bending the hawks over. So you want everyone to win except Hawthorn

Should Hawks be winners if they've approached a best 22 player with a long term contract? Be thankful you're not dealing with Richmond and Rioli.

Eagles are simply fair traders.

 

[The Goon]

Values are 6 for Bolton, 10 for Rioli, 25 for Baker, being the value of West Coast's F2. "Horrendous" for Richmond but more than fair. Plenty of picks across all clubs to extract more value.

By reports we've already been offered 6 for Rioli, 10 and 18 for Bolton and 14 for Baker. So by facilitating trades for other clubs benefit we are losing pick 6 in your scenario. Hard Pass.

 

[Barrybran]

By reports we've already been offered 6 for Rioli, 10 and 18 for Bolton and 14 for Baker. So by facilitating trades for other clubs benefit we are losing pick 6 in your scenario. Hard Pass.

Except you hold none of those picks and are working with three other clubs until those trades go through. It's not a one way street.

 

[pantskyle]

By reports we've already been offered 6 for Rioli, 10 and 18 for Bolton and 14 for Baker. So by facilitating trades for other clubs benefit we are losing pick 6 in your scenario. Hard Pass.

Have heard you're trading 6 and 18 for Eagles pick 3, 24 coming back in the Baker trade.

 

[The Goon]

Have heard you're trading 6 and 18 for Eagles pick 3, 24 coming back in the Baker trade.

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Which probably means it's a non starter.

 

[pantskyle]

I'd do that in a heartbeat. Which probably means it's a non starter.

Guess it depends on who Eagles are targeting in the top 10, if it's someone still likely to be at 6 plus we gain another first rounder it's a fine deal.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Should Hawks be winners if they've approached a best 22 player with a long term contract? Be thankful you're not dealing with Richmond and Rioli.

Eagles are simply fair traders.

So are the Hawks. Its why this has been done for a while and the conversations have been respectful and honest

 

[Coach_Required]

Values are 6 for Bolton, 10 for Rioli, 25 for Baker, being the value of West Coast's F2. "Horrendous" for Richmond but more than fair. Plenty of picks across all clubs to extract more value.

Sorry mate, this isn't about being more than fair.

I don't see Richmond accepting any of that and if that means talks break down on 2 of those players, then they will have to see out their contracts I feel that's how it will go.

You might not agree with pick 14 but unless it's said otherwise that is the pick Richmond are asking for Baker.

 

[The Goon]

Except you hold none of those picks and are working with three other clubs until those trades go through. It's not a one way street.

Regardless, compared to what we could get it's a bad deal, so we'd obviously not be willing.

Even taking your valuations at face value (6 for Bolton, 10 for Rioli, 25 for Baker), us ending up with 10, 14, 18, 41 is a shit deal. We'd definitely want a top 10 in there if we're losing Bolton. Just a non-starter.