Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027]

[TylerDurden]

I got a question, why is the Tom Barrass thread still “speculation” and not been changed to trade request to Hawthorn and turned green ( same as Battle)?

On point.

 

[Snoref]

You guys are going into a period where you want to attract top end talent to round out your list and go for premierships. Why do you think you can go around screwing over a genuine A-grader over the loose change in the trade?

13+F1 for Barrass+F2 is not even unreasonable lmao why would any manager or player trust you after that?

The only way you could see the F1 for F2 thing being unreasonable is if you actually genuinely expect to be a worse team next year with Barrass and Battle added along with natural progression, there is no other explanation for it. I dont think thats the case

The eagles wont be better after losing Barrass and all the senior guys being a year older, so that F2 should be close to pick 20.
Whats the cost to trade pick 20 up to 15? pick 30ish?

Come on dude get real here lmao the way you Hawks blokes talk its like youre the Geelong list manager haggling over pick 70something last year

For one, future picks are speculations see Collingwood trade with us for Ginni and how that backfired. You cope a few injuries and bad form and you could drop quite quickly, especially considering hiw close the league is.second is we are also taking a gamble on a 29 year old already that is also a risk, so risk on risk is probably not preferred.

Dealing with this year's pick we know what we have and what we are dealing with...who know WC might jump up the ladder then what?

 

[THE_GUN]

F1 next year could just as easily end up pick #12 again and the eagles 2nd rounder could end up #25
Eagles will apply for PP picks and free agent compo picks etc.

Hawks would be absolutely stupid to even consider trading the #12+F2
List managers are not that silly

Barrass for #12+ F3 is a fair price and both sides will be happy
but the eagles supporters here wont be and im afraid the eagles supporters will be devasted with just about every trade Matty Clarke does this year.

 

[Barrybran]

For one, future picks are speculations see Collingwood trade with us for Ginni and how that backfired. You cope a few injuries and bad form and you could drop quite quickly, especially considering hiw close the league is.second is we are also taking a gamble on a 29 year old already that is also a risk, so risk on risk is probably not preferred.

Dealing with this year's pick we know what we have and what we are dealing with...who know WC might jump up the ladder then what?

You're right. Future picks are a risk. We could be giving up pick 19 to get pick 18 as well.

 

[stallon]

For one, future picks are speculations see Collingwood trade with us for Ginni and how that backfired. You cope a few injuries and bad form and you could drop quite quickly, especially considering hiw close the league is.second is we are also taking a gamble on a 29 year old already that is also a risk, so risk on risk is probably not preferred.

Dealing with this year's pick we know what we have and what we are dealing with...who know WC might jump up the ladder then what?

Draft picks are also risks, everything is a risk. We could take a spud with your pick 13 and you could take a gun with our F2

 

[lordbob]

Anything is possble with draft picks, lets just make it 3 rookie picks and a future 4th then.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Eagles situation is just like O'Meara and Titch. They are vacating Barrass spot to blood Edwards lot more. They see big potential in him and he is being wasted.

Ideally I would prefer a deal similar to them but happy to swallow a lop sided deal of pick 13 with their F3 coming back at bare minimum. If we did not get Scaife, I would have asked for Ryan Maric instead of F3.

Ah no. If you think you're not paying more than your 1st pick you dont get how trading works. Barrass is a contracted gun who's been targeted by your club. He'plays at an elite level for his position and will add a ton to your team. Absolutely nothing like tich or O'Meara situation. Neither O'Meara nor Mitchell were in the top half a dozen players in their position at the time of their trades. Barrass well and truly is.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Maric is worth a hell of a lot more than a F3, I wouldnt give him up for less than pick 20ish

Im not even gonna respond to the rest of your Barrass valuation lmao

Exactly. I agree and I'm a Freo supporter.

 

[stallon]

Anything is possble with draft picks, lets just make it 3 rookie picks and a future 4th then.

What about 13+f1+f2+30?, its just draft picks after all

 

[TylerDurden]

Ah no. If you think you're not paying more than your 1st pick you dont get how trading works. Barrass is a contracted gun who's been targeted by your club. He'plays at an elite level for his position and will add a ton to your team. Absolutely nothing like tich or O'Meara situation. Neither O'Meara nor Mitchell were in the top half a dozen players in their position at the time of their trades. Barrass well and truly is.

Mitchell was coming of a Brownlow and 3 BnFs at Hawthorn. Will go down as one of our best midfielders ever, in the time he was at our club.

 

[stallon]

Mitchell was coming of a Brownlow and 3 BnFs at Hawthorn. Will go down as one of our best midfielders ever, in the time he was at our club.

What about at the time he was traded?

 

[Philhawk]

What about at the time he was traded?

He won a BnF 5 days before he was traded.

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Eagles situation is just like O'Meara and Titch. They are vacating Barrass spot to blood Edwards lot more. They see big potential in him and he is being wasted.

Ideally I would prefer a deal similar to them but happy to swallow a lop sided deal of pick 13 with their F3 coming back at bare minimum. If we did not get Scaife, I would have asked for Ryan Maric instead of F3.

lol, Maric

 

[stallon]

He won a BnF 5 days before he was traded.

He won the BnF in 2021, he was traded at the end of 2022...

He had lost a big chunk of his midfield role in 2022 too

 

[Barrybran]

He won a BnF 5 days before he was traded.

Don't get me wrong, Mitchell was a good player, but there wasn't a lot of competition that season in a 7-win team.

 

[TY24]

He won a BnF 5 days before he was traded.

Are you sure?

 

[Shueygod]

He won a BnF 5 days before he was traded.

He came 5th, only 4 players to play equal or more games that finished below him were Nash, Omeara, Morrison, and Bruest.

2022 Mitchell was absolutely nowhere near the player Barrass was this year.

 

[lordbob]

What about 13+f1+f2+30?, its just draft picks after all

Sounds good, we'll take harley reid as well, cos you know anything is possible with draft picks

 

[stallon]

Sounds good, we'll take harley reid as well, cos you know anything is possible with draft picks

Harley Reid isnt a draft pick, try again

 

[RCAB]

Ah no. If you think you're not paying more than your 1st pick you dont get how trading works. Barrass is a contracted gun who's been targeted by your club. He'plays at an elite level for his position and will add a ton to your team. Absolutely nothing like tich or O'Meara situation. Neither O'Meara nor Mitchell were in the top half a dozen players in their position at the time of their trades. Barrass well and truly is.

O'Meara was considered a potential generational talent, and before his injury was playing at a similar level to Gary Jnr at the Gold Coast.

Mitchell was the best player in 2018 season and broke the record for disposals.

I'm starting to think you're just injury trolling here.

 

[stallon]

O'Meara was considered a potential generational talent, and before his injury was playing at a similar level to Gary Jnr at the Gold Coast.

Mitchell was the best player in 2018 season and broke the record for disposals.

I'm starting to think you're just injury trolling here.

at the time of their trades.

 

[MisterMarcus]

F1 next year could just as easily end up pick #12 again and the eagles 2nd rounder could end up #25
Eagles will apply for PP picks and free agent compo picks etc.

Hawks would be absolutely stupid to even consider trading the #12+F2
List managers are not that silly

Barrass for #12+ F3 is a fair price and both sides will be happy
but the eagles supporters here wont be and im afraid the eagles supporters will be devasted with just about every trade Matty Clarke does this year.

Barrass is contracted, isn't he? Why should WCE accept unders for him because "it's too much risk for Hawthorn"?

 

[bzparkes]

O'Meara was considered a potential generational talent, and before his injury was playing at a similar level to Gary Jnr at the Gold Coast.

Mitchell was the best player in 2018 season and broke the record for disposals.

I'm starting to think you're just injury trolling here.

Lol, imagine suggesting blokes nearing 30 were worth more due to their draft write ups and form half a decade earlier

 

[TazHawk15]

There is no need to sweat a fair deal will get done, the Hawks and the WCE have a good relationship and both have a mutual ongoing beneficial interest in this good relationship.

Reid into that what you will.

 

[bzparkes]

There is no need to sweat a fair deal will get done, the Hawks and the WCE have a good relationship and both have a mutual ongoing beneficial interest in this good relationship.

Reid into that what you will.

He re-signed bud.