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Tom Hawkins best CHF of the last 25 years
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Yeah, Warren Tredrea was only All Australian CHF in 4 consecutive years (the only CHF to have a better run than that is Wayne Carey AND it should have been 5 - but voters were getting Tredrea fatigue) while winning these awards in 2004 (while being a premiership captain):
Tredrea is so ridiculously underrated on this board it's criminal. Until Buddy Franklin, he was the most dominant forward since Carey.
I will be the first to say that Buddy has now surpassed Tredrea.
But people have obviously forgotten (or never paid attention to) how goddamn good and dominant Tredrea was. I believe the common call of the time was "like a man playing amongst boys."
- AFL Coaches Association 'Champion Player of the Year' Award: 2004
- Herald Sun Player of the Year Award: 2004
- 3AW Player of the Year Award: 2004
- The Advertiser Player of the Year: Award 2004
- Triple M Player of the Year Award: 2004
- The Age Player of the Year Award: 2004
Tredrea is so ridiculously underrated on this board it's criminal. Until Buddy Franklin, he was the most dominant forward since Carey.
I will be the first to say that Buddy has now surpassed Tredrea.
But people have obviously forgotten (or never paid attention to) how goddamn good and dominant Tredrea was. I believe the common call of the time was "like a man playing amongst boys."
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I love Trederea, always have. Not just one of the greatest forwards I have seen play, but also one of the greatest players I have seen play.
list looks like mooney and brownless wrote it for him
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NO his not;- maybe the fattest byt not best
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Essendon supporters, man.
Merrett isn't a consideration because he has neither the statistics nor the accolades to get anywhere near the top ten. You've left out players who Merrett isn't fit to tie the bootlaces of.
I'd love to hear your arguments for how Merrett, Gale and Stoneham were better players than Warren Tredrea, Barry Hall or Matthew Pavlich.
Christ.
Can easily do Merrett.
Dual Premiership player 1984/1985.
Brisbane Captain 1990-1996
Victorian State Of Origin Captain 1985.
Queensland State Team Captain 1991.
313 games and 433 goals.
VFL Reserves Best and Fairest (Gardiner Medal 1982)
Topped Brisbane's goalkicking 3 years running 1993-1995
Perhaps you do have a point about both Gale and Stoneham, but, both were more than handy.
Gale:
Richmond Captain
Tasmanian State Representative
244 games and 209 goals.
Stoneham:
241 games and 223 goals
Victorian State Of Origin representative
Geelong Best and Fairest 1990
All-Australian (in an era when it was a lot harder to get) 1992
Geelong Captain 1995-1998.
All 3 played State football - all were either club or state captain in at least 1 season.
Certainly can compare favourably to those of the recent era.
Peauxst.
Was no harder to get an AA jumper in 1992 than it is today. Both teams taken from the best AFL players that season.
Also, being Captain of a side is no indication of playing ability, and shouldn't determine ones place on a list.
You want "Harder to get", try looking at former East Fremantle Ruckman Jack Clarke - a 4 time AA in a time when All-Australians were only chosen in a carnival year, and carnivals were only held every two or three years.
Hahaha, errm no. Kernahan was a much, much better player than Brown and Riewoldt ever was.
What it does show is the level of respect in amongst the playing group that you are a part of.
In the case of Merrett, much like Terry Daniher, he rose to captain 2 separate states. That ain't no small achievement (and in the case of Daniher, who would have been considered in a list of CHF's between 1970 and 1990, he added All-Australian captain and Captain of the 1984 tour of Ireland as well!)
That recognition is just as important or should be considered just as important as the AFLPA MVP or the AFLCA Coaches Award.
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Sounds like a terrific footballer.
But you've placed him 4th best CHF of the past 25 years.
Warren Tredrea:
255 games, 549 goals
4x AA 2001, 02, 03, 04 (VC in 2004)
Premiership Captain 2004
4x B&F with 3 runner ups
8 time PAFC leading goalkicker
2004 AFL Coaches association trophy
A slew of media awards
Played in an era without State of Origin but would have played every game when fit from 1998-2005 and again in 2009 without any shadow of a doubt. Played in 1998 and 1999 before it was canned.
You have one of these guys at #4 and one unlisted.
Seriously.
Easily eclipses Merrett and is on another plane compared to guys like Gale and Stoneham.
Merrett played over 300 games. You have to have been something something right to play that many. Some would say he is a champion.
Terror Time
Club Legend
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Carey
Brereton
Tredrea
Kernahan
Led their sides to a flag.
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Stewart Lowe
Chris Grant
Glen Jackovic
Franklin
Riewoldt
Brown
Richo
the rest. pick your order
Brereton
Tredrea
Kernahan
Led their sides to a flag.
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Stewart Lowe
Chris Grant
Glen Jackovic
Franklin
Riewoldt
Brown
Richo
the rest. pick your order
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Plenty would. Tredrea did more with his 250 games than Merrett did with his 30 despite being cut down in his prime by injury.
Both are champions, one has a strong case to be named a top 4 CHF of the last 25 years. It's not Merrett
Both are champions, one has a strong case to be named a top 4 CHF of the last 25 years. It's not Merrett
Buddy led Hawks to a flag too.
Never played Centre-Half Forward.
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you call Hawkins biased, and then you put SCOTT LUCAS in your top 10.. but not only top 10, at number 4. LMAO
Pathetic.....
Well that settles it.
I know what Mike Sheahan has done since he retired - namely created a bunch of aliases here all caliming Nick Reiwoldt is one of the top ten CHFs.
Fair dinkum, that bloke is so overrated it's not funny.
I know what Mike Sheahan has done since he retired - namely created a bunch of aliases here all caliming Nick Reiwoldt is one of the top ten CHFs.
Fair dinkum, that bloke is so overrated it's not funny.
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haha right you are. Dunno why i remember him playing that position? I was sure the eagles had a good CHF in the 90s tho?
Funnily enough - we've never had a decent CHF at all.
Where did Sumich play?
Hawkins has been on this planet for all of 23 years. Must've watched a lot of replays.
Kernahan not in the top 3, let alone the top 10? The Tomahawk is trolling.
Kernahan not in the top 3, let alone the top 10? The Tomahawk is trolling.
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