Traded Tom Phillips [traded to Hawthorn for pick #65]
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I'm assuming you're using 2020 1st so you can keep pick 14? Anyway, I think you might be underestimating how difficult it is to move up in the draft. For example, Freo paid pick 10, 26, and a 4th to move up 2 spots last year, and in 2016 GWS paid 3 and 18 to move up 1 spot to pick 2!
Using a (very) rough guide, in order to move up in the draft you generally pay about 150% of the fee in points. Future trading into the first round is about the same. e Melbourne trade 2019 Future 1st (Pick 10), 26 and 50 for Pick 10.
So, for Magpies to get Pick 10 from Freo, Collingwood would need trade their current pick 14 and find the equivalent of pick 18-21 in value. Is Phillips in this range? Possibly. Let's say he is. In this instance, Connor Blakely doesn't add anything to the trade or needed to get it done. Clubs prefer to trade other players separately unless they are crucial to the trade (Acres, Crisp etc)
What does all this mean? I have no idea, but if history is anything to go by the following are more realistic:
Phillips, Pick 14, Pick 69 for Pick 10
Forget about pick 5 from the Suns.
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Wouldn’t have thought so for the Gunston one, if we are as bad as most are predicting next year it will basically be
Phillips and 17 or 18 roughly for Gunston and an early 20’s pick.
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Dogs have interest, I wonder if something can be done involving our first this year and Pies first next year and a bunch of other picks swaps.
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The apparent lack of interest from Hawthorn with Isaac Smith likely out the door is making me feel horribly anxious.
Attempting to land Phillips as a moneyball selection is a no-brainer IMO. I'm concerned we are once again trying to focus our energy on a star player who doesn't directly suit our needs. Still have nightmares over our 2018 trade period.
Attempting to land Phillips as a moneyball selection is a no-brainer IMO. I'm concerned we are once again trying to focus our energy on a star player who doesn't directly suit our needs. Still have nightmares over our 2018 trade period.
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Suits the Hawks and if Smith leaves it's a straight away replacement.
Could factor into a deal with Gunston too.
Could factor into a deal with Gunston too.
No way to the first one. Phillips and a late first in a compromised draft for Gunston and an early 2nd in a stronger draft?
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I think he's worth a 2nd-rounder. Hopefully we can package something together with him to move up a bit before a pick for Reef comes in, or otherwise stock some points for 2021 where big bids for Daicos will surely come in.
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With no Isaac Smith and Ricky Henderson, all the more reason for Hawthorn to trade for Tom Phillips.
Rumours doing the rounds that Freo have offered him 3 years. Anyone else heard this?
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The same place he heard it?
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He’s currently pricing himself out of any deal.
Tom Browne on MMM this morning says a deal is close that will see him at Hawthorn
So you rule out the Hawks
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Doesn't strike me as a Clarkson player. Can't kick.
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Were you trying to say Ed Langdon?
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I think those days are over. Have you seen our current midfield?
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So he will fit right in with our midfield
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As opposed to Tom Scully who cant kick, run, handball, mark, tackle. He does consume oxygen very well to be fair
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I mean Scully can still run but yeah the rest is pretty accurate.
Phillips a big upgrade on current Scully.
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Yeah sorry, thats what I mean about consuming oxygen well. Runs around
