Top 15 players 07 - 09 Drafts

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No particular order on what has come so far, not what is too come.

1. Nat Fyfe
2. Trent Cotchin
3. Jack Grimes
4. Jeff Garlett
5. Stephen Hill
6. Dustin Martin
7. Michael Barlow
8. Jack Redden
9. Steele Sidebottom
10. Patrick Dangerfield
11. Daniel Rich
12. Hayden Ballantyne
13. Harry Taylor
14. Cyril Rioli
15. Tom Rockcliff

Then picked 5 out of that in what I believe are the best of the 15

1. Nat Fyfe
2. Cyril Rioli
3. Harry Taylor
4. Steele Sidebottom
5. Stephen Hill


Chris Yarran is gaining on most of these blokes at a rapid rate.
 
Harry Taylor should be a lot higher. Premiership winning CHB. Probably playing the hardest position on the ground.
 
Fyfe will climb this list. Kid is 19 and a footballing genius.
His marking, one touch handling, reading of the game & decision making are unbelievable in one so young.
Shuey will definitely grow in stature too. Kid can seriously play.

Bloody hell Fyfe has come from nowhere. Do Freo supporters rate him above Hill?

Hardly nowhere, I said that in the pre-season but I know what you mean.

As for the Hill thing, They are nothing alike but beautifully complimentary. I think most on our board rate Fyfe right up there with a few now thinking he's better. Hill is my favourite player but I rate Fyfe his equal on potential.
 

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No particular order on what has come so far, not what is too come.

1. Nat Fyfe
2. Trent Cotchin
3. Jack Grimes
4. Jeff Garlett
5. Stephen Hill
6. Dustin Martin
7. Michael Barlow
8. Jack Redden
9. Steele Sidebottom
10. Patrick Dangerfield
11. Daniel Rich
12. Hayden Ballantyne
13. Harry Taylor
14. Cyril Rioli
15. Tom Rockcliff

Then picked 5 out of that in what I believe are the best of the 15

1. Nat Fyfe
2. Cyril Rioli
3. Harry Taylor
4. Steele Sidebottom
5. Stephen Hill

Hurley:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
have enjoyed reading this thread

some very serious talent over the last couple of years...i think we're lined up for another era of having players like hird, buckley, voss & carey all playing in power teams at the same time

must admit though am very surprised about the lack of love for cotchin. i know i'm biased but this guy is a seriously talented player & is starting to get some serious runs on the board as well
 
have enjoyed reading this thread

some very serious talent over the last couple of years...i think we're lined up for another era of having players like hird, buckley, voss & carey all playing in power teams at the same time

must admit though am very surprised about the lack of love for cotchin. i know i'm biased but this guy is a seriously talented player & is starting to get some serious runs on the board as well

Good call, and wrt Cotchin it was always a 'when' not an 'if' he would become an excellent player
 
have enjoyed reading this thread

some very serious talent over the last couple of years...i think we're lined up for another era of having players like hird, buckley, voss & carey all playing in power teams at the same time

must admit though am very surprised about the lack of love for cotchin. i know i'm biased but this guy is a seriously talented player & is starting to get some serious runs on the board as well



Hird, Buckley, Voss maybe.



I don't think we are likely to see any of the KP players getting anywhere near Carey though.

Franklin and J.Riewoldt will probably go down as the two best forwards of this period.

They arn't even in the same stratisphere imo.

Franklin hasn't got anywhere near the skill of Carey, and Riewoldt isn't anywhere near as dominant.

If you combined the two, you might get close.


Genuinely once in a lifetime player, not recognised as a toss up as the best player of all time for nothing.
 
You know today i had a quiet chuckle to myself. Yesterday i watched jack watts play a decent game. Then today i watched nick naitanui beat the most dominant player in the game.

I love watching Nic nat play, didn't see him today but he was fantastic last week, tries his guts out and plays with real heart, has a very bright future...
 
You know today i had a quiet chuckle to myself. Yesterday i watched jack watts play a decent game. Then today i watched nick naitanui beat the most dominant player in the game.

look naitanui played a solid game today and was fantastic last week, but he did not by any stretch of the imagination beat Sandilands

I watched the game and Sandilands absolutely destroyed in the ruck, he had something like 6 more hitouts than Cox and NN together

A lot of Cox and NN's taps came against Kep iirc

NN's tackling was great but from memory he butchered the ball

nNo where near beating hi

NN was always going to come on more quickly than Watts and having Cox as a mentor has no doubt helped him immensely as the best ruckman of the modern era arguably, I'm happy with Watts' progression :thumbsu:
 
look naitanui played a solid game today and was fantastic last week, but he did not by any stretch of the imagination beat Sandilands

I watched the game and Sandilands absolutely destroyed in the ruck, he had something like 6 more hitouts than Cox and NN together

A lot of Cox and NN's taps came against Kep iirc

NN's tackling was great but from memory he butchered the ball

nNo where near beating hi

NN was always going to come on more quickly than Watts and having Cox as a mentor has no doubt helped him immensely as the best ruckman of the modern era arguably, I'm happy with Watts' progression :thumbsu:

Nic nat was the best ruckman on the ground. Commentators seemed to agree aswell.
 

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Has there been a many matches that Sandilands hasn't gotten the top number of taps in, in the last 2 years?

He has about 10cm and 30kg on Naitanui so I am surprised he got close at all. However Sandilands was left in Naitanui's wake several times when the ball dribbled away. I would love to see HO to Adv as I severly doubt there was more than 3-4 to Sandilands for his 40.

Had a great game and was really surprised it was only 12 disposals as he had far more impact on the result than that suggests.
 
I agree about general play, but I thought he meant in regards to actual ruckwork??

Sorry if I misunderstood

Sandi got more taps - but his influence was largely quelled - illustrated by the fact we got on top of the clearances.

This time last year we won the taps quite easily - but Sandi was dominant on the day.

NN was superb yesterday - if we were comparing direct influence on the result of the game - NN>Sandi by a margin. Set up goals with his tackling and pressure and kicked one himself.

All this from a bloke who is 21 and doesn't know the game apparently.
 
Has there been a many matches that Sandilands hasn't gotten the top number of taps in, in the last 2 years?

He has about 10cm and 30kg on Naitanui so I am surprised he got close at all. However Sandilands was left in Naitanui's wake several times when the ball dribbled away. I would love to see HO to Adv as I severly doubt there was more than 3-4 to Sandilands for his 40.

Had a great game and was really surprised it was only 12 disposals as he had far more impact on the result than that suggests.

I am 100% sure that in atleast one of the derby's last year the eagles got a reasonably significant more amount of hit outs than freo. As in Cox + NN> Sandilands and any part time fill in.
My point being that he was beaten in the taps by us once last year. He still woulda got the most hitouts for the game but thats because he plays 100% ruck time and cox and nn play 50 each.
 
Hird, Buckley, Voss maybe.



I don't think we are likely to see any of the KP players getting anywhere near Carey though.

Franklin and J.Riewoldt will probably go down as the two best forwards of this period.

They arn't even in the same stratisphere imo.

Franklin hasn't got anywhere near the skill of Carey, and Riewoldt isn't anywhere near as dominant.

If you combined the two, you might get close.


Genuinely once in a lifetime player, not recognised as a toss up as the best player of all time for nothing.

good call. will be interesting to see if things such as the fwd press, zoning, rotations, flooding etc. combined allow fwds to be as dominant as they used to be.

yes some of things were around in carey's days but not all

we've already seen it happen with full forwards...teams these days prefer to have as even a spread as possible & can't afford to have stand-out targets.

either way, will be a long while before we see another carey
 
good call. will be interesting to see if things such as the fwd press, zoning, rotations, flooding etc. combined allow fwds to be as dominant as they used to be.

yes some of things were around in carey's days but not all

we've already seen it happen with full forwards...teams these days prefer to have as even a spread as possible & can't afford to have stand-out targets.

either way, will be a long while before we see another carey

North still had an even spread of goal kickers when Carey was there. He might have had the odd big day out but overall hes scoring contribution was similar to toadys forwards. The most he kicked in a year was 82 goals from 25 games in 1996
 
hartlett is starting to put some super games together.

wtf with all the melb wc supporters still going at each other about watts/ nicnat...

stfu, honestly, ild give my left arm for either, and as for wrong choice/ right choice at draft time the only wrong choice is the player who never impacts your 22/never plays 100+ games for your club.

ie, pafc choosing boak over selwood, selwood is a super gun and the better player, but we have a star mid in boak. not a loss.

choosing mitch thorpe at 6 over selwood is a mistake. !@#^ happens.

no matter how good nicnat becomes, it doesnt mean anything to melb if watts can become the player he looks like
 
Looking at all the players, by the age of 24 NicNat will be one of the top 10 players in the AFL provided he stays healthy and gets 100 games under his belt. Outstanding last couple of weeks just shows his potential.

That's the criteria for this list - likelihood of being one of the top 10 players in the game in their prime.

1. Naitanui
2. Dangerfield
3. Scully
4. Martin
5. Hill
6. Rioli
7. Cotchin
8. Trengove
9. Fyfe
10. Rich
11. Watts
12. Kreuzer
13. Hartlett
14. Sidebottom
15. Barlow

Honourable mention: Shuey, Morabito (on physical talent), Ward
 
When was the last time there was a top 10 player who built a reputation of spoils tackles and 1%'ers..... oh and was a ruckman with poor disposal... no chance
 
2. Dangerfield
3. Scully
4. Martin
5. Hill
6. Rioli
7. Cotchin
8. Trengove
9. Fyfe
10. Rich
11. Watts
12. Kreuzer
13. Hartlett
14. Sidebottom
15. Barlow

Give me bolded over Dangerfield. Good player but very overrated especially if you have him at 2, IMO.
 
Looking at all the players, by the age of 24 NicNat will be one of the top 10 players in the AFL provided he stays healthy and gets 100 games under his belt. Outstanding last couple of weeks just shows his potential.

That's the criteria for this list - likelihood of being one of the top 10 players in the game in their prime.

1. Naitanui (Fyfe)
2. Dangerfield (Martin)
3. Scully (Hill)
4. Martin (Scully)
5. Hill (Naitanui)
6. Rioli (Cotchin)
7. Cotchin (Dangerfield)
8. Trengove (Trengove)
9. Fyfe (Rioli)
10. Rich (Kruezer)
11. Watts (Hurley)
12. Kreuzer (Watts)
13. Hartlett (Hartlett)
14. Sidebottom (Sidebottom)
15. Barlow (Ward) - until I see Barlow back to anything vaguely resembling his best, I'll bee skeptical I'm afraid

Honourable mention: Shuey, Morabito (on physical talent), Ward

Not a bad list I've put in brackets my list of pretty much the same players
 
When was the last time there was a top 10 player who built a reputation of spoils tackles and 1%'ers..... oh and was a ruckman with poor disposal... no chance

When was the last time there was a brilliant tap ruckman who happened to be a clearance specialist, a tackling machine, a decent goal kicker with the strength and speed of a panther who can turn whole games in minutes?

There hasn't been. He is well in front of where all ruckman have been at his age as it was noted last week that while we currently have Naita winning the odd game for us and smashing the middle, Coxy and Sandi where still rusting away on the rookie list not 100% sure if either would ever make it. All Naitanui needs is more endurance and consistency.
 

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