Spot on.
I always giggle when Carltank supporters think that Kernahan was better than Dermie.
I'd take Kernahan - more consistent.
Dermie's best was probably better but Kernahan used to turn up nearly every week and play well. Absolute superstar.
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I'd take Kernahan - more consistent.
Dermie's best was probably better but Kernahan used to turn up nearly every week and play well. Absolute superstar.
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I don't think there's much betwen them and if pushed I would probably take Kernahan. What most people are discounting is that Kernahan almost always took the oppositions best defender whereas this rarely if ever happened to Brereton.
as much as i love Browny, people in this thread saying he is better than Kernahan are dreamin IMO.
How old are you?! I wish I could comment, but my memories start fron 87/88ish. From 70-08 is 38 years! you would have to be 50-60 years of age to have a good and fair knowledge on FF/CHF over that time.
I believe the game has changed SOOO much in 38 years pretty hard to compare someone from 70-75 to 00-05.
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And I could use Round 2, 1993, when Sticks had a chance to win it for the Blues, only had to score to win the game; 35m out, on a 45 degree angle, AND MISSED THE LOT!!!
If my memory serves me correctly, it was a beautiful drop punt off the boot too - funny that with the Mulleted Marvel, the bigger the munga of a kick, the straighter it went.
Sorry to do that, I personally would put Sticks easily in the top 3...
I am sure most on here have never heard of him.
But i rate him pretty highly along with Bernie Quinlan in my previous posts in this thread
Maybe we are just showing our age
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Full forwards:
1. Tony Lockett (1360 goals)
2. Jason Dunstall (1254 goals)
3. Gary Ablett (1030 goals)
4. Matthew Lloyd (891 goals)
5. Bernie Quinlan (817 goals)
Perhaps a little simplistic, but there wouldn't be too many who'd fit into that list.
CHF is much harder to do objectively.
1. Tony Lockett (1360 goals)
2. Jason Dunstall (1254 goals)
3. Gary Ablett (1030 goals)
4. Matthew Lloyd (891 goals)
5. Bernie Quinlan (817 goals)
Perhaps a little simplistic, but there wouldn't be too many who'd fit into that list.
CHF is much harder to do objectively.
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Doug Wade kicked 1057 goals but not too much love in here. Guess he did play a long time ago, but certainly his record speaks for itself.
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no. at his best, as good as any.
his best wasn't long enough, but there is no question about his innate quality.
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would you stop making things up as if you had a clue?
yet on the flip side the team always looked for Dunstall.
When he was out Dermott often dominated and kicked big bags.
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What is your claim to fame aside from being a blueprint for a complete imbecile?
What on earth are you on about?
McKenna = 624 goals
Wade = 481
These two guys are clearly ruled out if we use the other guys simplistic approach.
Uh Doug Wadde kicked 1057 goals, http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players/D/Doug_Wade.html
I think he was refering to goals from 1970 onwards, because as this had stated its best since 1970. Well, thats just what I'm assuming
Fair enough, I'll take that.
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Re: Kernahan and Brereton.
If you could take one at the very beginning of their careers, knowing what we know, and that is, what they delivered for the duration, it's hard to go past Sticks personally.
To average a tick under 3 goals a game at VFL/AFL level over 250 games - combined with his superb SANFL record (3 x Glenelg B&F, a Jack Oatey Medal and rubbed out of a Magarey) is just absurd.
But I guess it's what you want. The durable goalkicking go-to guy CHF or the bash'n'crash pivot who essentially sacrifices his career for the benefit of the team and blokes further forward - but can kick bags when serving as the focal point and always catches fire in September when it matters.
Out of interest - AFL Tables has Dermie at 186cms. That can't be right, surely?
If you could take one at the very beginning of their careers, knowing what we know, and that is, what they delivered for the duration, it's hard to go past Sticks personally.
To average a tick under 3 goals a game at VFL/AFL level over 250 games - combined with his superb SANFL record (3 x Glenelg B&F, a Jack Oatey Medal and rubbed out of a Magarey) is just absurd.
But I guess it's what you want. The durable goalkicking go-to guy CHF or the bash'n'crash pivot who essentially sacrifices his career for the benefit of the team and blokes further forward - but can kick bags when serving as the focal point and always catches fire in September when it matters.
Out of interest - AFL Tables has Dermie at 186cms. That can't be right, surely?
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Yeah, agree with your logic. Derm was always listed at about 186cm. Played a lot taller than that though.
186 wouldn't be far off though, I'm 189 and I've stood next to him. He is just a touch shorter.
Yep, Derm was 6ft 1' in the old scales. Played like he was 6ft 4'!!
Regarding why you would take sticks over Dermie, Dermie provided so much more than just GPP! Players around him lifted when he was on fire and taking out opposition players like Van Der Haar!
Dermie EVERY time!
Considering Hart is the CHF from the team of the century, one would think that he was slightly better than Riewoldt
At the beginning of his career Brereton's record was sensational. It was later on he struggled with a swag of injuries.
He was very young when he kicked those 8 goals in a GF (in a team that got pumped).
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