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oh hai, not welcome back.
How do you know that we didn't evaluate all the other alternatives and end up not rating them on value and potential?
Just a simple question.
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oh hai, not welcome back.
How do you know that we didn't evaluate all the other alternatives and end up not rating them on value and potential?
Just a simple question.
You know, we can still get something in the draft. Think mature aged forward in the 2s high up in club awards at a particular club.
Or we can re-jig our forward line like the Hawks and there is no one key forward....really.. Even without Roughead, they score.........
Or we can re-jig our forward line like the Hawks and there is no one key forward....really.. Even without Roughead, they score.........
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That didn't answer my question Freagle. You're attempting, poorly, to blow smoke up our arse.
Again...
How do you know that we didn't evaluate all the other alternatives and end up not rating them on value and potential?
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Why give up our first rounder for a guy who can score the same numbers as Mayne when we already have Mayne?
Sounds like an expensive sideways move serving no purpose other than making a trade for the sake of making a trade.
Sounds like an expensive sideways move serving no purpose other than making a trade for the sake of making a trade.
Its interesting that in Pav's book he (our greatest ever player, carried the club on his back for 16 years, future legend and hall of fame walk up start, solid citizen, AFLPA Pres etc etc) rates Bond as one of the best football people he's known in that 16 years in the industry for smarts, work ethic etc.
In his book Pav is quite sparing with real praise and only singles out a few individuals that he genuinely rates and admires in the industry and Bond is one of them.
I wonder what all the genius's here know that Pav doesn't?
In his book Pav is quite sparing with real praise and only singles out a few individuals that he genuinely rates and admires in the industry and Bond is one of them.
I wonder what all the genius's here know that Pav doesn't?
Yep, have read the book and Pav is glowing in his praise for Bond.
thats kind of my point. there are a lot of good blokes acknowledged in the book but very few people singled out for genuine admiration and Bond gets a real good wrap. Up there with Ross.
It is easy to criticise the recruiting staff but getting a quality KPF from interstate is not easy. They threw massive money at Cloke who didn't want to leave Melbourne, & GWS were never going to trade McCarthy after the Boyd affair last year.
Getting established key forwards to go to Perth unless they are originally WA boys will always be very difficult. Most players don't want to leave Melbourne & that is just how it is.
Getting established key forwards to go to Perth unless they are originally WA boys will always be very difficult. Most players don't want to leave Melbourne & that is just how it is.
Frank J Moose
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Ive asked before name the "quality" key forwards we should have but don't?
According to teports we tried Dixon and Schulz this offseason, but they didn't want to come. Riewoldt, Cloke, Hawkins we all contacted during their free agent period. Freo? No thanks. You don't reckon they asked every key forward available? Sorry don't want to play in WA is the answer. And name one quality key foeward we could have drafted in the last seven years. Darling is the only real one and we know why he was passed over.
There is very little that they could have realistically done
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Great call and I'm certain from everything I hear was the clubs thinking. What is the point if it doesn't improve your list. I just wish that principal was applied to additions like Sylvia and Anthony. I can understand Gumbleton but sadly that just didn't work out.
Black and I liked him in 2013 but a bit like Bryan Adams' classic, 'Summer of 69':
"Oh, when I look back now
That summer seemed to last forever
And if I had the choice
Yeah, I'd always wanna be there
Those were the best days of my life"
Change summer of 69 to winter of 13 and you'll get where I'm going.
A Freo mate at my work reckons we should have gone hard for Aaron "Jack Anthony MK2" Black. I think some supporters honestly just get bored during trade period, they want to see stuff happen and no action = failure. But seriously, Black? Who's next, Liam Jones?
Daniel Schell.
You're right and missing McGovern was the biggest howler. His dad played for us and heaps pointed out his talent. Yes his skin folds and tank weren't great but the e-girls hit gold on the rookie list and it causes me constant pain. I remember seeing McGovern play colts (before being drafted) and then a raw bloke playing some league for Claremont (just after being rookie drafted) and what stood out was his marking ability. Sadly our recruiters over analysed and talked themselves out of that one.
Yeh because after the Hawthorn game I thought to myself gee if we had two Maynes instead of one out there things would of been different.
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How can McGovern be a howler? He was 44 in the rookie draft. He spent two years as a rookie before he played as was almost delisted for coming back fat and unfit. Every club passed him over at least 5 times.
And had we selected him most of the board would have been calling for his delisting before he got on the park.
And had we selected him most of the board would have been calling for his delisting before he got on the park.
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Yeah, I can't remember any derision at all at the time.
More like "LOL Eagles just listed another fat campaigner LOL"
and considering the backmen we've had in those years, we would have delisted him before he got on the park.
I think it was in yesterday's ST regarding CY.A little piece on how HB and RTB really clicked in their several meetings,exciting times for all involved.
I can't wait for the applause that awaits HB when he slots his first major for us.....
I can't wait for the applause that awaits HB when he slots his first major for us.....
Jeez man give it a rest. It's disappointing we didn't get one but they are hard to land, we never get top 10 draft picks and we'll have McCarthy soon enough
in hindsight. Like I said.
In hindsight McGovern is a contested marking beast and a superb footballer, full of heart, effort and creativity.
It is not unreasonable to suggest that people who are paid money for the business of identifying good footballers could have been expected to identify McGovern as a good footballer.
We've been picking endurance footballers for a while in anticipation of the number of rotations going down. His endurance is poor. But he's so good at reading the play he doesn't do unnecessary running. I'd love to have him in the team, and it's a miss. But getting him would go against the philosophy of a hard running team which is what our list is built on.
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