We were definitely in it. Clarko said he was worried about us getting in front because he knew we would have the momentum. The momentum died right there, unfortunately for Sheridan. Hopefully the players get around him and he comes out breathing fire next year.
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My thoughts on winning the flag this year, is that we would have pinched it, we gave ourselves the chance with our ladder position, but our playing list, best 22
is not elite.
I dont just want to pinch a cup, I want a dynasty created at Fremantle, and now we have the opportunity to make this happen, forget about ladder position, who we
want to play in finals, we just need top four, and our ethos anywhere anytime.
I want to see Ross prove that he is capable of change, be more aggresive, attacking, the same of Bond and Co, we are only a few
players short.
History is on our side if we want to learn from it, think Cats, Hawks, both were written off, coaches under the
pump.
is not elite.
I dont just want to pinch a cup, I want a dynasty created at Fremantle, and now we have the opportunity to make this happen, forget about ladder position, who we
want to play in finals, we just need top four, and our ethos anywhere anytime.
I want to see Ross prove that he is capable of change, be more aggresive, attacking, the same of Bond and Co, we are only a few
players short.
History is on our side if we want to learn from it, think Cats, Hawks, both were written off, coaches under the
pump.
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When Clarke has played as the no. 1 ruck he plays well - just as well as what Leunberger can at this stage of his career due to his worn down body. Leunberger's body is fked, he has only been able to play 42 games in the last 4 seasons (88 games) due to a litany of injuries. There was an article on him during the pre-season that said his body can only manage to train 2 in every 3 days during pre-season because his body is so brittle. I don't really think taking an unnecessary risk in swapping a soon to be 28 year old injury prone ruckman who's best footy is behind him for a fit and healthy 25 year old is "fantastic business". When Sandilands retires, Leunberger will probably be on deaths door step himself - his bodies biological age couldn't be very good.
Resting Sandilands forward doesn't work either, if it did it would have worked by now. He is not anywhere near good enough overhead as he should be, and he is an absolute liability once the ball hits the deck due to his poor mobility.
And, Leunberger is just as woeful as Clarke is up forward - just ask any of the Brisbane supporters. Just because ruckman are 200 cm are tall, it doesn't mean they are going to be effective up forward. I think Jon Griffin shows a better aptitude up forward than either of those blokes, fwiw anyway.
If Clarke has got on the front foot and requested a trade then I can understand it, but if it is the club trying to manufacture it then it reeks of incompetence. People have short memories, Clarke does a good job when given the continuity and responsibility of being a no. 1 ruck over an extended period of time. I certainly don't want to be swapping him with a bloke who has the potential to end up a becoming an absolute disaster who spends more time with the clubs physiotherapist than he does playing footy.
Why don't we just use Jon Griffin as the 2nd ruck and wait until Sandi actually needs to be replaced and get someone then instead of wasting $450K on someone who we don't even need. Clarke and Sandi doesn't work. Leunberger and Sandi won't work. Griffin and Sandilands is fine - it's cheaper than the other 2 options and marginally more effective. Just an unnecessary waste of money. Get rid of DeBoer ($250K), Suban ($250K) + save the $450K that Leunberger would demand and make damn sure that we have enough to get Hooker when he becomes a free agent at the end of next year.
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To much common sense in this post, can you imagine big luey saying to Ross I only train two days a week,he be out quicker than Silvia and Simpson. Even with his light training duties he still did not stay injury free.
We need a good forward not another ruckman.
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Disagree with you here. I think Boyd will develop similar to Hawkins, but McCarthy looks like an absolute jet around goals. He can kick them from all angles. He might only take the second best defender, but that is still good defender for most teams.
I'm not sure what type of forward McCarthy will be yet, but he has shown more than Boyd. Boyd just looks to slow around goals.
We need a forward/ruck not a ruck/forward. We have tried that already for years. Hell I reckon Dawson could re-invent himself up forward and give a chop out in the ruck and would offer more than Clarke did.
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I hear through the grape vine it's over money and he has a contract offer but had more from other clubs. Now my grapevine is not often right but that's what I hear.
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I can't find the article, but there was one earlier in the year which stated that contract talks were fairly advanced. Now, we haven't heard anything more about it, and his form towards the end of the season suggests a player who is likely to be gone at the end of the season.
We could see
Z.Clarke-> Bulldogs
M.Talia -> GWS
2 first round picks -> GWS
McCarthy -> Freo
Bondy I'm available if you need me.
Don't think that quite stacks up. Bulldogs get Clarke for a first rounder and Talia?!! I'd do it from Freo's perspective though if we get Leuwie as a FA.
Retire - McPharlin, Pav
Trade - Mzungu, Suban, Clarke (,de Boer?,D.Pearce? - may be delisted)
Delist - Morabito, Sylvia
That is 7-9 spots to fill. Operation get Bennell + McCarthy begins now.
Mayne needs to start kicking straight again or play in defense. Mzungu was actually trying his heart out, he just kept missing targets and turning it over.
Trade - Mzungu, Suban, Clarke (,de Boer?,D.Pearce? - may be delisted)
Delist - Morabito, Sylvia
That is 7-9 spots to fill. Operation get Bennell + McCarthy begins now.
Mayne needs to start kicking straight again or play in defense. Mzungu was actually trying his heart out, he just kept missing targets and turning it over.
You don't want to fill that number of vacancies from this draft, and players like Bennell and McCarthy will only be here if we trade our best picks. We can upgrade some rookies, but we are not going to find decent players in the third round.
I guess if we look at Bootsma, Adams, Yarran (WAFL) then this will fill the void to some extent.
Shoenmaker if he nominated us, could come for a 3rd round or 4th round pick. Mitch Brown (VFL) should still be there in the 3rd.
That is 5 players meaning we only have to draft 4, and Bond and Lloyd always have a few good late picks.
We won't chase Leuenberger, he's a ruck/barely forward. We need a forward/ruck and it looks like we are going to just persevere with Griffin/Clarke in that role for one more year.
Having said that I find it strange that the club has signed Clarke for only 1 more year given he is a FA next year. It's possible they are still going to trade him.
Having said that I find it strange that the club has signed Clarke for only 1 more year given he is a FA next year. It's possible they are still going to trade him.
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Be interested in some hypotheticals that have been suggested to land McCarthy and Bennell, if anyone can be bothered.
I come in peace.
I come in peace.
The change in the sub rule lessens the need for a ruck/forward IMO. A genuine ruck like Leuenberger can be used
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Weller and our first for Saints first (Pick5)
Pick 5 and steak knives for McCarthy.
2016 first rounder for Bennell.
The steak knives will depend on who the supposed three players that want to leave are. I'm assuming Weller is one of them.
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I think that's reasonable.
This one has been floated around a fair bit.
Don't overly mind it, provided Weller wants to leave.
We would certainly be getting the short straw on paper but it is what would be required to land McCarthy.
At the time the Judd deal was looked upon as a win for Carlton, in reality, over time, huge win for the eagles.
Don't get me wrong, we need McCarthy and he could be anything.
Pulling out the Judd deal is simply one to suit your argument. I could find countless more that have worked the opposite.
Only time will tell but Weller could be anything also.
True, but I think Weller will take time, will be a great midfielder. But do Fremantle wait three years, or trade now for something that
is a missing piece of the puzzle?
All depends on Bennell, if we win his services, Weller will be pushed back further in the pecking order.
Worst is saying Howe is on our radar.
Is Howe a FA?
Is Howe a FA?
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Weller is already down the pecking order, he doesn't have the fitness or experience Ross requires to play.
There is only one way for him to break into the team next year and thats to rip up the WAFL 25+ Disposals a game.
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