Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[dergert]

Hawthorn are going to trade/delist Tyler Brockman. Is he any good?

 

[Curly5]

That explains why he wanted to go to Essendon!
He just wants to play for a team where everyone is pulling in the same direction.
Makes perfect sense now.

In hindsight I wish he had

 

[Foxman98]

Any indigenous players at North or Lions we can ask about?

They may be looking for a way out of their respective clubs right about now.

Charlie Cameron goes alright as does Jy Simpkin

 

[Dogs Rule]

Jack Graham

34

Jack Graham

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

looking at options. Yeah, I would be interested.

 

[Dale4captain]

Jack Graham looking at options. Yeah, I would be interested.

He’s a good player but do we actually need another centre square on baller?

I feel it’s time we restructure our midfield and give them proper defined roles. Enough of the six man merry go round we’ve run with for the past 3 years. Bont, Macrae and Libba start in the centre every game. Smith and Treloar both rotate through the wings and half forward but are cover for that centre trio.

Let’s stop ****ing around and playing two sets of starters for 50% each and just back our stars in. Treloar is a good option on the wing and half forward. Genuine goal kicker and good user when he puts his head down. Smith can run all day and needs to spend the preseason practising that full pace delivery inside 50 from a wing. He could be a weapon.

 

[Gollo]

Dunkley is an A grade footballer whose competitiveness, overhead marking, ball-winning and tackling have been influential for a number of years and it is always unfortunate to lose high-quality talent, but it's not unreasonable to swing this in a positive light. He is a bottom-10% kick in the entire comp (I assure you this isn't revisionism, I have felt this way for years) and we are a side who routinely waste forward thrusts through sub-par ball use. If we can turn this situation via trade or salary cap manipulation into an efficient defender or ball user then I'll actually be quite happy with Dunks leaving. No resentment, think it can be quite a win win.

 

[Philthy1]

Dunkley is an A grade footballer whose competitiveness, overhead marking, ball-winning and tackling have been influential for a number of years and it is always unfortunate to lose high-quality talent, but it's not unreasonable to swing this in a positive light. He is a bottom-10% kick in the entire comp (I assure you this isn't revisionism, I have felt this way for years) and we are a side who routinely waste forward thrusts through sub-par ball use. If we can turn this situation via trade or salary cap manipulation into an efficient defender or ball user then I'll actually be quite happy with Dunks leaving. No resentment, think it can be quite a win win.

If we get two first round draft picks for him and we get 4 first rounders in the door this year and next we will maintain our window being open for years to come.

 

[VitalDread]

Charlie Cameron goes alright as does Jy Simpkin

Simpkin is a free agent

 

[Northernsoul74]

Hawthorn are going to trade/delist Tyler Brockman. Is he any good?

Talented but homesick for WA is the reason.

 

[Foxman98]

Simpkin is a free agent

Tarryn Thomas also one worth a look

 

[Jen Geoffings]

But the club statement said we were disappointed and we'd only just been notified....surely the club wouldn't lie to us in a statement.....

Issues management is about preparing for possibilities and likelihoods. Official notification is when the likelihood becomes definite. So a lot of preparation can go into a likely outcome while the participants are requested not to speculate publicly and to ‘flat bat’ media enquiries prior to giving definitive notification. So when the club says they received notification today, even though they have been actively preparing for the likelihood, they are not lying. Its a common process but it is frustrating for stakeholders (fans) who want a definite outcome asap while the decision makers (clubs) see no good can come from speculative public comment and employees (players) comply cos they want the best deal to be struck.

 

[VitalDread]

Tarryn Thomas also one worth a look

THink he just re-signed so not sure how the CBA handles trading after signing

Plus he would go to Gold Coast

 

[compact72]

I wonder if things with Dunkley may change? May as well see if his happy to goto Gold Coast

You know, brisbane coach isn't that professional

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[Foxman98]

THink he just re-signed so not sure how the CBA handles trading after signing

Plus he would go to Gold Coast

Why would he go to GC? He's from Tassy has a heap of talent and can play the on ball half forward role

 

[Al dente]

It’s not looking good for Fagan / Clarko .

what a disgrace this industry is, when Clarko is our most admired leader, and Fagan not far behind

 

[doggies ftw]

All things aside, the thought of Dunks having to go to a club in turmoil looking for a new coach is admittedly very funny

 

[Foxman98]

All things aside, the thought of Dunks having to go to a club in turmoil looking for a new coach is admittedly very funny

Especially after the shots he fired about professionalism on the way out

 

[compact72]

All things aside, the thought of Dunks having to go to a club in turmoil looking for a new coach is admittedly very funny

Maybe it was planned by Bevo

Tom Morris, followed by this report

One big conspiracy!!

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[Chalky White]

I think Rhylee West leads the league in that category - huge noggin

I used to laugh at the MMM commentary team when they commentated Brett Ebert and just call him Head.

 

[Chalky White]

In hindsight I wish he had

We couldn't due to points issue when trying to get JUH. I am sure if we were able to use the picks they offered us properly then it might have got done.

 

[Sentinel]

All things aside, the thought of Dunks having to go to a club in turmoil looking for a new coach is admittedly very funny

It's the unbeatable culture up there which does it for Josh. Under a potentially non existent head coach, and captain Dane Zorko.

 

[doggiesin08]

Man I want Hunter Clark on the wing, would happily on-trade one of our late firsts from Brissy with maybe a late pick back from Saints for points

Thinking about this more, would you do:

Dogs:
Out: Dunkley, Schache, Pick #39
In: Clark, Brisbane R1 2023

Saints:
In: Pick #15, Schache
Out: Clark, Pick #47

Lions:
In: Dunkley, Pick #39, Pick #47
Out: Pick #15, R1 2023

Picks quoted adjusted for Amon and McStay band 2 compensation (pick #19 and pick #20). Leaves Brisbane with Picks #20, #35, #39, #46, #47 and #71 which is 2,556 points. They need 2400 to match Ashcroft at pick #1 and that should give them enough (with 2023 deficits) to match on Fletcher.

Brisbane should also get to work on somehow incentivising North not to bid at pick #1.

 

[dish licker]

He’s a good player but do we actually need another centre square on baller?

I feel it’s time we restructure our midfield and give them proper defined roles. Enough of the six man merry go round we’ve run with for the past 3 years. Bont, Macrae and Libba start in the centre every game. Smith and Treloar both rotate through the wings and half forward but are cover for that centre trio.

Let’s stop ******* around and playing two sets of starters for 50% each and just back our stars in. Treloar is a good option on the wing and half forward. Genuine goal kicker and good user when he puts his head down. Smith can run all day and needs to spend the preseason practising that full pace delivery inside 50 from a wing. He could be a weapon.

Sounds good, I don't think i could stand another season of snakes and ladders.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Why would he go to GC? He's from Tassy has a heap of talent and can play the on ball half forward role

Actually Tarryn and his family are from Sydney they moved over to Tasmania when he was a teenager.

 

[Foxman98]

Thinking about this more, would you do:

Dogs:
Out: Dunkley, Schache, Pick #39
In: Clark, Brisbane R1 2023

Saints:
In: Pick #15, Schache
Out: Clark, Pick #47

Lions:
In: Dunkley, Pick #39, Pick #47
Out: Pick #15, R1 2023

Picks quoted adjusted for Amon and McStay band 2 compensation (pick #19 and pick #20). Leaves Brisbane with Picks #20, #35, #39, #46, #47 and #71 which is 2,556 points. They need 2400 to match Ashcroft at pick #1 and that should give them enough (with 2023 deficits) to match on Fletcher.

Brisbane should also get to work on somehow incentivising North not to bid at pick #1.

Terrible for us