Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 5 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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Brisbane-bound midfielder Josh Dunkley says he is confident Chris Fagan will be his coach at the Lions next year as he denied a culture issue was at play in his second trade request in two years.
Dunkley will move to Brisbane if the Lions can broker a trade with the Western Bulldogs, but says after 18 goals in his outstanding 2022 season he is prepared to play mid-forward in an onball unit that includes Lachie Neale and Hugh McCluggage.

The Herald Sun revealed last week Dunkley would sign a six-year deal worth $750,000 per year, and Dunkley said he had genuinely been unsure about his decision until last Monday when he officially asked for a trade.

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He told the Herald Sun at the TAB Spring Racing launch that while Fagan could not go into details about the accusations from First Nations players about conduct in his time at Hawthorn, Dunkley believes will would coach the Lions next year.

“It was a tough decision and something I had to think about a lot,” he said of his trade request.

“Weighing up my life here (in Melbourne) and in Adelaide with my partner Tippah and my life in Brisbane as well. So at the end of the day I feel like it’s a good lifestyle decision and they have an exciting list up there.

“Fages was really good. He is really disappointed and everyone knows that. It’s been on the public record that he has been struggling with it, but he’s a great person and we didn’t talk too much about it. He just wanted to reassure me that he feels like he hasn’t done too much wrong and with the situation that is going on, it’s hard to talk about.

“It definitely didn’t make me second guess. Everyone has backed him in and all the news reports have backed him in, and from what I have had to do with him in such little time he’s such a good human being and he’s really cared for me, and I am looking forward to that relationship and getting up and meeting him.”


Josh Dunkley says he is moving to Brisbane for lifestyle reasons. Picture: Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)

Josh Dunkley says he is moving to Brisbane for lifestyle reasons. Picture: Darrian Traynor/Getty Images)
Treloar’s great mate Adam Treloar’s partner Kim Ravaillion is in Brisbane playing Super Netball, and he is likely to join her once his AFL career is finished.

It means that while it will be difficult for Dunkley to leave his best friend, they will be reunited in Queensland in coming years, with the 25-year-old adamant the decision was based around lifestyle.

His partner Tippah plays Super Netball with Adelaide and while all contracts in the league are up at the end of next year, she loves the exciting young side she is playing with.

But in the long-term they will settle in Queensland, with 2016 premiership player Dunkley describing it as an offer too good to refuse.

Dunkley asked for a trade to Essendon at the end of 2020 amid the turbulent finish to the club’s hub experience in Queensland, but is adamant the Dogs culture is sound.

It is no secret the ultra-professional Dunkley led the charge on that front at the Dogs, but he said his relationship with coach Luke Beveridge was good.

“I think that was never an issue. It was more for me the on-field stuff and my role and the lifestyle. I feel like I can improve my footy again in the team up there. The culture stuff never came into my decision making.

“The culture is really good at the (Bulldogs) footy club. The boys are really close

“This year has been the best year out of all of them. It was a good step in the right direction after the grand final, so there is no bad blood.

“Bevo was really good to speak to on the phone. We have had a great relationship from day one and before I was drafted he spoke to me about how much I can be a role model and leader, so Bevo has been great for me and he’s like a father figure.

“I said to Bevo it was more of a lifestyle choice. He backed it in and said he completely understands the long-term deal was appealing.”
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Interesting bit - "he feels like he hasn’t done too much wrong" - does that mean Fagan did do some things wrong?
 
Golden_6 said:
Pretty much what we've all been saying regarding Dunkley. It's a lifestyle reason and where he'll plan to settle down long term.
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With a couple of subtle drops of "more the on-field stuff and role" and "an offer too good to refuse."

Pick your poison, there are clearly a multitude of reasons and he's playing up the more socially desirable ones.
 

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Libbaaaa said:
I thought he was pretty damn quiet in the 2 finals he played but you watch him against the Saints in round 22 and that performance alone is a huge yes.
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I felt Brisbane might have won the SF last year if he wasn’t out injured. He was in great form up till then.
 
Dannnnnnnnnn said:
With a couple of subtle drops of "more the on-field stuff and role" and "an offer too good to refuse."

Pick your poison, there are clearly a multitude of reasons and he's playing up the more socially desirable ones.
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When you look at it from a non-bias Dogs fan view, there are actually plenty of reasonable reasons to leave. Whether some agree with them or not is personal preference.

A better offer to play a slightly better role in a top 4 team in a more suited lifestyle area.
 

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Louis Butler, Zaine Cordy (unrestricted free agent), Josh Dunkley, Taylor Duryea (unrestricted free agent), Stefan Martin (unrestricted free agent), Charlie Parker, Josh Schache, Mitch Wallis (unrestricted free agent).

Jason Johannisen’s two-year commitment on Monday meant the Dogs moved one step closer to locking away their priority signings. They were unable to convince Dunkley to stay, with the midfielder requesting a trade for the second time in three years – this time to Brisbane. Duryea is tipped to receive a one-year deal, while Cordy has a two-year offer in front of him as he weighs up his options. Rory Lobb’s potential arrival would further eat into Schache’s opportunities and the forward could be playing for a third club in 2023. Martin could be headed for retirement, while the others will have to wait.
 
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Louis Butler, Zaine Cordy (unrestricted free agent), Josh Dunkley, Taylor Duryea (unrestricted free agent), Stefan Martin (unrestricted free agent), Charlie Parker, Josh Schache, Mitch Wallis (unrestricted free agent).

Jason Johannisen’s two-year commitment on Monday meant the Dogs moved one step closer to locking away their priority signings. They were unable to convince Dunkley to stay, with the midfielder requesting a trade for the second time in three years – this time to Brisbane. Duryea is tipped to receive a one-year deal, while Cordy has a two-year offer in front of him as he weighs up his options. Rory Lobb’s potential arrival would further eat into Schache’s opportunities and the forward could be playing for a third club in 2023. Martin could be headed for retirement, while the others will have to wait.
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Martin COULD be headed for retirement. He was done 2 years ago.
 
Charlie Bucket said:
“from what I have had to do with him in such little time he’s such a good human being and he’s really cared for me, and I am looking forward to that relationship and getting up and meeting him”

Lol
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Sure Brissy are rapt with him commenting on the situation, may have had a few too many Pimms at the races launch where he gave the interview.
 

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Charlie Bucket said:
“from what I have had to do with him in such little time he’s such a good human being and he’s really cared for me, and I am looking forward to that relationship and getting up and meeting him”

Lol
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Hopefully Fages can offer Josh and Tippah some family planning advice when needed.
 
Golden_6 said:
Pretty much what we've all been saying regarding Dunkley. It's a lifestyle reason and where he'll plan to settle down long term.
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Nothing to do with $750k p.a.?! Surely you don't think he has disclosed everything in that puff piece?

Default ring-tone on a phone somewhere in Gippsland.
"Hey Josh, Chris Fagan here. We've got a great lifestyle up here, plus I know you have some personal connections to Qld."
"Um, Chris, who do you coach again?"
"Did I mention we can offer $750k p.a. for SIX years?"
"Hang on Chris, I'm just writing this down so Dad and Tippah and Lara and Kyle can approve my decision. You DID say 750 right?
Boy, I'm gonna love Sydney."
"Brisbane, kid, Brisbane."
"Oh yeah, Brisbane, right. Oh boy, wowee, Touk Miller is really friendly on field. Maybe I can do a podcast with him."
"<sigh> Just sign the contract when we send it to your Dad kid. I've got a bit of a situation to deal with here, so if you need anything, ring the club, ok?"
 
Libbaaaa said:
How to say a lot without saying anything at all. $$$.
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"He told the Herald Sun at the TAB Spring Racing launch...

This is the real tell. I doubt that he was at the launch out of the goodness of his heart or an abiding interest in the nags.

Oh, well.
 
Hobdog said:
I mean seriously, if the media ask about the Hawthorn situation you just keep your mouth shut don’t you?


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Agree.

With no details about the allegations other than what is in the media, Dunkley "is confident Chris Fagan will be his coach at the Lions next year" and furthermore:

"He told the Herald Sun at the TAB Spring Racing launch that while Fagan could not go into details about the accusations from First Nations players about conduct in his time at Hawthorn, Dunkley believes will would coach the Lions next year.

“Fages was really good. He is really disappointed and everyone knows that. It’s been on the public record that he has been struggling with it, but he’s a great person and we didn’t talk too much about it. He just wanted to reassure me that he feels like he hasn’t done too much wrong and with the situation that is going on, it’s hard to talk about.

“It definitely didn’t make me second guess. Everyone has backed him in and all the news reports have backed him in, and from what I have had to do with him in such little time he’s such a good human being and he’s really cared for me, and I am looking forward to that relationship and getting up and meeting him.”

Josh Dunkley - the man with his finger on the pulse of current events. Maybe he could do a podcast about it.
 
Lindsay_Gilbee said:
Just read some of the reaction to JJ staying… god some of you are pricks. JJ will be on stuff all now and is a best 22 forward. He’s done well the last two years when on the park.
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Absolutely.

We haven’t moved past JJ at all, he had an injury interrupted start to the year, but is still clearly best 22 and given we’re light on for leg speed, he’s still very much a required player.

Clutch guy in big moments and with a good finals record, we’d have been mad not to keep him with a few good years left.
 
Lex22 said:
Absolutely.

We haven’t moved past JJ at all, he had an injury interrupted start to the year, but is still clearly best 22 and given we’re light on for leg speed, he’s still very much a required player.

Clutch guy in big moments and with a good finals record, we’d have been mad not to keep him with a few good years left.
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Great goal against the swans in 2016. He misses, who knows how that year ends up?
 
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