Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

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I don’t know, if anything I think Collingwood values versatility and flexibility more than us. Frampton has played back, forward and ruck this year. Hoskin-Elliott has played half forward, wing and half back. Howe had a month stint playing forward for some reason. Crisp, Pendlebury and Nick Daicos regularly switch between midfield and half back depending on the match.

They’re recruiting at the end of last season was very good though. Made a PF and knew that the league was wide open and the time to strike was now.

Bobby Hill was a great pickup, him and McCreery are relentless as pressure forwards and is similar to Richmond’s model where the complete focus is defensive acts and whatever comes after that is a bonus.

Not the biggest Dan McStay guy but he played a role for them and was an upgrade in a position of need and meant Cox/Cameron could focus on rucking. He was vital for them in the PF, didn’t look like scoring but he plucked 3 contested marks inside 50, kicked 2.1 and gave them some life.

Last season they were bottom four in differential for contested possessions, centre clearances, stoppage clearances and total clearances, so brought in Tom Mitchell and they bumped all those stats to league average. Credit to Mitchell for parking his ego and playing that team orientated role. He obviously had done it before at Sydney, so no surprise he could do it, but probably not easy going from the man who tries to get it 35-40 times a game to a role player.

Also not the biggest Billy Frampton guy but he was a smart pickup as backline cover who can also chop out in the ruck. Someone needs to tell the higher ups he can’t play forward, I guess Cordy isn’t the worst premiership CHF anymore. He was handy through the year for them though. Moore, Murphy and Howe are going to be the first three selected but its handy having a ready made role player if one of them goes down and the other three are pretty versatile so Frampton can come in for any of them and the others will play down and find the role. It’d probably be a worry if he’s best 22 every week but as a 27th guy on the list who can fill some holes, a nice pick up.
 
We can have our own version of Bobby hill next year in a fitter version of Arty Jones.

Add in Nick Watson and all of a sudden we have great pace next year in the forward line.

We need to ditch plonking one or two non-forwards (like Smith & Macrae) at half forward every week and move away from bit parters like Scott and actually play a full complement of forwards.

Naughton, Marra, Lobb/Darcy, Weightman, Jones/Clarke, Watson and West (as the backup mid).

What that means further up the field is probably Bont, Libba & Smith onball. Treloar wing/on-ball and Macrae anywhere except half forward. I’ll be praying for a rebound year from Macrae as a wing/on-baller.

Recruit as many players as we can that have enough pace not to get exposed defensively and can win their own ball, regardless of which part of the ground they play in.
 

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The more I think about it, the more I get a massive feeling Baz is going to go.
I have no real issue with this if it happens, it might be good for us and for Baz.
I just don't want us r*ped like the Dunkley deal. I'm not out to win trades, I'm all for fair trading.
 
The more I think about it, the more I get a massive feeling Baz is going to go.
I have no real issue with this if it happens, it might be good for us and for Baz.
I just don't want us r*ped like the Dunkley deal. I'm not out to win trades, I'm all for fair trading.
I don't think we would due to his contract.
 
The more I think about it, the more I get a massive feeling Baz is going to go.
I have no real issue with this if it happens, it might be good for us and for Baz.
I just don't want us r*ped like the Dunkley deal. I'm not out to win trades, I'm all for fair trading.

The recent media appearances seem like a bit of a public buttering up ahead of a move to me. There’s some Dunkley Mk II about it.

Our balls deep trade for 4 would make a bit more sense if we’re getting 8 and an F1 for Smith and something.
 
The recent media appearances seem like a bit of a public buttering up ahead of a move to me. There’s some Dunkley Mk II about it.

Our balls deep trade for 4 would make a bit more sense if we’re getting 8 and an F1 for Smith and something.

All wouldn't be lost imo.

4 first rounds this year- two in the top 10. Likely one in the top 5.

Could build our midfield/forward for quick success.
 
The recent media appearances seem like a bit of a public buttering up ahead of a move to me. There’s some Dunkley Mk II about it.

Our balls deep trade for 4 would make a bit more sense if we’re getting 8 and an F1 for Smith and something.
Hope not, but fair point about the trade push.

If it had to happen with the rumoured clubs, then the trades I'd want would be either:

  • Hawthorn for 3 (5)
  • Geelong for 7 (10?) and F1

Taking 3 and 4 (5 and 6) together would be fun - McKercher and Watson combo would be great.

Geelong's first this year is in a good place for us too as definitely before Croft.
 
Dogs haven't offered Mclean a contract yet

Sad for Toby - could have been anything but injures cruelled him.

However, not signing him yet is good list management - I’m not even convinced we should keep him on should there be spots available post the trading period.


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Have it on reasonable authority there is quite a lot going on in the background both on the assistants front and the list management front. We do have some targets but they haven’t made the press. Make of that what you will.

New Coaching Structure:

Senior Coach: Luke Beveridge
Midfield Coach: L Beveridge
Forwards Coach: Luke B
Defensive Coach: Bevo
Development Coach: Lukey "Bevo" Beveridge

:p
 
Will say it again, if the noise about Smith and Cats has any legs then I want Max Holmes . He can jump on a wing and has pace to burn. Maybe swap of 1sts with it 10 for 7.

Then have Jacko, Bont , Ads and Libba as main mids. Throw in Weightman now and then, Daniel, West and I’m still thinking Bedendo and Garcia can come good with some luck. We tend to forget about them but both have shown a bit but injuries stagnating growth.

After saying all that, I’m not pushing to get rid of Smith but not retaining either for just 1 year and the distractions associated with it.
 
New Coaching Structure:

Senior Coach: Luke Beveridge
Midfield Coach: L Beveridge
Forwards Coach: Luke B
Defensive Coach: Bevo
Development Coach: Lukey "Bevo" Beveridge

:p
Also understand we’ve found a nuggety half forward with massive guns called Lucas Beverage. Understand he doesn’t like the whole media aspect much so may not hear much from him during the season.
 
Have it on reasonable authority there is quite a lot going on in the background both on the assistants front and the list management front. We do have some targets but they haven’t made the press. Make of that what you will.

We seem to have been saying this for weeks now. Meanwhile, all the clubs around us have moved and appointed assistants.
 
We seem to have been saying this for weeks now. Meanwhile, all the clubs around us have moved and appointed assistants.
They have announced their assistants. We may be waiting till our B & F to announce many assistants

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Have it on reasonable authority there is quite a lot going on in the background both on the assistants front and the list management front. We do have some targets but they haven’t made the press. Make of that what you will.
I should add - the sentiment expressed by many here that they’re happy for Lipinski and LOL Dunkley is also widely held in the club.
 
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