Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[weltschmerz]

We’ve brought in two very defensively minded players this trade period, don’t mind it at all.

 

[hatescaptcha]

Sweet done for 50.

Better than nothing which he could’ve left for.


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[The Inbetweener]

Wondering if we are going to try and roll any of these into future picks, we don’t have enough list spots to take them all to the draft

 

[hatescaptcha]

Wondering if we are going to try and roll any of these into future picks, we don’t have enough list spots to take them all to the draft

We haven’t resigned crozier, smith or Bedendo just yet.


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[SPower]

Who is the VFl ruck as Darcy will play some 1sts footy 2024.
Maybe drag a basketballer or mature lad as a project type.
Chrs

 

[Foxman98]

Who is the VFl ruck as Darcy will play some 1sts footy 2024.
Maybe drag a basketballer or mature lad as a project type.
Chrs

Draft a mature state league one

 

[Testekill]

We could end up with a decent third pick if the Croft bid isn't too early

Would be perfect to use that pick on Lual.

 

[Ash1337]

Power chatting now.

 

[TedDougChris]

Power chatting now.

A summary would be most helpful - I’m currently in an online argument meeting

 

[St 07]

A summary would be most helpful - I’m currently in an online argument meeting

Shit hot trade period from the Dogs, dominated and looking forward to an easy year

 

[TedDougChris]

s**t hot trade period from the Dogs, dominated and looking forward to an easy year

Was Bevo wearing his S Power mask ?? Or was Power channeling his inner Dodo ???

 

[Mojorisin]

A summary would be most helpful - I’m currently in an online argument meeting

Looking forward to Coffield getting a full pre season. Harmes to play Half forward or wing. Croft has versatility and could play back or Ruck if he doesn't play forward.

 

[TedDougChris]

Looking forward to Coffield getting a full pre season. Harmes to play Half forward or wing. Croft has versatility and could play back or Ruck if he doesn't play forward.

Thanks !!

 

[weltschmerz]

Sweet getting a warm cloemwe to Port

 

[Mojorisin]

Geelong "won" the Ratugolea trade.
They got power to add 76 & 94 on top of their offer of 25. Lucky they held out an extra week.

 

[TedDougChris]

Geelong "won" the Ratugolea trade.
They got power to add 76 & 94 on top of their offer of 25. Lucky they held out an extra week.

That has to be worth an extra 6 draft index points !! Well worth hanging out for !!!

 

[Dogs Rule]

Sweet getting a warm cloemwe to Port

Welcome home Jordon. We'll stuff you around in the SANFL all year.

 

[TedDougChris]

Just checked - Picks 74 onwards have no value - so they held out for two picks with no value and they won’t use !!

What ****ing muppets !!!

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Looking forward to Coffield getting a full pre season. Harmes to play Half forward or wing. Croft has versatility and could play back or Ruck if he doesn't play forward.

Harmes will absolutely be an onballer. He attended centre bounces every game he played this year, and we struggled to mix and match combinations of Macrae, Daniel and Smith last year, which you can interpret that we didn't want to play any of those three at centre bounces but were forced to simply because we didn't have anyone else. Onballer being the 3 mids who attend the centre bounce rotation - I anticipate those 3 other players will still be "better" around the midfield and given more responsibility and in between the arcs in general play - but it's clear that we were uncertain who was going to be our centre bounce rotation players after Libba, Treloar and Bont. Hell, in R23 win we gave 8 centre bounces to a bloke we just delisted, and 11 to a bloke who is better as a small forward and didn't attend a single centre bounce before that round. It's tough/defensive cover that we sorely missed without Dunkley last year, and while I hope that the 4th midfield spot will be filled by a back-to-form Macrae or Smith, we still need to rotate a 5th player in there for 5-10 centre bounces a game even if everyone is fit.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Geelong "won" the Ratugolea trade.
They got power to add 76 & 94 on top of their offer of 25. Lucky they held out an extra week.

Mackie the new Dodoro. Seriously, what a knob.

 

[dergert]

So this is meant to end at 7:30 yeah?

Lol apocalyptic ending with BZT and Duursma coming up

 

[threenewpadlocks]

These accumulation of points are effectively worth a pick in the late teens.

So effectively:

Pick 11 and future first for Pick 5, Harmes and Coffield
"Break Up" Pick 18 for equivalent points value with later picks.

I think that's somewhat acceptable, even if most teams often do better jobs at breaking up picks value.

But that's only half the battle - getting a pick ahead of any potential Croft bid is the game.

You get the 20% discount.

So we're going to get a top 5 player and a top-end talent, just by manipulating the points around draft picks.

We did something similar with JUH, and while it can leave your list depth exposed (see Darcy and JUH eating up the picks), it still is moneyball-economics the best way of building a list.

It's such a rort, and the AFL needs to fix it. We've been a somewhat successful team over the last 5 years, but at the same time, been able to bring in 4-5 top-end talent players at the same time, simply because the AFL hasn't updated a mathematics formula they came up with over 10 years ago.

Maybe our execution of maximising points wasn't 100% as clean as some other teams have done it, but I'd rather the fact that we execute it early and at least 90% as effective, leaving us open to dedicate our time to other rorts (see Treloar).

 

[weltschmerz]

So this is meant to end at 7:30 yeah?

Lol apocalyptic ending with BZT and Duursma coming up

And Port has no more picks this draft after the Ratugolea trade. Literally nothing before pick 112.

 

[Tommycash]

Wondering if we are going to try and roll any of these into future picks, we don’t have enough list spots to take them all to the draft

Won't some of them be absorbed in the bid for Croft (2 or 4, idfk), so that we will really have a fair few less picks than it currently looks?

 

[Mojorisin]

Harmes will absolutely be an onballer. He attended centre bounces every game he played this year, and we struggled to mix and match combinations of Macrae, Daniel and Smith last year, which you can interpret that we didn't want to play any of those three at centre bounces but were forced to simply because we didn't have anyone else. Onballer being the 3 mids who attend the centre bounce rotation - I anticipate those 3 other players will still be "better" around the midfield and given more responsibility and in between the arcs in general play - but it's clear that we were uncertain who was going to be our centre bounce rotation players after Libba, Treloar and Bont. Hell, in R23 win we gave 8 centre bounces to a bloke we just delisted, and 11 to a bloke who is better as a small forward and didn't attend a single centre bounce before that round. It's tough/defensive cover that we sorely missed without Dunkley last year, and while I hope that the 4th midfield spot will be filled by a back-to-form Macrae or Smith, we still need to rotate a 5th player in there for 5-10 centre bounces a game even if everyone is fit.

Just repeating what was said on trade radio.