Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Nat Fyfe]

Here you go lads, great public forum to ask Baz if his leaving or not.

(Not that I'm advocating for anyone to go and actually do this, seems to be a weird thing to do, 1:1 fan engagement of a club you want to leave, specially the day after your exit interview)

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I went to the open training last year before the Freo final, and one of the most active players with the fans was Dunks. Had quick chats with a ton of people, signing everything, and was one of the last to leave, and look how that turned out

 

[adogsfan5]

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

But I heard that everyone hates everyone?

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Will be very, very happy to keep both Treloar and Smith. And everyone else that people are suggesting to piss off.

As awesome as Liber and Treloar have been this year they don’t have long left. Give Bailey the starting mid spot next year and let him get back to his arrogant best.

 

[0utsider]

You probably best to ask the coach !
He seems to have come to the conclusion as well they needed to reinvent themselves.

Not sure I trust his opinion on the matter any more

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

As much as he hasn’t done much in his career I’m still trying to get denver grainger-barras. He was compared to Naughton in the draft. I’d much rather go him over another year of Obrien.

Jones, JOD and potentially sounds a lot better than what we role with atm.

 

[mattwa]

Great news. Suck on that Caro

 

[Golden_6]

It's early days but it looks like the playing group may stick together at this point for next season bar any unexpected issues.

This could be the most important offseason the club has had that I can remember (including the Griffen/McCartney fiasco). If the club doesn't get it right off-field and things go pear shaped next season, the re-signings of Naughton, English, JUH & Smith become extremely problematic.

 

[weltschmerz]

sources

 

[BrisDog]

Bombshell report? Wow wee, the click bait these days

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Best to avoid that website. It hasn’t reported a ‘news’ article in many a year. I blame news.com.au on the general decline of Australia’s intellect. The sooner the owner croaks the better.

 

[cleveland]

Take this with a grain of salt. But was told last night, Lobby will be at the saints next year.

 

[Bulldogs85]

No one should EVER Believe a word coming from that muppet Sam Edmund again

 

[Foxman98]

Take this with a grain of salt. But was told last night, Lobby will be at the saints next year.

Please god no I can't go back to Buku as the back up

 

[_Mike_]

No one should EVER Believe a word coming from that muppet Sam Edmund again

That's an insult to the muppets

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Dunno why people believe a certain poster when they claim to be ITK when they’re wrong 99% of the time

 

[Unorth]

Good post

But I like “ a leopard never changes his spots” better

Considering Jakes unfortunate tattoo, I think a Lion is really the big cat analogy I should have gone with.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Beveridge is far from perfect but I’m not sure him pissing off Stringer is a mark on his name.

18-30 year old men who have a ****load of money do bad stuff, when a dressing room of those people want you gone it says a lot.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Also, there’s dickhead and there’s dickheads. The club has had this own “dickheads” in a young Liber / Smith who did stupid shit but they also have never had their commitment to training and the club questioned. Stringer is almost 30 and still doesn’t have the fitness to run out a game.

We got Ed from that trade. Massive win.

 

[Unnamed1]

I would imagine there will be a lot of loyalty from Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

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185cm

Wt

86kg

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M/F

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18.3

5star

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8.5

3star

HB

9.8

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M

2.3

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3.8

5star

CL

2.7

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D

19.8

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9.6

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10.2

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1.8

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3.2

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3.2

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14.8

4star

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7.6

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7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

. He'll know how much the club has helped him, and all of his mates are at the club. I'm (not) surprised the media constantly throws everything at the feet of the coach. Take Cordy for example - he's got a few years left, probably got offered $80k more and better tenure. Can you blame him from taking the cash? Hunter - clearly had off-field issues, and needed a new start. But it's all Bevo's problem right? And Dunkley - I'm convinced there was a falling out with the playing group, rather than the coaches.

 

[NthBondiDoggies]

So what is our prediction:

Clubs will smell some blood and come hard At Naughton, English and Smith and knowing the turds at Essendope let’s assume they go after Marra also. Where we sit today - looks like all will stay which will be great for us but given they are contracted it should be that way. No-one would be surprised if Smith asked for a trade - the young fella is not at his best - but hopefully he sees a good preseason with none of the previous crap as what he needs. Next year will be much harder so it is the contract extensions that matter. Any other club would have then all signed for long periods if they could.

Williams is quiet, uncontracted and not playing that well - is he RFA or UFA? He won’t attract a lot but I bet a club looking for a HBF will offer him an ability to play where he has played best. Unfortunately for him Red is just better for us, we also have Crozier and Cleary coming through. He must be at risk and we can’t pay too much to keep him given he is just middling for us. Would be a good for for a few clubs.

West may be the biggest loss this season. He is not contracted and has been left out of the side - obvious he has the ability - only scratching the surface of his potential. This year is effectively the first year he has been given an extended run (sone good games last year) and with Father Time catching Libba - he is critical to our future. I hope we back him.

Sweet is most obvious - at West Coast he plays most weeks. Probably Swans also and would suit their contested style. I don’t want to lose him but only playing by injury and the maybe then falling behind Lobb and Darcy is not appealing.

Crozier - would be expected to leave - he has ability and won’t play much here. TOB - I think is contracted for next year but we would probably drive him to another club.

McComb probably delisted but would swap for Sullivan if that can be pulled off. Chatfield is great but not a need - his marking is good but who goes out for him.

Hannan is a favourite of Bevos but probably time to move on - I had expected he would play wing where we have a need and his manic play may work but this was not tried. HBF experiment was a disaster.

I hope we keep McLean (backup for Libba), Raak and Khamis (still don’t have that third medium-tall forward or back) and McNeil (Prefer Artie in same role and could be passed by Charlie Gardiner

Charlie Gardiner

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41

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190cm

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90kg

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Fwd

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10.2

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6.3

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3.9

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4.4

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1.4

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0.5

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6.6

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2.4

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0.2

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though and hasn’t shown he can impact so could let him go). Bedendo on talent and need should be retained.

Roarke - like McLean is good enough and he has shown that in big games his ceiling is well above what many thought - I like him but would certainly be a risk.

Expect 4 to come in by draft - hopefully

Pick 10-14
Pick 17-21
Croft
Pick 33

If Croft is bid before 21 as is likely then not sure how it works out. Also is we are pushed back with academies - do we still get the same points or are our points reduced.

Our future list looks strong forward, OK back but weak on Mids - with only Smith, West and García looking good - that is a least 3 players short. So hopefully at least 2 of the 4 drafted are Mids. A big one and a fast one.

Will likely attempt to also trade/UFA in a wing, ruck and KPD (though seems 10 clubs are looking for same KPD). If not may go further in draft to get a roughy

 

[King Harold]

Best to avoid that website. It hasn’t reported a ‘news’ article in many a year. I blame news.com.au on the general decline of Australia’s intellect. The sooner the owner croaks the better.

Its where you go to get dumber

 

[House_of_Dahl]

A good winger would not only solve an area of weakness but could have other flow on benefits. Williams back to his best position in defence and Richards to the middle?

 

[Dogman 1]

Macrae has never shown himself to be anything other than a pure midfielder, while Daniels best football came off half back.

We were at our best with them in those positions and thats where they should be again going forward.

Lohmann is a natural in that role and if we picked him up would probably be the only non-makeshift high half forward on the list.

To make our side better from round 1 next year all players need to be settled in their best position and bevo needs to make moves to suit the club, ie move Naughton back even for 15 mins to help stem the flow of goals we always give up.

 

[Beasht]

Great player management 101.

Drum up interest in your client, gauge interest, gives him a fresh year in 2024 to lift his game where his value will be sky high knowing that he will be out of contract.

The law of the worst thing than being talked about, is not being talked about.

 

[Unorth]

Baz’ management have given us a fright into probably playing him more in the middle next year. That’s better for his own career. They also know if he nominates a team that can’t satisfy us in a trade it’s going to be an arduous offseason and 2024 and probably not the best for his mental health. They just saw that we got bent over with Dunkley because he was out of contract - much better to wait the year. We should also hopefully draft one or two very talented mids but at present it would be insane to trade him considering our midfield profile.

I’ll believe Baz wants to be here when he signs. I don’t buy that he was sick. Hope we keep him.