Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[MaxiBont]

Could we really expect much more than that from an out of contract player coming off an ACL and a declining Jack Macrae on big money with 3 years left and wanting to leave.

It seems reasonable to me .

 

[Doggies7]

17, 25, 35, 48 is a solid draft hand for this draft while having all of our future picks also and a ton of cap space. Not the worst position to be in.

 

[Mutt]

Anybody still believe that PSD or ND actually holds any leverage during trade negotiations?

We got more than 17 for Smith. We had a shit hand and used the threat of the draft as part of the leverage we tried to create. The draft threat was unlikely to be implemented, but the alternative was to say nothing and accept 17 from Geelong.

 

[Sentinel]

So measured by draft points (a crude way to measure it, I know) Geelong handed over the equivalent of pick 15 for Smith.

 

[Generation West]

Not really a melt, just a simple observation.

We should be aiming for top 4/flag. Collingwood & Hawks have both been aggressive to get back to that point, we were absolutely nowhere near being in that conversation along with them.

Just not really a fan to be going into next year which is mostly hopeful for internal development to push us to the next level, also being reliant on luck with injuries - especially in defence.

Mate, Collingwood were average this year. They recruited a gun HB Flanker, which is not a position of need for them. Look at their forward line. They have solid small representation, but no key forwards apart from Mihocek. They have no draft capital this year or next year and need to make a play for someone like Darcy or JUH.

 

[Doggy]

17, 25, 35, 48 is a solid draft hand for this draft while having all of our future picks also and a ton of cap space. Not the worst position to be in.

3 senior players down, Kennedy in.

I know people think that's ok, but geez.

The only trade we did well out of was Caleb. And we absolutely should not have let both he and Macrae go.

 

[weltschmerz]

We got rooted. Thank god that's the end of it for the year.

 

[Struggle]

Thank God that trade period is over. We can now start working on the Butters 2025 deal

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Anybody still believe that PSD or ND actually holds any leverage during trade negotiations?

It was through that leverage that we upgraded 45 to 38.

Basically nothing but still something.

 

[theAthenian]

im really happy we off loaded CD and Macrae (saves salary cap for next year)
Smith is a coke head fck him (hope he becomes a menzel)
Kennnedy a great pickup
well done Sam Power

Sam Power

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.8

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.6

4star

 

[Doggy]

It was through that leverage that we upgraded 45 to 38.

Basically nothing but still something.

Then overpaid by sending it to Carltank for Kennedy

 

[yebach]

Sam I'll huff and I'll puff and they'll call my bluff Power.

 

[Chadley]

Not really a melt, just a simple observation.

We should be aiming for top 4/flag. Collingwood & Hawks have both been aggressive to get back to that point, we were absolutely nowhere near being in that conversation along with them.

Just not really a fan to be going into next year which is mostly hopeful for internal development to push us to the next level, also being reliant on luck with injuries - especially in defence.

It's 100% a melt because your comparing us to teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn who have always been able to recruit big names. I'm not sure if you've followed bulldogs that long but the likes of Houston, Barass, Perryman would be some of the biggest recruits in the clubs history.

 

[W W Biscuit]

I don't want this to end.

What could we get for JUH and Sanders next trade period?

Pick 35 and Charlie Dixon?

 

[Dogs Rule]

Would love to know how XOH fell through. Thought it was dependent on Stringer. Guess not.

 

[Rookie]

Now that's over, let's clear up the most important issue...

With the deal being more-or-less Kennedy for Macrae, and with Kennedy being 27 with a three year contract, it seems the years we get from Kennedy will be the final package of the gift that was Jordan McMahon

Jordan Mcmahon

Age

41

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

0.6

3star

.

Unless we can get him to 100 games for the future F/S as well...

 

[Doggies7]

Hopefully not getting XOH means there will be a list spot for Charlie Clarke still.

 

[ossie_21]

Haha saying "we may as well fold the club" is absolutely a melt, come on...

Yeah that was a bit extreme, but the point remains. If we don’t have something big planned for next year, wtf are we even doing?

I think we’ve wasted enough of the prime years of the best player our club has ever had and haven’t been pro-active enough, this years trade period is just another of them.

I know we have some young guns coming through, but they also need help

 

[Next Waiting]

Pick 35 and Charlie Dixon?

A bit of wiggle room there.

 

[geoffjennings79]

So it's over? And we did what now...?!

 

[dergert]

I'm confused.
What picks do we have?

 

[Mofra]

Mate, Collingwood were average this year. They recruited a gun HB Flanker, which is not a position of need for them. Look at their forward line. They have solid small representation, but no key forwards apart from Mihocek. They have no draft capital this year or next year and need to make a play for someone like Darcy or JUH.

McStay?

 

[Ash1337]

Out Ryp/AOD, Smith, Daniel, Macrae, Bedendo, Keath
In Kennedy 17 25 35 48 DFA/Rookie/SPP

 

[Norm De Guerre]

We got more than 17 for Smith. We had a shit hand and used the threat of the draft as part of the leverage we tried to create. The draft threat was unlikely to be implemented, but the alternative was to say nothing and accept 17 from Geelong.

It was through that leverage that we upgraded 45 to 38.

Basically nothing but still something.

Keep telling yourselves that.

We essentially got the deal that we were always going to get.

Geelong's first and a shuffling of later picks.

Geelongs posturing about pick 17 alone was just that. Posturing.

 

[doggiesin08]

It was through that leverage that we upgraded 45 to 38.

Basically nothing but still something.

I would actually say it was through the very small chance that he doesn't get to Geelong through the ND that we got that minor upgrade. It was through the very large and real threat of him getting Geelong anyway through the ND that we more generally got ****ed in the trade. The PSD / ND draft threat is very real, it just very sensibly gets priced into the deals.