Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Fossie 32]

Not top 10

He didn't play until King's Birthday because of a preseason shoulder injury, so missed half the season. Don't think he had a great 2023 to be honest, definitely the worst of his years, and was probably lucky to keep his spot for the GF but had a solid game GF day

Ta - yes, still good enough to be picked every week until he was sub in the GF

 

[Proffessor]

A 4-way trade I wouldn't mind.

Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

(Port) to the Dogs.
Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

(Suns) to Port
John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

(Pies) plus a draft Pick to Suns
Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

(Dogs) to the Pies (where he can hang out with his mate Nick Daicos)

Geelong left out in the cold.

 

[dergert]

This makes me physically ill.

 

[Doggy]

This makes me physically ill.

Wet toast being rogered in a big way

 

[DannyB4]

Hah good facts for those on here who don’t rate Lipi. Where did he finish in 23?

He left because he couldn't get a game in our midfield. In what universe would he ever get a game before Bont, Macca, Libba, Dunkley and Smith? When Treloar came in the writing was on the wall. He was at the very least our 7th choice mid and he knew his future was in the VFL if he stayed.

I have no ill will towards him leaving but you can't think that him leaving is a bad mark on our list management. He might be decent at the Pies but he just wasn't good enough for our midfield in 2019-2021.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Wet toast being rogered in a big way

If it’s just 12 and 14 I agree but surely they get steak knives as well. You’d want a future 2nd or something as well.

 

[Golden_6]

If it’s just 12 and 14 I agree but surely they get steak knives as well. You’d want a future 2nd or something as well.

You have to also take into consideration the depth of the draft. It might be better to take two kids in the top 15 or so rather than one in the top 5 if there apparently isn’t huge top talent but good depth in the first round.

 

[bobs head soup]

You have to also take into consideration the depth of the draft. It might be better to take two kids in the top 15 or so rather than one in the top 5 if there apparently isn’t huge top talent but good depth in the first round.

Fair point, except that WCE are using one of 12/14 on Liam Baker

Admittedly, full details are yet to be released but does look like a shocker for the Eagles.

Fair to say their board isn't overly impressed. Good reading over there.

 

[VitalDread]

A 4-way trade I wouldn't mind.

Dan Houston (Port) to the Dogs.
Jack Lukosius (Suns) to Port
John Noble (Pies) plus a draft Pick to Suns
Bailey Smith (Dogs) to the Pies (where he can hang out with his mate Nick Daicos)

Geelong left out in the cold.

We were never really in the Houston race
We had a quick meeting and he already said no a while back

It's Blues or SA imo

 

[Fossie 32]

He left because he couldn't get a game in our midfield. In what universe would he ever get a game before Bont, Macca, Libba, Dunkley and Smith? When Treloar came in the writing was on the wall. He was at the very least our 7th choice mid and he knew his future was in the VFL if he stayed.

I have no ill will towards him leaving but you can't think that him leaving is a bad mark on our list management. He might be decent at the Pies but he just wasn't good enough for our midfield in 2019-2021.

I know but some people seem to say he’s not that good generally when he is doing well in a side that won a flag eg whoever said he is a vfl player at the Pies
Edit oops soz I see that was you

 

[Cadillac]

All our competitors in the 8 and pushing ahead to gain better draft capital and also bring in talent from other clubs to improve their lists.

Can someone explain what our plan has been so far? Where is our improvement going to be coming from by sitting on our hands and pushing depth like Macrae out and losing Baz?

 

[iambrilliant]

We were never really in the Houston race
We had a quick meeting and he already said no a while back

It's Blues or SA imo

He will be at Collingwood

 

[Fossie 32]

We were never really in the Houston race
We had a quick meeting and he already said no a while back

It's Blues or SA imo

Going to Pies I heard on aw

 

[Dale4captain]

All our competitors in the 8 and pushing ahead to gain better draft capital and also bring in talent from other clubs to improve their lists.

Can someone explain what our plan has been so far? Where is our improvement going to be coming from by sitting on our hands and pushing depth like Macrae out and losing Baz?

Unless you want the club to settle on a shit deal for Baz, Daniel or Macca and expedite the picks we get, what exactly would you like us to do? We offered every bit of trade capital we had (F1 + F2) for pick 13 from the GC already. It appears it’s been well and truly gazumped.

Don’t just make shit negative woe is us posts. Suggest how we’d actually improve.

 

[MaxiBont]

I’m so confused, how on earth did Carlton manage to get pick 3!!???

 

[bobs head soup]

All our competitors in the 8 and pushing ahead to gain better draft capital and also bring in talent from other clubs to improve their lists.

Can someone explain what our plan has been so far? Where is our improvement going to be coming from by sitting on our hands and pushing depth like Macrae out and losing Baz?

I'm in the minority, but if the net result of this offseason is losing Smith, Macrae and Daniel, taking 4 picks inside of 40 to a deep/even draft, improve our 2025 hand and free up $2mill of cap space, I'd be happy with where we are at.

 

[grassman75]

He left because he couldn't get a game in our midfield. In what universe would he ever get a game before Bont, Macca, Libba, Dunkley and Smith? When Treloar came in the writing was on the wall. He was at the very least our 7th choice mid and he knew his future was in the VFL if he stayed.

I have no ill will towards him leaving but you can't think that him leaving is a bad mark on our list management. He might be decent at the Pies but he just wasn't good enough for our midfield in 2019-2021.

Same applies to Baz, but he wanted it now and wasn’t prepared to wait his turn, then did his knee

 

[grassman75]

Unless you want the club to settle on a shit deal for Baz, Daniel or Macca and expedite the picks we get, what exactly would you like us to do? We offered every bit of trade capital we had (F1 + F2) for pick 13 from the GC already. It appears it’s been well and truly gazumped.

Don’t just make shit negative woe is us posts. Suggest how we’d actually improve.

**** yes….fist pumping response….love it.


Expecting the response to be Sack Bevo for Gia or Cameron

Or why don’t we get Owies in the same breath that bags VDM and McNeil

 

[grassman75]

Did anyone hear the Geel numpty talking to Derwayne yesterday and they started talking about possibly trading out SDK.

The numpty says to Derwayne, not a chance for anything less than two first rounders.

Is that just the go to for every supporter now when rating players of their own?

Here’s pick 17 (21) take it or leave it for Smith - wait, you want SDK…that will be two first rounders.

On marketability alone Smith is worth more….i can’t even tell SDK apart from about 4 other headband wearing blond Surfin look alike players….vanilla….he had a bit of difference when he channeled Jim Carrey in The Mask, but that’s about it

 

[Golden_6]

We need to remember that Smith, Macrae & Daniel didn’t contribute to our on field performance in 2024. Macrae & Daniel played a handful of decent performances between them and there’s no reason why guys like Sanders & Harmes can’t effectively play those half forward/mid rotations well in 2025.

Even though we aren’t necessarily improving our list via trade acquisitions, the club is banking on the internal improvement of our excellent youth (which there is a considerable amount) and hopefully bringing in another few top 30 rated kids.

We’re clearly balancing the future with the present given the priorities that Bevo took in 2024.

 

[Proffessor]

We were never really in the Houston race
We had a quick meeting and he already said no a while back

It's Blues or SA imo

Probably true, but it would be a worth an attempt.

 

[Fossie 32]

Rumour file caller on AW says Baz has been given #3 and already signing jumpers

 

[Proffessor]

I'm in the minority, but if the net result of this offseason is losing Smith, Macrae and Daniel, taking 4 picks inside of 40 to a deep/even draft, improve our 2025 hand and free up $2mill of cap space, I'd be happy with where we are at.

I’d be happy to keep what we have.

 

[Westerndog11]

Anyone feel like breadcrumbs for dinner?

So he’s admitting now that 17 alone isn’t fair and Geelong needs to consider more. Well done Jonny, you get a gold star.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

surely the eagles aren’t trading pick 3…