Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Foxman98]

Who would you have liked us to go out and get this off season?

We still have the draft to go as well, this melodramatic stuff is so boring

Happens every trade period where there’s 1-2 “big” players move each year yet magically we are supposed to trade for them all

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Isn't Kennedy just Harmes all over again?
We already have one of those stinking up our list.

Odd take - Harmes was on fire prior to his injury.

He was crap in the final but so was everyone (at least Harmes had the excuse of being his first game back to AFL after only one VFL game).

 

[stevieg1969]

If you’re not happy with the way our trade period is heading go and read the comments in the PA board. I don’t think they’re too fond of trading in Rory Atkins

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Rory Atkins

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30

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185cm

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82kg

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19.9

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12.1

4star

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7.9

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4.6

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1.9

4star

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367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

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4.0

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0.3

1star

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2.7

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147.7

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14.2

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8.8

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5.4

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4.0

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1.2

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217.8

4star

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[_Cerberus_]

Out Baz Daniel macrae

In Kennedy

I need a job where this is the bar for a productive years work

In a year where we bombed out in an elimination final you can’t spin to me that this isn’t a poor off season.

We’ll free up cap space but have proven we can’t attract talent anyway

As a member I want more from the club

To trade for big names, we need good draft picks. We do not have that.

None of the big names on the move, aside from Houston we even had a chance at, as they all largely went interstate.
Houston is late 20s, and we would have blown our remaining draft capital, to bring him in. Leaving us with zero ways to bring in some A and B tier draft talent. Which will see us fall down hard when Libba and Treloar retire the next year and two. We need to balance bringing players in, as well as hitting the draft.

If you're happy to share what moves you think we should have made and with what?

 

[House_of_Dahl]

I asked one of the kids what he thinks about us trading Kennedy.

He shrugged and said - "meh Temu Dunkley for the depth role at half the cost of Macrae, makes sense."

Ha- probs fair enough!

 

[immortalmike]

Odd take - Harmes was on fire prior to his injury.

He was crap in the final but so was everyone (at least Harmes had the excuse of being his first game back to AFL after only one VFL game).

Was he though? Or did he just have a couple of good games after a trash early season then regress back to the mean in the final?

Either way I'm not sure we need another.

 

[adogsfan5]

Jesus big day for us tomorrow haha..

 

[threenewpadlocks]

If you’re not happy with the way our trade period is heading go and read the comments in the PA board. I don’t think they’re too fond of trading in Rory Atkins.

Honestly cannot believe that Gold Coast turned around what was initially looking like yet another bad deal for them to them getting off the salary of two overpaid players next year (Luko and Atkins).

Throw in a Bows (as much as they coughed up a pick 7 they did it for a reason) and no doubt their ability to navigate the market is looking a lot better than it has been.

How they ever got themselves into that mess - paying for players that by definition were not good enough because they weren't getting them into finals - is anyone's guess but they've probably extracted themselves out of it over a few years as well as any club reasonably could.

 

[Foxman98]

Odd take - Harmes was on fire prior to his injury.

He was crap in the final but so was everyone (at least Harmes had the excuse of being his first game back to AFL after only one VFL game).

Before injury

R8 21 disposals 7 tackles
R9 27 disposals 4 goals
R10 18 disposals 2 goals
R11 22 disposals 1 goal

Gave good midfield depth and started kicking goals not sure how that was crap

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Happens every trade period where there’s 1-2 “big” players move each year yet magically we are supposed to trade for them all

People are getting upset that by definition we should be only trading for the biggest player or two in a given offsesaon (which I think Houston fits) every 10-15 years.

Tom Boyd was 10 years ago, for context.

 

[kleptomjc]

Jesus big day for us tomorrow haha..

I've often wondered if one or two big trades are done early, then the AFL head office put NDAs in place to protect a "down to the wire" and "bumper last day" vibe to maximise interest across the week (or 9 days or whatever).

But agree - big day tomorrow for us....interesting to see how it pans out.

 

[Martyn_30_]

Imagine five years ago someone from the future coming back in time to let you how the team was looking heading into 2025. Lobb and Liam Jones

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Liam Jones

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9.4

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6.5

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2.9

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4.3

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2.0

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134.5

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7.6

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6.1

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1.4

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4.1

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1.4

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116.3

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9.4

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7.4

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2.0

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4.0

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2.2

4star

as the key defenders, Dale as the star half back, Richards the most promising midfielder for the future, Treloar, Harmes and Matt Kennedy on the list, Smith, Dunkley, Macrae, and Daniel all traded but things still very promising for the next season.

The concept of planning in list management has become a lot more short term than it used to be.


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[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Sorry all - Kennedy deal has hit a snag. I may have gone too early and upset everyone.

 

[Ash1337]

Sharp has been traded to Dees.

 

[Doggies_13]

Is there still the embargo tomorrow until like 2pm where no trades can be submitted or announced

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

Harmes and Kennedy will be an elite combo in the 2s next year.

Dad's army VFL team.

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

But a Bulldogs bigfooty poster who has never seen him play before told me he was trash.

I would like to know what collateral we have given up for Kennedy before I jump on the bandwagon with you.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Sorry all - Kennedy deal has hit a snag. I may have gone too early and upset everyone.

Was contingent on something else happening .. which hasn’t happened (I’m assuming McRae? )

 

[TiAn_]

Sorry all - Kennedy deal has hit a snag. I may have gone too early and upset everyone.

Ah well, Melts about Kennedy at least were new and interesting compared to melts about Smith

 

[Doggies7]

Sorry all - Kennedy deal has hit a snag. I may have gone too early and upset everyone.

Thanks i've already ordered my custom Kennedy jersey too. You better pray we land him still or one of the Josh's come out of retirement.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Thanks i've already ordered my custom Kennedy jersey too. You better pray we land him still or one of the Josh's come out of retirement.

Will you settle for a Hayden Kennedy?

See! He fits right in!

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Sorry all - Kennedy deal has hit a snag. I may have gone too early and upset everyone.

Dont worry. People were already upset before you dropped a dime.

Its what we do.

 

[Ash1337]

Was contingent on something else happening .. which hasn’t happened (I’m assuming McRae? )

Could be that deal was going to be 3 ways with F2/32 for both Kemp & Kennedy and trying to trade 45 & Kennedy to dogs.

 

[Next Waiting]

Sorry all - Kennedy deal has hit a snag. I may have gone too early and upset everyone.

You SOB. Just as we were all beginning to cope

 

[F6Typhoon]

If you’re not happy with the way our trade period is heading go and read the comments in the PA board. I don’t think they’re too fond of trading in Rory Atkins.

I know Rory… Local Maribyrnong Park kid. All his suitcases have heavy duty wheels.. Adelaide, Gold Coast, and now Adelaide again (Port)
Talk about a “journey man”