Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[RWnBluey]

Mail has been accurate before.

Different source with the Butters one. Very reliable around dogs. Also said we offered Sam De Koning a 6-year deal which i found suprising.

We will hit free agency hard next year. If we a confident we can land one, I can see us trading out next years first rounder to slide up draft this year

Not doubting your mail but how can we trade in Butters next year if we trade out our first rounder to move up this year? He’ll still be in contract, we’re going to need those first rounders

 

[RWnBluey]

I can 100% say that Butters isn't coming to Bulldogs

Well this just tops off a great day.

 

[yebach]

Mail has been accurate before.

Different source with the Butters one. Very reliable around dogs. Also said we offered Sam De Koning a 6-year deal which i found suprising.

We will hit free agency hard next year. If we a confident we can land one, I can see us trading out next years first rounder to slide up draft this year

Are you actually replying to your own posts?

 

[Proffessor]

And what?

Play Macrae and Daniel as rotating subs again next year?

Smith had clearly checked out long ago. We made the best of a s*** sandwich and Smith, his manager and Geelong made it s***. The best thing we can do is avoid drafting Smith types and go through draftee's character with a fine tooth comb.

Play them like we should have this year, in the team and on the ground because they were both clearly best 22 players.

And Smith, who knows what we might have gotten if we had held firm.

Geelong gets bargain deals because they have a reputation of sticking to their positions, there is a lesson there for us.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Play them like we should have this year, in the team and on the ground because they were both clearly best 22 players.

And Smith, who knows what we might have gotten if we had held firm.

Geelong gets bargain deals because they have a reputation of sticking to their positions, there is a lesson there for us.

We clearly played better football over the course of the year when we went from giving Macrae small but still some centre bounce rotations to zero.

And holding firm - whole I agree that we were generally somewhat aggressive, the trade was done with 8 minutes to go. Any holding and we would have risked no trade going through.

 

[HK_Bulldog]

People happy to laud Power as a genius when a deal like Treloars falls into his lap. Don’t dare criticise him when he has seen the departure of 2 x A grade players we knew wanted to leave years prior for peanuts.

I have not been impressed by anything he’s done. He bloody gave the stupid contracts to Macrae and Daniel he then had to f*cking unwind and people are saying he did a good job doing so. F*ck me, the bloke is made of teflon!

The trend these days is to give out long contracts to stop clubs from raiding you. If Macrae and Daniel were uncontracted, we wouldn't have got picks 45 and 25. Trading them out had nothing to do with unwinding a poor contract like Treloar or Bowes. It was purely a football decision.

 

[TheScriptorWL]

On Instagram, I find it extremely telling the stark difference between the outpour of Likes the Macrae and Daniel farewell post’s got. And the shocking lack of Likes from the playing list for Smith

The only notable player to like the post is Josh Bruce

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Josh Bruce

Age

32

Ht

198cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

90.4

1star

D

8.9

2star

K

3.5

1star

HB

5.4

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

90.4

2star

D

11.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

. A man who has been out of this Football club for years now. And probably plays the 2021 Season over in his head before he sleeps.

It genuinely seems like the whole playing group, has an at best rocky relationship with him. So fulfilling his wish and letting him go may be great culture wise

I know I’m grasping at straws. But You observe what you can as a Supporter looking in.


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Kermit]

Correct, Power completely screwed up.

How? As a contracted player, Smith could refuse any trade. If the rumour that we actually asked him last year if he was interested in going, is true, and he said he wasn’t and was in it for the long haul- what would you have done? Between the ACL injury and the likely whisper deal with Geelong/CottonOn, we couldn’t do jack s**t. The AFL/AFLPA allowed this mess by setting the rules the way they have. Again, you cannot trade a contracted player without their say so.

 

[weltschmerz]

On Instagram, I find it extremely telling the stark difference between the outpour of Likes the Macrae and Daniel farewell post’s got. And the shocking lack of Likes from the playing list for Smith

The only notable player to like the post is Josh Bruce. A man who has been out of this Football club for years now. And probably plays the 2021 Season over in his head before he sleeps.

It genuinely seems like the whole playing group, has an at best rocky relationship with him. So fulfilling his wish and letting him go may be great culture wise

I know I’m grasping at straws. But You observe what you can as a Supporter looking in.


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

There are two young Dogs who like pretty much every footy related post on instagram. Arty Jones and Aiden O’Driscoll, both in the age range where they’d have looked up to Smith. Neither has engaged with the post. That’s a very notable absence.

 

[Doggies7]

Richmond will need to consolidate some of their high picks (likely will trade out for some futures), but I wonder if something like 17 for 23 + 24 would make sense. Gives them another higher pick and 17 + 18 back to back and would allow us to have 23,24 and 25 to strike from. We could then trade 48 to a needy team without many picks (Roos, Crows, Eagles) for a future 3rd (plus more possibly if it's in demand).

That pick 24 is the valuable first pick of the second round also that teams make offers for leading up to night 2 and seems to hold a fair bit of value. Might not be enough for Richmond but maybe if the right player for them is there and there's still a decent group of players remaining we like.

 

[Rookie]

Not many of these guys will get extensions beyond next year: Gardner, Cleary, Baker, Poulter, Arty and Clarke if he gets extended.
+ libba, Jones, Duryea and JJ as potential retirements.

Could be a lot of list turnover.