Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[lachy]

This is one argument.

Another is that the club is obviously not doing enough to help these players.

The club has lost a number of young players who would be important to the future and another who is a possibility. Dunkley alluded to issues when he left.

Surely it's not all a coincidence.

I'm not saying it's Beveridge or any one reason because I don't know ... but it is an issue that the club in general needs to get better at.

No that is your opinion. What evidence do you have to suggest otherwise when Foxman presented a list that actually reflected a small percentage of players from other clubs with the same issue



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[lachy]

This is one argument.

Another is that the club is obviously not doing enough to help these players.

The club has lost a number of young players who would be important to the future and another who is a possibility. Dunkley alluded to issues when he left.

Surely it's not all a coincidence.

I'm not saying it's Beveridge or any one reason because I don't know ... but it is an issue that the club in general needs to get better at.

Dunkley did allude to the issues and one of those was one you are saying we got unders for yet he is no longer on that clubs list either

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[Doggy]

No that is your opinion. What evidence do you have to suggest otherwise when Foxman presented a list that actually reflected a small percentage of players from other clubs with the same issue



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I don't care about other clubs.

It's been written about many times that something isn't quite right at the dogs. Dunkley said as much as well.

It would be my opinion if I stated what I think it is but I expressly said I don't know just like I don't know the JUH situation so I am not going to speculate the finer details.

If you don't think there is any issue then that is fine but I'm allowed to think that there is.

"Where there is smoke there is fire" or don't you believe in that because you don't want to think there are some issues here ... must all be the players right?

 

[dergert]

Big challenge for a new recruiter/list manager to deal with Jamarra first up. Better hope we recruit wisely.

 

[lachy]

I don't care about other clubs.

It's been written about many times that something isn't quite right at the dogs. Dunkley said as much as well.

It would be my opinion if I stated what I think it is but I expressly said I don't know just like I don't know the JUH situation so I am not going to speculate the finer details.

If you don't think there is any issue then that is fine but I'm allowed to think that there is.

"Where there is smoke there is fire" or don't you believe in that because you don't want to think there are some issues here ... must all be the players right?

Written about by who???

If you want to believe every biased so called journalist story's which have an accuracy rate below 20% your choice.

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[Bulldogs85]

Big challenge for a new recruiter/list manager to deal with Jamarra first up. Better hope we recruit wisely.

Sam Power is still involved in that role

 

[Bulldogs85]

Sam Power is still involved in that role

Power appointed Executive Manager – Men’s Football

The Club is delighted to announce Sam Power’s full-time appointment to the role.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

Power will sit on the Club’s executive team and oversee all aspects of the men’s football program, while continuing to have an active role in contracts, TPP and the Club’s list strategy.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

That's the thing though... if we actively shop him around other clubs will know we want him gone and we end up with a poor deal

Yeah but at least he can't pick a single club as out of contract - ala Smith.

Best outcome is he knuckles down and recommits

 

[Doggy]

Yeah but at least he can't pick a single club as out of contract - ala Smith.

Best outcome is he knuckles down and recommits

But he can and most of the time players do exactly that.

 

[Doggy]

Written about by who???

If you want to believe every biased so called journalist story's which have an accuracy rate below 20% your choice.

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So every journalist is biased now?

Granted some of them post abolute garbage and it's easy to spot. They are not all biased, that is a sweeping statement.

You just don't want to believe that there looks to be some issues. In your opinion, it's just the club is not doing enough due diligence before the draft. Nothing else.

 

[dergert]

Power appointed Executive Manager – Men’s Football

The Club is delighted to announce Sam Power’s full-time appointment to the role.

www.westernbulldogs.com.au

Power will sit on the Club’s executive team and oversee all aspects of the men’s football program, while continuing to have an active role in contracts, TPP and the Club’s list strategy.

Sorry I misread it, I thought the new head recruiter will manage player movement and Power would contracts.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Sorry I misread it, I thought the new head recruiter will manage player movement and Power would contracts.

it was reported that Dom Milesi was going to help power in that role so maybe it will be the some with the new recruiter

 

[lachy]

So every journalist is biased now?

Granted some of them post abolute garbage and it's easy to spot. They are not all biased, that is a sweeping statement.

You just don't want to believe that there looks to be some issues. In your opinion, it's just the club is not doing enough due diligence before the draft. Nothing else.

Simply I am not on the inside to definitely say we are not supporting or putting enough in to support the 2% of players over the last decade we have had issues with.

In nearly all cases with us and other clubs it is the players who cannot cope with the professional environment and this manifests itself in many ways.

Us like all clubs need to be continuously improving in all aspects, but to definitively say there is an issue with a cliche about smoke is a nonsense.


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[Doggy]

Simply I am not on the inside to definitely say we are not supporting or putting enough in to support the 2% of players over the last decade we have had issues with.

In nearly all cases with us and other clubs it is the players who cannot cope with the professional environment and this manifests itself in many ways.

Us like all clubs need to be continuously improving in all aspects, but to definitively say there is an issue with a cliche about smoke is a nonsense.


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Interesting ... because you believe the in the knows on most things but when they say or agree that the club goes the too hard basket too often you don't agree.

BulldogMuscle has also alluded to this and i would suggest he's on the money with most things.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Ah. Josh Dunkley. Fed up with the culture and lack of professionalism at the Bulldogs, so naturally he wanted to go to Essendon.

 

[lachy]

Interesting ... because you believe the in the knows on most things but when they say or agree that the club goes the too hard basket too often you don't agree.

BulldogMuscle has also alluded to this and i would suggest he's on the money with most things.

Can you show me the post where Bulldog Muscle said or even alluded to we were not doing enough to support Stringer, Hunter, Daulhouse, Smith or JUH

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[Doggy]

Can you show me the post where Bulldog Muscle said or even alluded to we were not doing enough to support Stringer, Hunter, Daulhouse, Smith or JUH

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I'm not going to search for the direct post. You can ask him yourself.

He also liked post #9275

 

[lachy]

I'm not going to search for the direct post. You can ask him yourself.

He also liked post #9275

Thats an interesting post, which players that have left under these circumstances have been great at their new clubs exactly?

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[Bald]

When it comes to troubled players let's just accept that the club will keep players on the list if their off field issues are worth their on field performances, those that aren't worth it are traded and we get what we get for them.

So far, none of those that have left have burned us, and none of those that we've kept have burned us - in fact one of them was our captain in round one.

 

[Foxman98]

When it comes to troubled players let's just accept that the club will keep players on the list if their off field issues are worth their on field performances, those that aren't worth it are traded and we get what we get for them.

So far, none of those that have left have burned us, and none of those that we've kept have burned us - in fact one of them was our captain in round one.

Also people are genuinely delusional if they think young men in their late teens and early 20s who suddenly have a lot of time and disposable income aren't susceptible to things previously not considered

 

[House_of_Dahl]

But he can and most of the time players do exactly that.

Only if we leave it two years when he is out contract. He won’t t be able to demand that at the end of this year as he's in contract.

 

[adogsfan5]

Ah. Josh Dunkley. Fed up with the culture and lack of professionalism at the Bulldogs, so naturally he wanted to go to Essendon.

$$$$$ and don’t ruck me ya pricks.

 

[Foxman98]

$$$$$ and don’t ruck me ya pricks.

Sounds like Cripps could be available then

 

[_Mike_]

Thats an interesting post, which players that have left under these circumstances have been great at their new clubs exactly?

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Dunkley snagged a second premiership with Brisbane and was an important contributor in the 2024 GF, 21 disposals, 8 marks, 11 tackles, 4 clearances,

 

[_Mike_]

So far, none of those that have left have burned us,

I would argue Dunkley leaving left a gap in the midfield.