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Trade/Delistings/List Management 2010 Thread
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Re: Richmonds Trading
LOL at Richmond's trades. I thought it was going to be at how well their 'trades' have done. Mitch Farmer, Tom Hislop, Adam Thomson etc..
RE: Tambling = We have a bloke by the name of Courtenay Dempsey at Essendon. Pretty sure he plays as a running defender that can pay on a wing or even roam across half forward. Why do we need another over rated free winging 'play maker' at Essendon. If it is not Dempsey, it is Jarrod Atkinson, or Mark Mcveigh
RE: Foley - Do you honestly think they are going to have a starting quartet of Hille, Watson, Foley and Howlett? Would be a good player to have at Essendon, but I am not prepared to give up something for an injury plagued inside midfielder when we already have one of the best in Watson, an emergence of similar players in Nathan Lovett Murray, Melksham, Howlett and even in reserves we have Marcus Mariglinai. Do not think he would suit us.
RE: Morton - A player I would go after in a heart bear. A real match winner on his day. Plays a simialr role to Monfries yes, but he plays the role that Zaharakis is playing at the moment, this would enable Zaka to move into the midfield. Simple really. What would it do to get him across? Must be more to the story though, already been traded once though, West Coast -> Richmond.
RE: Tuck - Was summing up to draft him via PSD, then realised we already have a younger almost version in Marcus Marigliani among our rookies. I do not think there is a place for him at Essendon.
RE: Jack Riewoldt - NO. Sook, ****head, only plays like 3 good games a year (one against us every year). I would back in Hurley to actually learn how to play full forward. Drifts in and out of games far to often and is going to struggle for the rest of his career. If it wasn't for the Riewoldt name, he may not have been picked up IMO.
RE: Deledio - Definitely a player worth looking at. Be paying way over the odds though, so in that sense it would be a no.
I would like to back in our current list (minus a couple) to take us forward.
LOL at Richmond's trades. I thought it was going to be at how well their 'trades' have done. Mitch Farmer, Tom Hislop, Adam Thomson etc..
RE: Tambling = We have a bloke by the name of Courtenay Dempsey at Essendon. Pretty sure he plays as a running defender that can pay on a wing or even roam across half forward. Why do we need another over rated free winging 'play maker' at Essendon. If it is not Dempsey, it is Jarrod Atkinson, or Mark Mcveigh
RE: Foley - Do you honestly think they are going to have a starting quartet of Hille, Watson, Foley and Howlett? Would be a good player to have at Essendon, but I am not prepared to give up something for an injury plagued inside midfielder when we already have one of the best in Watson, an emergence of similar players in Nathan Lovett Murray, Melksham, Howlett and even in reserves we have Marcus Mariglinai. Do not think he would suit us.
RE: Morton - A player I would go after in a heart bear. A real match winner on his day. Plays a simialr role to Monfries yes, but he plays the role that Zaharakis is playing at the moment, this would enable Zaka to move into the midfield. Simple really. What would it do to get him across? Must be more to the story though, already been traded once though, West Coast -> Richmond.
RE: Tuck - Was summing up to draft him via PSD, then realised we already have a younger almost version in Marcus Marigliani among our rookies. I do not think there is a place for him at Essendon.
RE: Jack Riewoldt - NO. Sook, ****head, only plays like 3 good games a year (one against us every year). I would back in Hurley to actually learn how to play full forward. Drifts in and out of games far to often and is going to struggle for the rest of his career. If it wasn't for the Riewoldt name, he may not have been picked up IMO.
RE: Deledio - Definitely a player worth looking at. Be paying way over the odds though, so in that sense it would be a no.
I would like to back in our current list (minus a couple) to take us forward.
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Re: Richmonds Trading
I don't follow Jack Riewoldt closely, but I think you've got it wrong.
I don't follow Jack Riewoldt closely, but I think you've got it wrong.
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Watch the game closely, although the replay won't show the sooking and all that. Seriously who hits the hand of a player coming back from a hand injury? Tool, sooked on occasions when a free kick was not rewarded to him.
Watch the game closely, although the replay won't show the sooking and all that. Seriously who hits the hand of a player coming back from a hand injury? Tool, sooked on occasions when a free kick was not rewarded to him.
Re: Player Management
What do you mean, they did the right thing there too. Challenged so he'd have to miss an extra week!
What do you mean, they did the right thing there too. Challenged so he'd have to miss an extra week!
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Re: Richmonds Trading
I'm a fan of Jack. Sook, but bloody talented.
You just described Chad Cornes.
I'm a fan of Jack. Sook, but bloody talented.
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Re: Richmonds Trading
Don't have time for self centered selfish players in my team (Essendon).
Don't have time for self centered selfish players in my team (Essendon).
Re: Richmonds Trading
Don't know how he is over rated considering most people think he's shit. I would say under rated as he played some pretty good games for Richmond last year. Particularly in the second half of the year. i think he definitely has something to offer. He would be better than Atkinson on a wing and is a completely different player to McVeigh.
Foley would be a acquisition. A quick inside midfielder is just what we need. Atm we have Watson, Myers, Lonergan who are all inside players that don't really have that much pace. Foley is a quality midfielder who would fit into our running gamestyle. Richmond would never think about trading him because he is so good but to say he wouldn't suit us is ridiculous.
Agree that Morton would be a good pickup. But as you say, have to question his attitude.
Agreed.
He's a gun. Would definitely pick him up for one of our many young talls and a first rounder. Doesn't matter though because Richmond would never trade him.
This one is just wrong. He's a 21 year old key forward who is averaging four and a half scoring shots a game in a side which is winless. If Gumbleton or Hurley were playing at his level we would all be proclaiming them as the next Coleman. He was picked up in round one and, so far, has completely warranted being picked up that early. To say he shouldn't have been picked up is, once again, ridiculous.
Seriously?? He would have been stupid not to test out the hand. If pears wasn't completely right he shouldn't have played. Was Richo a shit player because he got annoyed when he didn't get a free kick sometimes? How about Fevola?
RE: Tambling = We have a bloke by the name of Courtenay Dempsey at Essendon. Pretty sure he plays as a running defender that can pay on a wing or even roam across half forward. Why do we need another over rated free winging 'play maker' at Essendon. If it is not Dempsey, it is Jarrod Atkinson, or Mark Mcveigh
Don't know how he is over rated considering most people think he's shit. I would say under rated as he played some pretty good games for Richmond last year. Particularly in the second half of the year. i think he definitely has something to offer. He would be better than Atkinson on a wing and is a completely different player to McVeigh.
Foley would be a acquisition. A quick inside midfielder is just what we need. Atm we have Watson, Myers, Lonergan who are all inside players that don't really have that much pace. Foley is a quality midfielder who would fit into our running gamestyle. Richmond would never think about trading him because he is so good but to say he wouldn't suit us is ridiculous.
Agree that Morton would be a good pickup. But as you say, have to question his attitude.
Agreed.
He's a gun. Would definitely pick him up for one of our many young talls and a first rounder. Doesn't matter though because Richmond would never trade him.
This one is just wrong. He's a 21 year old key forward who is averaging four and a half scoring shots a game in a side which is winless. If Gumbleton or Hurley were playing at his level we would all be proclaiming them as the next Coleman. He was picked up in round one and, so far, has completely warranted being picked up that early. To say he shouldn't have been picked up is, once again, ridiculous.
Seriously?? He would have been stupid not to test out the hand. If pears wasn't completely right he shouldn't have played. Was Richo a shit player because he got annoyed when he didn't get a free kick sometimes? How about Fevola?
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Re: Richmonds Trading
I agree that it's not ideal, but you don't ignore talent because he drops the head and tears up on occasion. For what it's worth, I've thought he's a w***er plenty of times, but hell, I would've taken Fev in 2003, and Riewoldt doesn't have a number of indiscretions to his name.
Gary Ablett's one of the most obvious self-centred individuals running around; I distinctly remember his body language and look of such disappointment after the Hawthorn win in 2009. Yes, win. Because he didn't get his regular 35 touches, 2-3 vote game. It's why I think he'll leave for the Gold Coast at the end of the year, and it's why you saw him close to tears (of misery) when his teammate won the Brownlow Medal in 2007.
Having said all of that, he does what he's paid to do: play football. Just like Riewoldt.
He's already on 20+ goals from 9 games in one of the worst sides of my lifetime (22 years), and kicked from memory, 30-odd last year as an undersized key position forward in a bottom 2 side.
Would take him in an instant.
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I agree that it's not ideal, but you don't ignore talent because he drops the head and tears up on occasion. For what it's worth, I've thought he's a w***er plenty of times, but hell, I would've taken Fev in 2003, and Riewoldt doesn't have a number of indiscretions to his name.
Gary Ablett's one of the most obvious self-centred individuals running around; I distinctly remember his body language and look of such disappointment after the Hawthorn win in 2009. Yes, win. Because he didn't get his regular 35 touches, 2-3 vote game. It's why I think he'll leave for the Gold Coast at the end of the year, and it's why you saw him close to tears (of misery) when his teammate won the Brownlow Medal in 2007.
Having said all of that, he does what he's paid to do: play football. Just like Riewoldt.
He's already on 20+ goals from 9 games in one of the worst sides of my lifetime (22 years), and kicked from memory, 30-odd last year as an undersized key position forward in a bottom 2 side.
Would take him in an instant.
Re: Richmonds Trading
Perhaps was just dissapointed in himself? Even if you win you can be dissapointed when you don't get a kick. Especially after two years of wins every week.
Perhaps was just dissapointed in himself? Even if you win you can be dissapointed when you don't get a kick. Especially after two years of wins every week.
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Re: Richmonds Trading
Don't start sulking on the field when your side's had a lucky, after-the-siren victory.
Poor Gazza. I bet if he kicked that behind he would've been happy.
So suck it up until afterwards.
Don't start sulking on the field when your side's had a lucky, after-the-siren victory.
Poor Gazza. I bet if he kicked that behind he would've been happy.
Re: Player Management
He actually played an alright game just before he got suspended, was getting into form really.
He actually played an alright game just before he got suspended, was getting into form really.
Re: Richmonds Trading
It's not like he didn't go to his teammates to celebrate first.
Why does it matter when he's dissapointed with himself?
It's not like he didn't go to his teammates to celebrate first.
Why does it matter when he's dissapointed with himself?
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Because it reflects badly on himself to not be able to at the very least suppress his personal disappointment when his instincts should be to rejoice that his side has won.
If he's doing it in front of his team mates, what are they thinking? I'd respect him a whole lot less as a teammate to see him sulking right after we've had a miraculous win.
If he waits until he's in the showers or warming down or whatever, it doesn't create a negative influence within the group, and it doesn't take away from the comradary experience in a team victory.
Anyway, this has gotten really off-topic; it's no longer about Jack Riewoldt, and it's no longer about Richmond's trade prospects.
Because it reflects badly on himself to not be able to at the very least suppress his personal disappointment when his instincts should be to rejoice that his side has won.
If he's doing it in front of his team mates, what are they thinking? I'd respect him a whole lot less as a teammate to see him sulking right after we've had a miraculous win.
If he waits until he's in the showers or warming down or whatever, it doesn't create a negative influence within the group, and it doesn't take away from the comradary experience in a team victory.
Anyway, this has gotten really off-topic; it's no longer about Jack Riewoldt, and it's no longer about Richmond's trade prospects.
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Re: Richmonds Trading
Nah, it'll help keep the stats up
Nah, it'll help keep the stats up
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Re: Player Management
Next few weeks will be the test. If Atkinson keeps getting games they are failing badly.
Next few weeks will be the test. If Atkinson keeps getting games they are failing badly.
Re: Player Management
We can't kick for goal, we have our best kick for goal playing for Bendigo.
We can't kick for goal, we have our best kick for goal playing for Bendigo.
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I too would like to see williams come in soon and reimers will be recalled when fully fit. In my honest opinion we are playing better footy without welsh in the midfield, i like the direction we are heading with howlett as a run with player and uses the ball better, welsh is now too slow for afl standard and his off the ball tactics on opposition players are heavily penalised by umpires. And even though i know slattery will walk straight back into the team i like mcveigh and hocking down back, they can both do their job and have nice skills coming out of defence and this should keep slattery out.
NLM, williams and reimers should be the only players pushing for selection. But who to take out of that team? Atkinson? Melksham (inj) ?
I too would like to see williams come in soon and reimers will be recalled when fully fit. In my honest opinion we are playing better footy without welsh in the midfield, i like the direction we are heading with howlett as a run with player and uses the ball better, welsh is now too slow for afl standard and his off the ball tactics on opposition players are heavily penalised by umpires. And even though i know slattery will walk straight back into the team i like mcveigh and hocking down back, they can both do their job and have nice skills coming out of defence and this should keep slattery out.
NLM, williams and reimers should be the only players pushing for selection. But who to take out of that team? Atkinson? Melksham (inj) ?
Re: Player Management
Our depth is really looking good at the moment. Even blokes like Muscles, who after round 11 may well come onto our list (should regardless as reward for his performance in the VFL), are really pushing for a position in our team. Knights loves Welsh, but with 4 weeks out, I would make him play a game in the Magoos before bringing him back.
Our depth is really looking good at the moment. Even blokes like Muscles, who after round 11 may well come onto our list (should regardless as reward for his performance in the VFL), are really pushing for a position in our team. Knights loves Welsh, but with 4 weeks out, I would make him play a game in the Magoos before bringing him back.
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They've made some tough and even unpopular decisions and honestly most of them have been vindicated. A lot of people thought Hille could do with a spell in the 2's and he has bounced back with an absolute vengeance these past 2 weeks (in career best form i'd say). Davey had a complete lack of confidence and was dropped to Bendigo. He was given a few weeks to regain his confidence. Since he's come back he looks a new player, just so much cleaner, and his kicking is so much more accurate than before, it's amazing what some confidence has done for his game. There are numerous examples all like this.
I've also liked the use of both Melksham/Colyer giving both exposure to the AFL without putting too much workload on them too soon.
For the most part whenever they've brought new players in, those players have either excelled, or at least earned their spot and justified selection. It seems like Knights is starting to learn how to get better results from our players. He's also stuck by a few players that were struggling and they have now started to turn it around. I'd throw up names like Hille, Ryder, Winderlich (still not back to his best), Mcveigh etc. All these guys have struggled at various points of the season but he backed them in and i think the total group confidence is rising as a result.
They've made some tough and even unpopular decisions and honestly most of them have been vindicated. A lot of people thought Hille could do with a spell in the 2's and he has bounced back with an absolute vengeance these past 2 weeks (in career best form i'd say). Davey had a complete lack of confidence and was dropped to Bendigo. He was given a few weeks to regain his confidence. Since he's come back he looks a new player, just so much cleaner, and his kicking is so much more accurate than before, it's amazing what some confidence has done for his game. There are numerous examples all like this.
I've also liked the use of both Melksham/Colyer giving both exposure to the AFL without putting too much workload on them too soon.
For the most part whenever they've brought new players in, those players have either excelled, or at least earned their spot and justified selection. It seems like Knights is starting to learn how to get better results from our players. He's also stuck by a few players that were struggling and they have now started to turn it around. I'd throw up names like Hille, Ryder, Winderlich (still not back to his best), Mcveigh etc. All these guys have struggled at various points of the season but he backed them in and i think the total group confidence is rising as a result.
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Essendon do, we did it to Fraser Gehrig a few years back. Nothing wrong with it in my eyes, I'd expect Pears to do the same thing if it was Riewoldt coming back.
Essendon do, we did it to Fraser Gehrig a few years back. Nothing wrong with it in my eyes, I'd expect Pears to do the same thing if it was Riewoldt coming back.
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I know Pears would do it.
He'd do it and then shake the guy's hand at the end of the match. It's not much different from defenders constantly nudging, grabbing and giving lip service to their opponents.
I know Pears would do it.
He'd do it and then shake the guy's hand at the end of the match. It's not much different from defenders constantly nudging, grabbing and giving lip service to their opponents.
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