Re: Leroy Jetta
You're making a mockery of the conditioning crew at Windy Hill. Jetta is great by name, poor by spirit.
You're making a mockery of the conditioning crew at Windy Hill. Jetta is great by name, poor by spirit.
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Re: Leroy Jetta
I don't think you can say we've stuffed up our picks with this argument. To me it points out the fact there was slim pickings to choose from by the time we had our pick. You only stuff a pick up if there was serious talent staring you in the face and you overlook it.
2006 Draft
19 Shaun Grigg
20 Tom Hislop
21 Gavin Urquhart
22 Albert Proud
23 Paul Stewart
24 Brent Renouf
25 Nathan Djerrkura
26 Shane Edwards
27 Brad Howard
28 Chris Dawes
29 Eric MacKenzie
30 Ricky Petterd
31 Clayton Collard
32 Kurt Tippett
33 Jarryd Morton
34 Chris Schmidt
35 Mark Austin
These are the players we overlooked for Leroy. With perfect hindsight you'd probably take Tippet, who was also overlooked by 13 other clubs. Sure, we did it twice, but I don't think our recruiters can be hung out to dry on this one.
I don't think you can say we've stuffed up our picks with this argument. To me it points out the fact there was slim pickings to choose from by the time we had our pick. You only stuff a pick up if there was serious talent staring you in the face and you overlook it.
2006 Draft
19 Shaun Grigg
20 Tom Hislop
21 Gavin Urquhart
22 Albert Proud
23 Paul Stewart
24 Brent Renouf
25 Nathan Djerrkura
26 Shane Edwards
27 Brad Howard
28 Chris Dawes
29 Eric MacKenzie
30 Ricky Petterd
31 Clayton Collard
32 Kurt Tippett
33 Jarryd Morton
34 Chris Schmidt
35 Mark Austin
These are the players we overlooked for Leroy. With perfect hindsight you'd probably take Tippet, who was also overlooked by 13 other clubs. Sure, we did it twice, but I don't think our recruiters can be hung out to dry on this one.
Re: Leroy Jetta
My comments were in reply to the claim that Jetta must be a good player because he was top 20 in a superdraft. I clearly pointed out that plenty of players rated highly in the draft fail to come on. As far as drafting stuff ups I wasn't just refering to Jetta. I think its fair to say we have had more misses than hits when its come to our 1st round picks over the last decade.
My comments were in reply to the claim that Jetta must be a good player because he was top 20 in a superdraft. I clearly pointed out that plenty of players rated highly in the draft fail to come on. As far as drafting stuff ups I wasn't just refering to Jetta. I think its fair to say we have had more misses than hits when its come to our 1st round picks over the last decade.
Re: Leroy Jetta
I agree with your point. People get hung up on draft pick numbers, this is true.
However I don't agree with this commonly held belief we stuffed our first rounders up this decade.
2000 James Davies (17) hell yeah. But I remember at the time it was controversial, and everyone thought we had pulled a swifty. There were stories they were going to investigate us for draft tampering. Miss.
2001 Shane Harvey (18), we missed Stevie J or Jason Gram. But so did the guys in the first round who took the players mentioned in your other post, and there wasn't a great deal more quality to follow Miss
2002 Laycock (10) and Winder (11) are better players than the lot that followed. Only really Wil Minson another option. Hit, Hit.
2003 Keplar Bradley (6): Everyone always brings up Bradley as a bad pick. Probably the reason for the whole paradigm. And it goes back to your point: plenty of players rated highly in the draft fail to come on, but people have high expectations when they get a top ten pick. Tenace, Raph Clarke, David Trotter, Ryley Dunn, Beau Waters or Ryan Murphy anyone? That was the choice, we took Bradley. Neutral.
2004 Gus (14): really solid pick I'd say, compared to the players 15-30 Hit
2005 Paddy (7): Probably fighting it out with Pendlebury (who was taken before our pick) and Higgins as the best player of the draft. Hit
The Jury is still out from 06 onwards IMO
2006 Gumby (2): Sure we could've got Selwood. Its not a perfect world. Let's hope we see lots of Gumby in the future. Could be a fantastic pick, could be a waste.
2007 Myers (6): Hopefully develops into another clearance king. Must say i was not a fan early on this season, but i'm starting to come around to the idea that he may fill a need going forward.
2008 Hurley (5): Well...
I agree with your point. People get hung up on draft pick numbers, this is true.
However I don't agree with this commonly held belief we stuffed our first rounders up this decade.
2000 James Davies (17) hell yeah. But I remember at the time it was controversial, and everyone thought we had pulled a swifty. There were stories they were going to investigate us for draft tampering. Miss.
2001 Shane Harvey (18), we missed Stevie J or Jason Gram. But so did the guys in the first round who took the players mentioned in your other post, and there wasn't a great deal more quality to follow Miss
2002 Laycock (10) and Winder (11) are better players than the lot that followed. Only really Wil Minson another option. Hit, Hit.
2003 Keplar Bradley (6): Everyone always brings up Bradley as a bad pick. Probably the reason for the whole paradigm. And it goes back to your point: plenty of players rated highly in the draft fail to come on, but people have high expectations when they get a top ten pick. Tenace, Raph Clarke, David Trotter, Ryley Dunn, Beau Waters or Ryan Murphy anyone? That was the choice, we took Bradley. Neutral.
2004 Gus (14): really solid pick I'd say, compared to the players 15-30 Hit
2005 Paddy (7): Probably fighting it out with Pendlebury (who was taken before our pick) and Higgins as the best player of the draft. Hit
The Jury is still out from 06 onwards IMO
2006 Gumby (2): Sure we could've got Selwood. Its not a perfect world. Let's hope we see lots of Gumby in the future. Could be a fantastic pick, could be a waste.
2007 Myers (6): Hopefully develops into another clearance king. Must say i was not a fan early on this season, but i'm starting to come around to the idea that he may fill a need going forward.
2008 Hurley (5): Well...
Re: Leroy Jetta
He won the Kevin Sheehan medal in the Under 16s, so he was definitely highly thought of but I don't think you can read too much into that. It's the next two years where the big guys grow and shape as top talents and looking at the guys that went ahead of him, 12 of them were ruckmen or key position prospects.
His Under 18s were very good still as well. He made the All-Australian team both times and his numbers were good in most areas. The only cloud over him was that he didn't have an enormous impact in his few appearances for South Fremantle. I don't think it's a valid ragument to say he stagnated as a junior - knowing how highly some rated him, including us, in that draft, we were very lucky to get him at 18.
I imagine a lot of plyometric training is ahead of him in the coming months and if he gtes through it, I think we'll see a far more explosive footballer in 2010.
He won the Kevin Sheehan medal in the Under 16s, so he was definitely highly thought of but I don't think you can read too much into that. It's the next two years where the big guys grow and shape as top talents and looking at the guys that went ahead of him, 12 of them were ruckmen or key position prospects.
His Under 18s were very good still as well. He made the All-Australian team both times and his numbers were good in most areas. The only cloud over him was that he didn't have an enormous impact in his few appearances for South Fremantle. I don't think it's a valid ragument to say he stagnated as a junior - knowing how highly some rated him, including us, in that draft, we were very lucky to get him at 18.
I imagine a lot of plyometric training is ahead of him in the coming months and if he gtes through it, I think we'll see a far more explosive footballer in 2010.
Re: Leroy Jetta
We have to remember it takes time for some players to reach their full potential.. I really think Jetta is been underdone by most supporters but the potential is there..
I think Leon Davis took quite a while to really establish himself as an elite midfielder, and before that he was really seen only as a small forward for many years.
Jetta has the attributes to be an explosive Midfield/Forward type but he has to put his mindset to work this pre-season if he wants it to become a reality.
We have to remember it takes time for some players to reach their full potential.. I really think Jetta is been underdone by most supporters but the potential is there..
I think Leon Davis took quite a while to really establish himself as an elite midfielder, and before that he was really seen only as a small forward for many years.
Jetta has the attributes to be an explosive Midfield/Forward type but he has to put his mindset to work this pre-season if he wants it to become a reality.
Re: Leroy Jetta
i dont have a personal vandetta against the guy, but i think his time is up.
dude this has been addressed so many times its not funny.
i dont have a personal vandetta against the guy, but i think his time is up.
Re: Leroy Jetta
The only good example I can think of at the moment is Dyson, he has had his head under the chopping block for years, and thankfully he's pulled through with a convincing good season.. I think once Jetta's at a more mature age (22 to 25) then we'll really see where his playing future is at..
Lovett also was only ever seen much as a sneak forward to start out with but he didn't have the expectation that Jetta had coming from the rookie list.. (Jetta of coarse been early 2nd round)
Jetta's best outcome would be a Leon Davis type, worst possibility maybe Richard Tambling or Eddie Betts.
The only good example I can think of at the moment is Dyson, he has had his head under the chopping block for years, and thankfully he's pulled through with a convincing good season.. I think once Jetta's at a more mature age (22 to 25) then we'll really see where his playing future is at..
Lovett also was only ever seen much as a sneak forward to start out with but he didn't have the expectation that Jetta had coming from the rookie list.. (Jetta of coarse been early 2nd round)
Jetta's best outcome would be a Leon Davis type, worst possibility maybe Richard Tambling or Eddie Betts.
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Re: Leroy Jetta
IMO the only ones we will regret. Wish we took Djerrkura, shame he can't get regular games for Geelong, would love us to trade for him.
IMO the only ones we will regret. Wish we took Djerrkura, shame he can't get regular games for Geelong, would love us to trade for him.
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Re: Leroy Jetta
Interesting when you look at it. It was touted as a superdraft at the time but didn;t have much on offer when you look at it. Tippet is the obvious standout of the above.
Grigg is highly rated at Carlton as is Pettered at Melbourne and Urquhart at Nth. So they could have been reasonable gets.
In saying this, I'm still hoping that Jetta comes on.
Interesting when you look at it. It was touted as a superdraft at the time but didn;t have much on offer when you look at it. Tippet is the obvious standout of the above.
Grigg is highly rated at Carlton as is Pettered at Melbourne and Urquhart at Nth. So they could have been reasonable gets.
In saying this, I'm still hoping that Jetta comes on.
Re: Leroy Jetta
Agree with all these but Lazycock a hit? Not in my book.
And Bradley neutral....hmmmmmmm.........long way off nuetral for Kepler "the spud" Bradley imo.
If it was apparent that pick 6 was that ordinary we should have traded it before getting Kepler.
I agree with your point. People get hung up on draft pick numbers, this is true.
However I don't agree with this commonly held belief we stuffed our first rounders up this decade.
2000 James Davies (17) hell yeah. But I remember at the time it was controversial, and everyone thought we had pulled a swifty. There were stories they were going to investigate us for draft tampering. Miss.
2001 Shane Harvey (18), we missed Stevie J or Jason Gram. But so did the guys in the first round who took the players mentioned in your other post, and there wasn't a great deal more quality to follow Miss
2002 Laycock (10) and Winder (11) are better players than the lot that followed. Only really Wil Minson another option. Hit, Hit.
2003 Keplar Bradley (6): Everyone always brings up Bradley as a bad pick. Probably the reason for the whole paradigm. And it goes back to your point: plenty of players rated highly in the draft fail to come on, but people have high expectations when they get a top ten pick. Tenace, Raph Clarke, David Trotter, Ryley Dunn, Beau Waters or Ryan Murphy anyone? That was the choice, we took Bradley. Neutral.
2004 Gus (14): really solid pick I'd say, compared to the players 15-30 Hit
2005 Paddy (7): Probably fighting it out with Pendlebury (who was taken before our pick) and Higgins as the best player of the draft. Hit
The Jury is still out from 06 onwards IMO
2006 Gumby (2): Sure we could've got Selwood. Its not a perfect world. Let's hope we see lots of Gumby in the future. Could be a fantastic pick, could be a waste.
2007 Myers (6): Hopefully develops into another clearance king. Must say i was not a fan early on this season, but i'm starting to come around to the idea that he may fill a need going forward.
2008 Hurley (5): Well...
Agree with all these but Lazycock a hit? Not in my book.
And Bradley neutral....hmmmmmmm.........long way off nuetral for Kepler "the spud" Bradley imo.
If it was apparent that pick 6 was that ordinary we should have traded it before getting Kepler.
Re: Leroy Jetta
Laycock has only played 58 games in 7 years with few of them being better than average performances. Thats not a good return from pick 10 no matter which way you look at it. Kepler is gone so thats another definate miss. Gumby has played only 5 games in 3 years & there must be some concerns about his future & Myers isn't where we would have hoped by the end of his second year. When you look at it as a whole we have had 14 top 20 picks from 2000-2008 & our best 22 in 2009 only contained 6 (Winders, Stants, Gus, Ryder, Dempsey & Hurley). This is a poor return at this point in time. Whether its poor drafting, poor development or both we have not strengthened the team enough with our prime picks & this has lead to the over reliance on ageing champions.
Being a high pick doesn't neccesarily mean they are a better player but its where most clubs build their sides from. Geelong for comparrison only had 8 top 20 picks this decade but their best 22 contains Bartel, Kelly, Varcoe, Sellwood & Taylor - thats a good return.
I agree with your point. People get hung up on draft pick numbers, this is true.
However I don't agree with this commonly held belief we stuffed our first rounders up this decade.
2000 James Davies (17) hell yeah. But I remember at the time it was controversial, and everyone thought we had pulled a swifty. There were stories they were going to investigate us for draft tampering. Miss.
2001 Shane Harvey (18), we missed Stevie J or Jason Gram. But so did the guys in the first round who took the players mentioned in your other post, and there wasn't a great deal more quality to follow Miss
2002 Laycock (10) and Winder (11) are better players than the lot that followed. Only really Wil Minson another option. Hit, Hit.
2003 Keplar Bradley (6): Everyone always brings up Bradley as a bad pick. Probably the reason for the whole paradigm. And it goes back to your point: plenty of players rated highly in the draft fail to come on, but people have high expectations when they get a top ten pick. Tenace, Raph Clarke, David Trotter, Ryley Dunn, Beau Waters or Ryan Murphy anyone? That was the choice, we took Bradley. Neutral.
2004 Gus (14): really solid pick I'd say, compared to the players 15-30 Hit
2005 Paddy (7): Probably fighting it out with Pendlebury (who was taken before our pick) and Higgins as the best player of the draft. Hit
The Jury is still out from 06 onwards IMO
2006 Gumby (2): Sure we could've got Selwood. Its not a perfect world. Let's hope we see lots of Gumby in the future. Could be a fantastic pick, could be a waste.
2007 Myers (6): Hopefully develops into another clearance king. Must say i was not a fan early on this season, but i'm starting to come around to the idea that he may fill a need going forward.
2008 Hurley (5): Well...
Laycock has only played 58 games in 7 years with few of them being better than average performances. Thats not a good return from pick 10 no matter which way you look at it. Kepler is gone so thats another definate miss. Gumby has played only 5 games in 3 years & there must be some concerns about his future & Myers isn't where we would have hoped by the end of his second year. When you look at it as a whole we have had 14 top 20 picks from 2000-2008 & our best 22 in 2009 only contained 6 (Winders, Stants, Gus, Ryder, Dempsey & Hurley). This is a poor return at this point in time. Whether its poor drafting, poor development or both we have not strengthened the team enough with our prime picks & this has lead to the over reliance on ageing champions.
Being a high pick doesn't neccesarily mean they are a better player but its where most clubs build their sides from. Geelong for comparrison only had 8 top 20 picks this decade but their best 22 contains Bartel, Kelly, Varcoe, Sellwood & Taylor - thats a good return.
Re: Leroy Jetta
I disagree. It’s been far from perfect, but we’ve done ok…
1st round picks (picks 1-16)
99 - no pick (Hille was our first pick at #40)
00 - no pick
01 - no pick
02 - Laycock, Winderlich (1 miss, 1 hit)
03 - Bradley, Stanton (1 miss, 1 hit)
04 - Monfries (hit)
05 - Ryder (hit)
06 - Gumby (?)
07 - Myers (?)
08 - Hurley (likely hit)
Other picks in the top 25...
99 - no pick
00 - Davies (miss)
01 - Harvey (miss)
02 - no pick
03 - no pick
04 - no pick
05 - Dempsey (hit)
06 – Jetta, Hislop (1 ?, 1 miss)
07 - Pears (hit)
08 - Zaka (likely hit)
That's 8 hits, 5 misses and 3 too soon to tells from 16 selections.
Only 2 of these players are no longer on AFL lists (Davies and Harvey).
Hislop could still become a player and Bradley has his moments. Both misses from our point of view, but could still be good at their new clubs. The players picked directly after Kepler were Tenace, R Clarke, Trotter and Dunn, a pretty average crop.
We’re all hoping Gumby, Jetta and Myers will become good players for us, although some people may have given up on them already. The thought of missing Selwood and Rioli is disappointing, but lets just see what Gumby and Myers have to offer before going off the deep end.
I’m not sure if Laycock will ever reach his full potential, but he’s still listed and therefore not a lost cause just yet.
Also, Dodoro’s first national draft was 1998 and his first 2 selections were McVeigh and Rama, both first round and both hits!
EDIT: LOL, i completely missed yodellinhank's post. He's made a similar point.
I disagree. It’s been far from perfect, but we’ve done ok…
1st round picks (picks 1-16)
99 - no pick (Hille was our first pick at #40)
00 - no pick
01 - no pick
02 - Laycock, Winderlich (1 miss, 1 hit)
03 - Bradley, Stanton (1 miss, 1 hit)
04 - Monfries (hit)
05 - Ryder (hit)
06 - Gumby (?)
07 - Myers (?)
08 - Hurley (likely hit)
Other picks in the top 25...
99 - no pick
00 - Davies (miss)
01 - Harvey (miss)
02 - no pick
03 - no pick
04 - no pick
05 - Dempsey (hit)
06 – Jetta, Hislop (1 ?, 1 miss)
07 - Pears (hit)
08 - Zaka (likely hit)
That's 8 hits, 5 misses and 3 too soon to tells from 16 selections.
Only 2 of these players are no longer on AFL lists (Davies and Harvey).
Hislop could still become a player and Bradley has his moments. Both misses from our point of view, but could still be good at their new clubs. The players picked directly after Kepler were Tenace, R Clarke, Trotter and Dunn, a pretty average crop.
We’re all hoping Gumby, Jetta and Myers will become good players for us, although some people may have given up on them already. The thought of missing Selwood and Rioli is disappointing, but lets just see what Gumby and Myers have to offer before going off the deep end.
I’m not sure if Laycock will ever reach his full potential, but he’s still listed and therefore not a lost cause just yet.
Also, Dodoro’s first national draft was 1998 and his first 2 selections were McVeigh and Rama, both first round and both hits!
EDIT: LOL, i completely missed yodellinhank's post. He's made a similar point.
Re: Leroy Jetta
Again I say; you have to compare the players we got from what was available at the time. Forget how early he was taken. Was he the best player we could have picked at that time? Was there talent staring us in the face that we overlooked in order to pick him?
Laycock stacks up against what was available. It is that simple. You can't just say "have a look at Laycock's record, he hasn't played many good games so therefore we stuffed up". The fictitious player who everyone wishes we took, who would have played 100+ games and kicked 200+ goals from the midfield; simply does not exist.
Again I say; you have to compare the players we got from what was available at the time. Forget how early he was taken. Was he the best player we could have picked at that time? Was there talent staring us in the face that we overlooked in order to pick him?
Laycock stacks up against what was available. It is that simple. You can't just say "have a look at Laycock's record, he hasn't played many good games so therefore we stuffed up". The fictitious player who everyone wishes we took, who would have played 100+ games and kicked 200+ goals from the midfield; simply does not exist.
2010: Make or Break for which players?
As the title suggests, which players could find themselves up for a trade or delistment at the end of the season should they not perform this year?
My list
Atkinson
Jetta
Laycock
Certainly a few others floating around.
Others? Try to ignore 50-50s and think of which ones would almost be guaranteed to be given the flick if they have a substandard year.
As the title suggests, which players could find themselves up for a trade or delistment at the end of the season should they not perform this year?
My list
Atkinson
Jetta
Laycock
Certainly a few others floating around.
Others? Try to ignore 50-50s and think of which ones would almost be guaranteed to be given the flick if they have a substandard year.
Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
Jetta.
Neagle.
Laycock.
Jetta.
Neagle.
Laycock.
Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
Certain:
Atkinson
Laycock
Jetta
50/50
Davey
Lovett Murray
Gumbleton
Neagle
Davey isn't getting any younger and it would be 2 crap seasons in a row from him. Lovett Murray is probably no chance at getting delisted even if he has a crap year. If Gumbleton and Neagle have another shit year with injurys they possibly might be traded. These are my views.
Certain:
Atkinson
Laycock
Jetta
50/50
Davey
Lovett Murray
Gumbleton
Neagle
Davey isn't getting any younger and it would be 2 crap seasons in a row from him. Lovett Murray is probably no chance at getting delisted even if he has a crap year. If Gumbleton and Neagle have another shit year with injurys they possibly might be traded. These are my views.
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Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
Atkinson
Slattery
Laycock (gone anyhow imo)
Gumbleton cost dick all on the salary cap, there's too much upside to let him go.
Neagle has all the talent in the world, just doesn't have his head in the game, though would be a good trade to Sydney for obvious reasons.
Jetta is safe, indigenous boys most of the time take a bit more to develop, will be in our midfield and best 22 in 2011.
Atkinson
Slattery
Laycock (gone anyhow imo)
Gumbleton cost dick all on the salary cap, there's too much upside to let him go.
Neagle has all the talent in the world, just doesn't have his head in the game, though would be a good trade to Sydney for obvious reasons.
Jetta is safe, indigenous boys most of the time take a bit more to develop, will be in our midfield and best 22 in 2011.
Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
I was surprised at the large number coming out of contract at the end of the year. The following are out of contract at the end of 2010:
Atkinson
Bock
Crameri
Davey
Fletcher
Gumbleton
Hardingham
Hille
Houli
Howlett
Hurley
Jetta
Laycock
Lonergan
Marigliani
McVeigh
Monfries
Myers
Quinn
Reimers
Silverlock
H. Slattery
T. Slattery
Stanton
Still
Watson
J. Williams
From those, I would assume that these were safe:
Bock [project - would have to have a career ending injury to be at risk]
Gumbleton [persisted for this long - whats another year?]
Hille [only senior ruckman, also coming off knee, so will be given leeway]
Hurley [only if he was to commit murder would he be considered]
McVeigh [leadership group, senior clubman]
Monfries [safe]
Myers [would be given at least another year]
Reimers [should be safe]
H. Slattery [which other small defenders have we got? senior. safe]
T. Slattery [project]
Stanton [needed in the team]
Still [project]
Watson [captain]
Which leaves:
Should stay on:
Davey [would think he is safe, again who else have we got?]
Fletcher [depends if his body holds up]
Lonergan [he should stay on the list]
Quinn [club should persist unless he shows nothing]
Houli [may be in danger, but should stay on the list]
Rookies [aka nfi]:
Crameri [1st year rookie, needs to show something]
Hardingham [1st year rookie, needs to show something]
Howlett[1st year rookie, needs to show something]
Silverlock[1st year rookie, needs to show something]
In trouble:
Atkinson [on his last legs you would think]
Jetta [on his last legs]
Laycock [seriously needs to get on the park]
J. Williams [basically 3rd year on the list, needs to show something]
Marigliani[1st year rookie, but will be 25, needs to show something]
I was surprised at the large number coming out of contract at the end of the year. The following are out of contract at the end of 2010:
Atkinson
Bock
Crameri
Davey
Fletcher
Gumbleton
Hardingham
Hille
Houli
Howlett
Hurley
Jetta
Laycock
Lonergan
Marigliani
McVeigh
Monfries
Myers
Quinn
Reimers
Silverlock
H. Slattery
T. Slattery
Stanton
Still
Watson
J. Williams
From those, I would assume that these were safe:
Bock [project - would have to have a career ending injury to be at risk]
Gumbleton [persisted for this long - whats another year?]
Hille [only senior ruckman, also coming off knee, so will be given leeway]
Hurley [only if he was to commit murder would he be considered]
McVeigh [leadership group, senior clubman]
Monfries [safe]
Myers [would be given at least another year]
Reimers [should be safe]
H. Slattery [which other small defenders have we got? senior. safe]
T. Slattery [project]
Stanton [needed in the team]
Still [project]
Watson [captain]
Which leaves:
Should stay on:
Davey [would think he is safe, again who else have we got?]
Fletcher [depends if his body holds up]
Lonergan [he should stay on the list]
Quinn [club should persist unless he shows nothing]
Houli [may be in danger, but should stay on the list]
Rookies [aka nfi]:
Crameri [1st year rookie, needs to show something]
Hardingham [1st year rookie, needs to show something]
Howlett[1st year rookie, needs to show something]
Silverlock[1st year rookie, needs to show something]
In trouble:
Atkinson [on his last legs you would think]
Jetta [on his last legs]
Laycock [seriously needs to get on the park]
J. Williams [basically 3rd year on the list, needs to show something]
Marigliani[1st year rookie, but will be 25, needs to show something]
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Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
wow, which of those guys may want to leave? as there is jobs on offer at the gold coast and they will target atleast a few of those! there is a fair few rookies there i guees though.
John williams got re-drafted this season not sure he should be on the in trouble list, not that i know anything about him!
wow, which of those guys may want to leave? as there is jobs on offer at the gold coast and they will target atleast a few of those! there is a fair few rookies there i guees though.
John williams got re-drafted this season not sure he should be on the in trouble list, not that i know anything about him!
Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
Yeah I pretty much agree with that assessment. Project Quinn may have to be terminated sooner rather than later if 2010 turns to shit.
Yeah I pretty much agree with that assessment. Project Quinn may have to be terminated sooner rather than later if 2010 turns to shit.
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Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
laycock, slattery, dyson, jetta and atkinson.
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Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
Atkinson, Laycock so far.
Atkinson, Laycock so far.
Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
Atkinson, Laycock and Jetta are definately 3 players whose careers hang at the crossroads at the moment... Bachar Houli also needs to have a solid season in my opinion.
Atkinson, Laycock and Jetta are definately 3 players whose careers hang at the crossroads at the moment... Bachar Houli also needs to have a solid season in my opinion.
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- #225
Re: 2010: Make or Break for which players?
Jetta
Slattery
Lovett-Murray
WILL ALL BE GONE AT SEASONS END.
If Mcveigh has another average year put him on the trade table to scare him.
Jetta
Slattery
Lovett-Murray
WILL ALL BE GONE AT SEASONS END.
If Mcveigh has another average year put him on the trade table to scare him.
- Status
