Mega Thread Trade/Draft/Delist SuperMegaUltrathread - 2016/17 offseason edition

[QS]

Reckon we can start a rumour Jack Watts to West Coast?

 

[Coasters74]

We are talking really good midfielders that can adapt on instict. I don't subscribe to the game plan complexity myth. It's football not military offensive strategic planning

I understand that but how are we trading in those types of players without destroying our backline or forward line? There are only a handful of those types of players in the league and everyone is expecting we're going to be able to trade one in for a first rounder. Great teams are built on drafting groups of players, not trading for one specific player (unless its a gun like danger) look at where trading has got richmond and North, to scared of bottoming out so they are forever mid table. If our midfield is a bad as it looks then 1-2 players aren't going to magically change it in the space of a year (that's assuming we can actually get them in). Geelong already had a decent midfield before danger came along

 

[RookiePick]

I've mentioned it before, but Dusty isn't likely to move to Adelaide and he's definitely not moving to WA for one simple reason, his father.

For those who missed it, his dad got deported to New Zealand and Dusty often flies over and visits him mid-week.

If he moved to Adelaide he would get less chances to do this, if he moved to Perth his chances of doing this are virtually nil.

If Dusty moved it will be to another Melbourne club or maybe Sydney or Brisbane, something that is within reasonable flying time to NZ.

WA secedes from the federation.
We bring in Dusty's dad
Trade in Dusty

2 birds with one stone

 

[Keys]

Could someone tell me the keys date for trade period this year, like trade week, draft night etc. Might be worth adding to the first post in that other thread?

I couldn't find on afl.com

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-05-16/when-is-the-2016-afl-trade-period

When does the 2016 NAB AFL free agency and trade period start and finish?
Here are the indicative key dates for this year's exchange period:

Friday October 7 - NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins

Monday October 10, 10am* - NAB AFL Trade Period begins

Sunday October 16, 5pm - Close of NAB AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period

Wednesday October 19 - NAB AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends

Thursday October 20, 2pm – NAB AFL Trade Period closes

How else can players switch clubs?
Delisted players become free agents and can join new clubs during any of the three NAB AFL delisted player free agency windows.

Once clubs have delisted a player, they will receive no compensation should that player be signed by a new club.

The key dates for delisted free agents are as follows:

Tuesday November 1 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins

Tuesday November 8 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes

Thursday November 10 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) begins

Friday November 18 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (2) closes

Saturday November 26 - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) begins

Sunday November 27, 2pm - NAB AFL delisted player free agency period (3) closes

Monday November 30, 2pm - Final AFL club list lodgement

Delisted players can also nominate for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft.

When are the 2016 NAB AFL Draft and Rookie Drafts?
The NAB AFL Draft heads to Sydney in 2016. The draft will be held on Friday, November 25.

The NAB AFL Pre-season and Rookie Drafts will be held from 4pm on Monday, November 28.

*all times are AEDT

I've also updated the OP of the news thread - that was a good idea

 

[CM9000]

Anyone keen on Brandon Ah Chee? I've seen him only a couple times this year but he seems to be tracking pretty well.

 

[avishka5]

Anyone keen on Brandon Ah Chee? I've seen him only a couple times this year but he's tracking pretty well.

not really don't need more depth types clogging our list.

 

[CM9000]

not really don't need more depth types clogging our list.

So you don't think he could develop into a best 22 midfielder?

 

[swooshacummings]

I understand that but how are we trading in those types of players without destroying our backline or forward line? There are only a handful of those types of players in the league and everyone is expecting we're going to be able to trade one in for a first rounder. Great teams are built on drafting groups of players, not trading for one specific player (unless its a gun like danger) look at where trading has got richmond and North, to scared of bottoming out so they are forever mid table. If our midfield is a bad as it looks then 1-2 players aren't going to magically change it in the space of a year (that's assuming we can actually get them in). Geelong already had a decent midfield before danger came along

Trading has been a huge part of the success at Hawthorn.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I think Yeo is far better suited forward than midfield.

He would be more suited forward if he didn't shit his pants shooting for goals and for me, he is not accountable enough on picking up his man when playing forward.

 

[Galileo9]

Lobb could play FF freeing up Jk to play CHF where he would basically be a big roaming midfielder/forward

Hahaha ah yes, get him into midfield. Classic suggestion.

Nek minnit barrass to midfield.

 

[dajesmac]

Anyone think this Hogan thing has to be some sort of smokescreen? Are we trying to downplay our desire for Lobb?

Maybe that doesn't make sense but it's just odd that the WCE Facebook page is now getting around it with the 'is it time to bring him home'? I feel like if we were actually into him it's in our nature to be a bit more discreet.

 

[Figure09]

lecras to ruck

 

[avishka5]

So you don't think he could develop into a best 22 midfielder?

he has shown nothing in the last year or so and struggled to break into a poor side. if we had a decent midfield we could have taken a punt but we are not in that position. I don't see him breaking into our b22 either. I have more confidence in kids like duggan, nelson and parto coming on in the next 18 months. I mock hutchings at time and did state ah chee is upgrade on him but hutchings ability to tag has made him an asset now.

 

[the harry]

Anyone think this Hogan thing has to be some sort of smokescreen? Are we trying to downplay our desire for Lobb?

Maybe that doesn't make sense but it's just odd that the WCE Facebook page is now getting around it with the 'is it time to bring him home'? I feel like if we were actually into him it's in our nature to be a bit more discreet.

I was surprised the club published that article, with that headline.

Not sure what the end goal is or whether they are genuinely trying to be better at providing content to the supporters however.

 

[JohnW]

That logic doesn't really hold up because in that instance why would you ever use a non top ten draft pick when you could continuously trade them in for serviceable players? I think if you have a first round pick, as a recruiter you should be backing yourself to pick a player likely to be a best 22 player for a long period of time.

And hindsight tells us we chose a good time not to do what you are suggesting. Because any one we would have reasonably picked up would have been worse than red dog, and showing not great potential.

 

[truman]

Trading has been a huge part of the success at Hawthorn.

As has drafting.

 

[truman]

And hindsight tells us we chose a good time not to do what you are suggesting. Because any one we would have reasonably picked up would have been worse than red dog, and showing not great potential.

What? When you are weighing up to keep a draft pick or target a mature player you expect that the mature player is going to have more of an impact early but for a shorter period of time, whereas you would expect the draft pick to make an impact a bit later down the track but for a longer period of time. As of now Redden has barely shown more then what a first round draft pick would have shown. At the end of the day when you recruit a first round draft pick you don't necessarily expect them to be in your best 22 in their first year and redden in his first year wasn't in the best 22, only difference is he is 7 years older.

Like I said, I honestly believe Redden is a very good player and he will be much better next year. However, thus far, hindsight indicates that trading away our first round pick for middle aged player who ended the year clearly out of the best 22 has not been a good outcome. Again I'm expecting Redden to be worth the pick but so far he hasn't been.

 

[eagles rule]

Anyone think this Hogan thing has to be some sort of smokescreen? Are we trying to downplay our desire for Lobb?

Maybe that doesn't make sense but it's just odd that the WCE Facebook page is now getting around it with the 'is it time to bring him home'? I feel like if we were actually into him it's in our nature to be a bit more discreet.

Lobb is still in his finals campaign so the professional thing to do is too wait till season end .
Hogan and Lobb are contracted till next year so one of them will have to wait till next year before joining us .I would prefer to get Lobb this year and Hogan the following year ..
jokes

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[flyinghi64]

Any thoughts on Hartlet??
I read a few weeks ago he may be looking for a new home.
I mentioned it a few pages back but no mention on him since.
If he is gettable at a reasonable price I think he could fill a role quite well, injuries aside as they are just part and parcel of the game.

 

[Wangchung82]

Any thoughts on Hartlet??
I read a few weeks ago he may be looking for a new home.
I mentioned it a few pages back but no mention on him since.
If he is gettable at a reasonable price I think he could fill a role quite well, injuries aside as they are just part and parcel of the game.

The reason there is no response is because he doesn't "fill" any of our needs.
Goes missing regularly and isn't even a midfielder, generally plays loose of hbf.

 

[swooshacummings]

As has drafting.

When drafting wasn't enough they traded. When they traded they won premierships.

 

[reimersworstguy]

The reason there is no response is because he doesn't feel any of our needs.
Goes missing regularly and isn't even a midfielder, generally plays loose of hbf.

is a midfielder? yes.
elite at his best? yes.

We should be enquiring.

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[westoz]

I'd like us to put a deal like that together for a gun midfielder ..Sloane anyone or suggestions .


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St Kilda made him a big offer last season and he's from Victoria,hes not going anywhere.

 

[pantskyle]

Pretty surprised that our social media are mentioning Hogan.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Or we could allow the coleman medalist to do what he does best and not pollute what works with the arichmond method

What does he do best? Do Coleman medals win finals??Dont think so matey,you need to think outside the box.Hes a good long kick for goals,great chaser and tackler,left and right foot,good decision maker,only weakness? probably his pack marking.Does that sound like a pure Full Forward? If you pigeon-hole people you take away a lot of flexability.Why do you think he gets shut down so much in finals?You dont need the Fevolas of this world to win finals.