List Mgmt. Trade/Draft/Targets Part II

[Mr Magic]

Whilst i do agree with you in parts there are players like Menadue that have come on to be really good players and some stars
Grimes very similar build to menadue , I think its more about the way the player reads the ball and play and how much of a footballer he is (IQ)

Menadue is bigger / faster & Stronger than a player like stack in his 1st year or similar size to Stephenson from pies but just doesnt have that footballer instinct and looks timid. Love for him to just grow some B**** and get agro and play the game like he did as a 17 year old

I did not think Grimes was a lighter player around draft time significantly. However, Grimes was picked up at the backend of procedures from us thankfully.

The point is later pick less risk.

So my approach is not exclude categorically just on comparative weightings(no pun intended) have others ahead.

There is light and then there is real light to.

Deledio was not real light, probably light side of average. Menadue, Jack Martin, Fiora, and David Bourke where real light.

Day is not absolutely real light but when factoring in height and his leg muscle/density he is on the pretty much on the real lightish side. I cannot remember Fyfe at draft time but was he that light?? The hips are important, and the frame is important, and why I do not necessarily subscribe to Mathews necessarily he did like larger bumbs

For me I have 3 players at lest determined as second rounders before Day at RFC's first pick based on his lightness.

If Day's footage was exceptional it may sway me but for me I can see prospects just as exciting without the risk available before Day so I pick them on my criteria.

The thing with light players, its not just about muscle, bone growth, density and size become relevant in terms of frame I think

 

[THE_GUN]

I did not think Grimes was a lighter player around draft time significantly. However, Grimes was picked up at the backend of procedures from us thankfully.

The point is later pick less risk.

So my approach is not exclude categorically just on weightings have others ahead

Grimes was 192cm 78kgs when he was drafted but was just making the point that Grimes/Menadue have very similar builds

 

[Mr Magic]

Grimes was 192cm 78kgs when he was drafted but was just making the point that Grimes/Menadue have very similar builds

78 is more than 70. I think Menadue was clearly lighter and we know Fiora was a stick. I know Grimes was taller but a kg more or so makes a difference and how the weight is dispersed over the body allowing for future bone/muscle growth. Some guys can be very fit and carry little weight across the stomach

 

[Meli]

Shoulda taken our offer....

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[Wrenny]

Cooper Stephens update: Tiges have indeed talked to him (as expected) and he would be ecstatic to get there. He supports the Hawks.

 

[THE_GUN]

Cooper Stephens update: Tiges have indeed talked to him (as expected) and he would be ecstatic to get there. He supports the Hawks.

Would be very happy with Cooper , He fits a need and combined with RCD / Ross / Graham they will form a pretty tough midfield in a couple of years when Cotchin and co finish up

 

[Wrenny]

Fraser Turner trying to get his mate Mitch O'Neill drafted to the Tiges

 

[Marcel Proust]

Fraser Turner trying to get his mate Mitch O'Neill drafted to the Tiges

Tasmanian's seem to be good

 

[Wrenny]

 

[Wrenny]

They finished top of the ladder. But the Cats are set for an audacious draft play

They finished top of the ladder. But the Cats are set for an audacious draft play

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"Injured midfielder Cooper Stephens could be snapped up by Richmond with Pick 19, with the Tigers also interested in Hugo Ralphsmith and Will Day."

Cooper Stephens
Mitch O'Neill
Hugo Ralphsmith
Hilder/Finlay/Ruscoe
Darcy Cassar/Fraser Phillips

 

[Cotchy9]

They finished top of the ladder. But the Cats are set for an audacious draft play

They finished top of the ladder. But the Cats are set for an audacious draft play

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"Injured midfielder Cooper Stephens could be snapped up by Richmond with Pick 19, with the Tigers also interested in Hugo Ralphsmith and Will Day."

Cooper Stephens
Mitch O'Neill
Hugo Ralphsmith
Hilder/Finlay/Ruscoe
Darcy Cassar/Fraser Phillips

Where would Stephens have gone if not injured this year? Sounds like he’d be a bargain at 19

 

[4tune8]

Where would Stephens have gone if not injured this year? Sounds like he’d be a bargain at 19

Geelong will snap him up at 17

 

[Marcel Proust]

Geelong will snap him up at 17

trade #19 and a future 2nd, for #17, then

 

[Wrenny]

Geelong will snap him up at 17

Have a feeling they'll trade up so you never know.

 

[THE_GUN]

Im sure Mitch will be reading Bigfooty along with his mate fraser turner and both are watching my selections in the phantom draft

ROUND 3
41 - GWS - joshua shute
42 - Richmond - Mitch O'Neill
43 - St Kilda - Bigoa Nyoun
44 - Carlton - Jack Mahoney

 

[OptimusGrimes]

Any chance we jump in to some pick swaps? Maybe bundle some of our later picks into something earlier or next year?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

What a draft hand 5 picks < 56

and 6 blokes already on the list ,who should be available in Rnd 1 , that would walk into any others clubs best 22 and who didn’t play in our Premiership team .
Rance , Stack , Ross , McIntosh , RCD, CCJ

 

[THE THIN MAN]

101 profiles: Get to know the top players ahead of the NAB AFL Draft

 

[THE THIN MAN]

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

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The first night.
They only do Rnd 1?

 

[Marcel Proust]

I don't like Gould for the opposite reason as Day.

For me physically do not match up currently so I would not pick neither until later in the draft even if they do become stars.

If someone else can turn them into gold good luck to them and may they command grand salaries!!

See someone like Mitch Georgiades might have not done as much as Gould and Day but for me I pick Mitch before because athletically and body shape he is sounder even though he might be rate 10-20 selections further down based on output performance wise over the course of the journey. This is by the profiles to, I have not seen a lot of vision of these although I seen a bit of Day for a minute
If you speak to some of the contemporaries kid candidates around the country some say the AFL pick athletes so they are aware of certain criteria that might come against them. To me its a combination and based on my observation over the years picks like Day and Gould are too risky at this stage before 30 anyway. I hope Gould and Day become superstars and good luck to them if they do, but historically in my opinion they have to cross a lot of bridges others have not managed to achieve and who knows, some analyser might see something thats the key and if he/she is that good they will shine with other selection comparisons as well which will put him or her ahead of the pack eventually. Based on physicals I have Day ahead of Gould but who knows what happens when they apply themselves in the big show

Does this mean for mine Day and Gould do not get selected? Of course not, they get selected and deserve their chance but I have them a little further down the pecking order or a risk/return basis as a analyser than others may have.

Its the reason why I went Blakely before Menadue in their draft. I like Menadue to, he filled out more than I thought he may have, he still may make it, he tackled and contributed well but his shape still makes him outside and less versatile IMO.

Compare Menadue to Deledio when drafted. Lids had a little more beef but was also not heavy but at the end Lids was quite muscular, probably slightly too muscular in the arms for the role he played but was a very good player nonetheless

gould will be fine i am guessing

like jack graham

 

[THE_GUN]

Im not really concerned about Gould's weight as he is not over weight but more just a very solid unit and is big every where 'Arms.Legs,Shoulders etc
What is concerning is his combine testing which was particularly bad specially his 20mtr sprint and YoYo

 

[Mr Magic]

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gould will be fine i am guessing

like jack graham

I agree with Gun, its not his size but the speed and yoyo.

Graham plays a different role.

I just think Gould is not the type of player RFC would be targeting now to help our team honestly.

Can't see us going hard for a KPP atm

 

[Marcel Proust]

I agree with Gun, its not his size but the speed and yoyo.

Graham plays a different role.

I just think Gould is not the type of player RFC would be targeting now to help our team honestly.

Can't see us going hard for a KPP atm

being a good player in a SANFL GF (premiership) at 17/18 is a good sign? in regard to speed and fitness?

I think the KPP stocks could use a bolstering. Chol, Garthwaite, Miller and co. are a bit iffy. If we dont land the undersized KPP gould id be ok with mcansty / worrell

Im not really concerned about Gould's weight as he is not over weight but more just a very solid unit and is big every where 'Arms.Legs,Shoulders etc
What is concerning is his combine testing which was particularly bad specially his 20mtr sprint and YoYo

who was it that said i wonder how diesel would go at draft camp

 

[guruisatiger]

I agree with Gun, its not his size but the speed and yoyo.

Graham plays a different role.

I just think Gould is not the type of player RFC would be targeting now to help our team honestly.

Can't see us going hard for a KPP atm

He obviously doesn't use a Coca Cola yo yo