List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2018/2019 - Part 3

[regpies]

Any love for Billy Longer (26) or Lewis Pierce (24)? Good back up, even as a rookie.

Did Longer ever play a great game? We should be trying to find another Mihocek in a State league instead

 

[Thatsmyname]

Sam Gray has asked to explore other opportunities, really good numbers for a small forward, on his day capable of a bag of four and 30 disposals, wonder if he wants a flag? averages almost 17.4 disposals, a goal a game and 3.5 tackles, 28 next year

Sam Gray of the Sydney Swans Player Profile and AFL Stats

Sam Gray of the Sydney Swans profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

 

[DerekZoolander]

Any love for Billy Longer (26) or Lewis Pierce (24)? Good back up, even as a rookie.

Is Longer better than Max Lynch? I'd rather Lynch than Pierce that's for sure.

 

[regpies]

They said he Agreed to join Richmond the year before and they won the Flag and we where bottom 6 and not looking like Climbing back up the Ladder any time soon

Richmond didn’t look near it the year before the flag.

Our issue is we went after him too late when Richmond had already done a lot of work on him

 

[regpies]

He wont be cheap for the pies but the blues would get him for a packet of chips

GWS would want a top 10 pick from us, would trade him to Greater Western Carlton for pick 60.

If Bonar is on 400k I can’t believe he wasn’t part of their salary cap clearance sale last year.

 

[regpies]

Ricky Nixon reckons Aiden Bonar linked to us.

I think we were very keen on him in his draft year. Don’t know why we want him, he’s just another midfielder.

We need key position players as a priority.

Tomlinson is possibly leaving GWS isn’t he? Would be a good get to cover constantly injured tall defenders

 

[DerekZoolander]

I think we were very keen on him in his draft year. Don’t know why we want him, he’s just another midfielder.

We need key position players as a priority.

Tomlinson is possibly leaving GWS isn’t he? Would be a good get to cover constantly injured tall defenders

We need a young midfielder, Pendles Beams Sidey and Wells nearing the end but agree, key position players a priority.

 

[Rorzza]

I like the Nixon rumour, hope it's true!

 

[Apex36]

Richmond didn’t look near it the year before the flag.

Our issue is we went after him too late when Richmond had already done a lot of work on him

No, we were after him early. Our problem was that our GM of football who built up the relationship with him got shafted by us and went to Richmond...

 

[adammania9]

Sam Gray has asked to explore other opportunities, really good numbers for a small forward, on his day capable of a bag of four and 30 disposals, wonder if he wants a flag? averages almost 17.4 disposals, a goal a game and 3.5 tackles, 28 next year

Sam Gray of the Sydney Swans Player Profile and AFL Stats

Sam Gray of the Sydney Swans profile and AFL statistics.

www.footywire.com

He's an even bigger front runner than Hoskin-Elliott. Leave him to Carlton.

 

[Thatsmyname]

He's an even bigger front runner than Hoskin-Elliott. Leave him to Carlton.

Everyone says that about forwards but it's the worst job on the ground

 

[Sea fog]

Tomlinson is rumoured to want to stay at GWS/

 

[HFF]

Tomlinson is rumoured to want to stay at GWS/

Good.
We have no need for him.

Hardly an KPP and we’ve got better midfielders which is where he predominantly has been playing for years now.

 

[partypie]

Any love for Billy Longer (26) or Lewis Pierce (24)? Good back up, even as a rookie.

Not if they were the last two ruckman available ever.

Longer is a potato. Pierce had significant ongoing concussion issues from a hit in in the JLT.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Josh Bruce would be a good get especially if we lose Elliott, I'd do a straight swap.

 

[HFF]

Josh Bruce would be a good get especially if we lose Elliott, I'd do a straight swap.

Elliott is staying by all reports.
We need to be careful.

Cap space is also premium for us this off season leading into next.

 

[Bramax]

Well it can. Howe and WHE are a case in point. I think we were unlucky with Lynch that he is good mates with Prestia and the Tigers has the good sense to VFL list his sister.

Pity for him he’ll never be a Premiership player now. Could’ve come to Collingwood and retired as a Magpie legend and Premiership player.

 

[Bramax]

Jesus they must be Bad as ours Been Horrendus.

Hasn't he been on Drugs?

Only his calf muscles

 

[Bramax]

Murray and Noble are both rookie listed. Happy for Noble, I think he’ll be a very good player, not Murray. He needs to earn his way back like Thomas did if the club decides to retain him.
No issue with Broomhead being rookied, but I have a feeling his papers have been stamped.

Don’t let Broomy go until Grundy is resigned.

 

[Bramax]

They’ll have a stack of draft picks to get rid of by the time trade week is over. If we want to get back into this draft, they would be where I would start.

Any chance we could engineer a trade for Martin? Or does his remunerative asking price rule us out? If we traded two players for one, could we squeeze him in the cap.

 

[Bramax]

Richmond didn’t look near it the year before the flag.

Our issue is we went after him too late when Richmond had already done a lot of work on him

I thought we’d been into him for a couple of years.

 

[Bramax]

GWS would want a top 10 pick from us, would trade him to Greater Western Carlton for pick 60.

If Bonar is on 400k I can’t believe he wasn’t part of their salary cap clearance sale last year.

After signing Coniglio on 7 yrs at a mill per year, and having Kelly, Cameron, Davis, Ward, Greene, Whitfield, Hopper, Himmelberg and Taranto on their list, they must have some serious cap issues coming. Kelly and Cogs on big, big money, Cameron must be too. That takes a big bite out of the cap. I expect they will have to shed some high level players in the next year or so. Patten will relieve some cap pressure but I’m not sure he would’ve been on huge dollars given his injury run. I’d love to target Whitfield. He was a Pies supporter too, not that it means much because Flynch was too.

 

[Bramax]

We should get Carlisle

He’s the height of Roughy and 106kgs. Big guy and had great mits, always has been a good mark. Never played the level of footy at Saints as he did at Essendon but he turns 28 in October. I know he’s had his dramas, but if you could get him without giving up a lot and could pay him unders (Saints May pay some of his wage), he could be a good pick up. Doesn’t come without risk so it would need to be a good deal.

 

[Bramax]

Negligent not to do our due diligence on Harley you say? I'd guess it's going to be a long and exhaustive cost benefit analysis that might have an executive summary somewhere along these lines:
Due Diligence on Harley Bennell:
Done nothing on the field for 5 years: check
Done plenty off the field: check
Injury prone older player: check
Unprofessional: check
Drugs: check
Mental health issues: check
Swanny approves: check
Did I mention injury prone?: Check.

Welcome to Collingwood Harley.

I’ve got to agree. I remember him playing with GC and thinking this guy is just a super talent. Awesome player.
But if he was squeaky clean, no controversies, ultra professional but just injury prone, maybe, just maybe you’d throw him a lifeline and IF he overcome his calf issues, you’d hit paydirt. But that’s not the case. He has more baggage than LAX and he’s a risk with his calf tears. It’s a no for me.

 

[Bramax]

Not sure where to put this, but this seems like the most appropriate spot. How would people like this list going into 2020?:

	Scott Pendlebury
	Travis Varcoe
	Chris Mayne
	Ben Reid
	Dayne Beams
	Jeremy Howe
	Jordan Roughead
	Steele Sidebottom
	Mason Cox
	Josh Thomas
	Jamie Elliott
	Adam Treloar
	Rupert Wills
	Will Hoskin-Elliott
	Taylor Adams
	Jack Crisp
	Brodie Grundy
	Tom Langdon
	Matthew Scharenberg
	James Aish
	Darcy Moore
	Jordan De Goey
	Tom Phillips
	Brayden Maynard
	Ben Crocker
	Brayden Sier
	Callum Brown
	Josh Daicos
	Jaidyn Stephenson
	Tyler Brown
	Nathan Murphy
	Isaac Quaynor
	Will Kelly
	Atu Bosenavulagi
Pick 33	???
Pick 51	???
Pick 64	Brody Mihocek
Pick 69	Max Lynch
Rookie Cat A	Flynn Appleby
Rookie Cat A	Tim Broomhead
Rookie Cat A	Jack Madgen
Rookie Cat A	Sam Murray
Rookie Cat A	John Noble
Rookie Cat A	???
Rookie Cat B	Mark Keane
Rookie Cat B	Anton Tohill
Rookie Cat B	Tom Wilson

Retire/delist/trade - Wells, Dunn, Goldsack, Greenwood

Re-sign - Varcoe (1 year), Reid (1 year), Elliott (3 years), Wills (2 years), Crocker (1 year), Sier (2 years), Lynch (2 years, Senior List upgrade), Madgen (1 year, Rookie List), Broomhead (1 year, Rookie List), Noble (1 year, Rookie List), Murray (1 year, Rookie List)

Rookie List upgrades - Mihocek (Pick #64, National Draft), Lynch (Pick #69, National Draft)

In this, it's a choice between Varcoe, Reid and Greenwood, with Greenwood not being recontracted. Just feel like the former two have more value and are less replaceable going forward.

People might see the retention/resigning of some of those blokes as controversial, and the lack of draft picks and new talent potentially coming in as stagnation. However, I'd like to see us somewhat "stay put" for a year (particularly with out younger players), and try and wring as much as possible out of the guys we've got. This also gives us a number of potential delistees at the end of 2020, when we have further National Draft picks available that we will need to accommodate for.

And a heap of delistees frees up cap space quickly.