List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 10

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Trade & Free Agency Dates

Free Agency Period - Friday October 4th 9am to Friday October 11th 5pm

Trade Period - Monday 7th October 9am to Wednesday October 16th 7.30pm

Richmond have been linked to the following players:
Ben Hobbs
Elijah Tsatas
Jai Culley
Connor Stone
Jacob Konstanty

 

[Groupie_]

both gc and freo will panick at the end

rfc will not as we have no problem keeping them both. blair will
be as cool as a cucumber in the last minute of trade period

pay up or suck eggs for years, simple

 

[Boxo004]

So are people wanting more than pick 6 for Rioli? I think that’s good on its own tbh.

We’ll be getting Jagga/Lalor with that pick.

Pick 6 for the player. Then a sweetener to cover the contract.

 

[tigersnag]

AFL trade radio

10% mindless banter
30% guesswork
60% ads

Especially the 2x 14 year old girls Cal & Riley

 

[tiger_tough]

If it was a choice, 10 & 11 or 10 & North F1?

10 & 11 easily

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

It will.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

will riolis missus stay in melb if a deal doesnt get done ?

Dan to train with Suns.
Play for us on w/ends.

 

[UpTheGutz]

Pick 6 for the player. Then a sweetener to cover the contract.

Dan Rioli will never be worth more.
And he will never be worth more to anyone else than he is to GC, this year.
6, plus TBA, is coming. Dan is going.

 

[Groupie_]

they are panicking

 

[Noidnadroj]

i can't understand people saying "trade into next year". Unless you're targeting a player it makes absolutely no sense. We have an all time draft crop and they're saying guys going at 25 could easily be top 10 in other years. It also means you push back the list development 12 months.

Use the every pick possible while the high end quality is there. You would only trade back your picks north of 30 for future trades scenarios and points. If they are being used why use them in 12 months and just make the list younger next year when it didn't neee to be.

There’s little doubt we will turn at least one of our 20’s picks into a F1. And I think another will slide to collect another couple of 2nds and 3rds, as we did last year going from 35 to 40 and picking up a 2nd and 3rd in the process.

In fact I think it’s very realistic we turn a late teens or early 20’s pick into a couple of future seconds by sliding, then trade a mid-20’s pick for a F1 from a top team.

So pick 18 or 20 turns into a F1 and 2 x F2’s.

This is why Blair isn’t doing interviews … he’s setting up his chessboard while other list managers are playing checkers.


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[voorhees]

the guy on TR said Shai wants to go to Freo after Baker picked West Coast.


absolute BS, Shai would like to go to WA in time but is happy to stay. They love to create a BS narrative to suit their propaganda

happy to stay = is complete BS
don't care what limp excuse he puts up- he wants out.

 

[4tune8]

Lol that's not the full context for anyone that actually listened.

I didn't listen, any chance of a summary?

 

[Meteoric Rise]

10 & 11 easily

Pick 11 will be actual pick 13 at the draft. North should improve a fair bit next year but you would have to take their f1 over 13 at this draft. North's f1 is still likely to be a top 6-8 pick on draft night, even if they improve sharply.

 

[docko911]

So are people wanting more than pick 6 for Rioli? I think that’s good on its own tbh.

We’ll be getting Jagga/Lalor with that pick.

GC can’t use their picks after pick 6 because they’ll get chewed up by the Lombard bid. He didn’t do them any favours at the combine either as he dominated the sprint and agility tests. He probably goes top 10, possibly even top 5.

The reason why we should be trying to get more is because we have points, and the ability to help GC get future picks.

Brisbane would take pick 29 and 32 for a future first. We can then give GC later picks with as many points or more than pick 29. That means they get the future first they are after + the points they need for Lombard.

In this situation we take pick 13. In the situation we don’t get pick 13 we’d be offering a couple of late picks back if they include pick 23.

The problem is Collingwood have tried to dazzle them with their future first. Collingwood also have picks 36, 52 and 55 so can give them back points. I read Collingwood asked for picks 13, 23 and 29. My guess is they will try to package up 29 and 36 for Brisbanes future first to replace their own or pick 20. They will probably hand GC picks 52 and 55 for points, maybe even Ports pick 39/58 which I imagine they will try to acquire when they get Houston. They will use picks 13 and 23 for Houston.

Basically Collingwood could turn their shitty draft hand and Noble into Houston. And depending on where they and Brisbane finish next year might actually end up with a better first, or they’ll do better with pick 20 this year.

The only thing standing in the way of this deal is us and Rioli.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

if I was freo I wouldnt even get bolton id rather take the picks to the draft

Don't mind keeping Bolton for pick swaps.
61/70/76 for 10/11/18

 

[THE_GUN]

Then we’re back here, next year, still really bad, with players a year older, injury risk between now and then, with suitors with fewer good picks, in a crap draft.

No rush, get them done best, but get them done.

Or we are back to where Sydney was with papley and he extends

 

[tora tora tora]

Pick 6 for the player. Then a sweetener to cover the contract.

ethan read be sufficient

 

[Grrr]

So are people wanting more than pick 6 for Rioli? I think that’s good on its own tbh.

We’ll be getting Jagga/Lalor with that pick.

Agreed. Pick 6 is a very good player in this draft, not much difference between 1 and 6 or 7. We paid 6 for Prestia who is frankly a better player and 3 years younger when we got him. And folk on here whinged about that.

But we have the whip hand, no we don't. Rioli and Bolton both want to leave, do we want players staying because they we wouldn't let them go. You go your hardest, ask for more, but if 6 is what it takes, you have to be happy with that.

 

[austyn08]

So are people wanting more than pick 6 for Rioli? I think that’s good on its own tbh.

We’ll be getting Jagga/Lalor with that pick.

we don’t trade out elite so we maximise this situation right now.
Let’s see how much the suns and freo value finals.

 

[tiger_tough]

Pick 11 will be actual pick 13 at the draft. North should improve a fair bit next year but you would have to take their f1 over 13 at this draft. North's f1 is still likely to be a top 6-8 pick on draft night, even if they improve sharply.

I'd still take 11 in a super draft, get the kid in and get 12 months development into him. Plus it could also be used to move up the order this year.

 

[Finn9]

If it was a choice, 10 & 11 or 10 & North F1?

Take the 10&F1 imo. I’m hesitant to push picks into next year because of how deep this draft is, but North’s F1 is almost as good as it gets.

It’s worth it for both staggering contracts, and death riding a basket case.

 

[prodigy]

I didn't listen, any chance of a summary?

They're going through all the players up for trade this year and Cal essentially said "Freo have offered 10 and 18, Richmond want 10 and 11 so there will be a bit of back and forth but I think it gets done".

 

[Groupie_]

why do freo have a problem they are a supposedly in the finals window and dont want to give up 6 spots in the draft to get bolton. peter bell doesnt operate smoothly , maybe he needs to be moved on

its now or never campaigners

 

[docko911]

Pick 11 will be actual pick 13 at the draft. North should improve a fair bit next year but you would have to take their f1 over 13 at this draft. North's f1 is still likely to be a top 6-8 pick on draft night, even if they improve sharply.

I can think of names available I’d really want at 13. Although if Gold Coast gave us pick 6 + 13 and their future first in exchange for Rioli and Norfs future first, I’m in.

 

[Barunga Bullet]

If it was a choice, 10 & 11 or 10 & North F1?

option 2 definitley

 

[4tune8]

They're going through all the players up for trade this year and Cal essentially said "Freo have offered 10 and 18, Richmond want 10 and 11 so there will be a bit of back and forth but I think it gets done".

Reads substantially different to that Twit post