List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 9

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[TiggerMan22]

Higgins played the most games amongst players who didn't win a premiership medal, although in 2019 that corresponded to that terrible injury he received. I have never rated him as an A grade forward. He has had some good games at the Saints, but lacks consistency. Even Saints supporter have bagged him on occasion (although not last weekend).

Brown has come on leaps and bounds and with more experience would back him to be a better player.

Lacks consistency is a bit of an overstatement. Small-medium forward is one of the hardest positions the game to play with any consistency when you're opportunities are heavily dependent on your teammates.

Also I think his consistency is between kicking a goal or 2 a game and being a genuine game winner. His floor is a lotta small forwards ceilings.

He kicked at least a goal in 16/20 games he played this season, 12/20 with 2+ goals, 5/20 games of 3+. Over the 4 seasons at the Saints hes only been goalless 13 of 79 games.

 

[TiggerMan22]

If we lose Rioli, Bolton, Baker and Lynch we will definately finish bottom again.

Possibly, but maybe not. Teams are more than just the individual players. On paper we will be much weaker for sure, but improvement in gameplan and execution of it, new draftees, some young guys making making that leap and less injuries can easily see us actually be better.

Just going into the year without the guys that are leaving and retiring opens up the list and the 22. Theres suddenly a lot of room for players to step up into and not feel like they're just keeping the spot warm until someone like Dusty is back from injury.

It's hard to see us not being bottom 4, but we wouldn't be a certain dead last.

 

[Truetiger]

None other than this one:

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But, they where never found guilty of tanking Despite the fine of $500,000

 

[Dragonss]

All those wanting Lukosius, he's never going to replace Lynch. He's competing with Bauer / Lefau or he's going to be put on the wing or at half back.


This was his write up in his draft year:
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/jack-lukosius/

IMPROVEMENTS

• Contested Marking
• Strength

Whilst there are very few flaws in his game, clubs wanting a dominant, contested-marking key forward will struggle to find those qualities in Lukosius. As has been previously mentioned, 'Luko' is not the type to haul down a big contested mark or break open a pack. In-fact, he may not even fly for these marks, instead preferring to stay balanced at ground level where his cleanliness and skills hold him in good stead. This may be as a result of his lack of strength. At 196cm and 84kg, he has at least a couple of kilograms to build up, which will be no problem for clubs when he enters their elite programs. However he will never be that monster key forward, and clubs will be well aware of this, as Lukosius offers plenty of other attributes.

 

[Mr Magic]

All those wanting Lukosius, he's never going to replace Lynch. He's competing with Bauer / Lefau or he's going to be put on the wing or at half back.


This was his write up in his draft year:
https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/jack-lukosius/

why would we be that dumb?

 

[Wavvey]

Could see others not being for it, but recruiting someone like Caleb Daniels could be a handy piece for the next couple of grim years. We are so depleted off half back at the moment especially when Rioli leaves. Our only player currently on the list that could potentially play his role would be Kaleb Smith and that’s a big responsibility to give to a late pick still finding their feet on the football field. I would imagine a draftee plays on one side whoever that is. I could see Jagga playing there in his first season to teach him how to be more damaging with the ball before he moves to the midfield permanently.

A late pick in the 50’s gets it done easy.

 

[Black Saab]

Possibly, but maybe not. Teams are more than just the individual players. On paper we will be much weaker for sure, but improvement in gameplan and execution of it, new draftees, some young guys making making that leap and less injuries can easily see us actually be better.

Just going into the year without the guys that are leaving and retiring opens up the list and the 22. Theres suddenly a lot of room for players to step up into and not feel like they're just keeping the spot warm until someone like Dusty is back from injury.

It's hard to see us not being bottom 4, but we wouldn't be a certain dead last.

There's also the potential shift in attitude towards owning the present to build the future.

By that I mean, the RFC on field, is now the sole domain of those players that will be on the seniors list after the trade and draft period. The on field domain will no longer belong to any of those departed players. The iconic names of the past will nearly all be gone. This new group get to write their own story instead of being part of a list that has already written theirs. This new list will no longer be linked to the expectations put upon the previous list. New horizons for a new team.

That's pretty big.

 

[Mr Magic]

Could see others not being for it, but recruiting someone like Caleb Daniels could be a handy piece for the next couple of grim years. We are so depleted off half back at the moment especially when Rioli leaves. Our only player currently on the list that could potentially play his role would be Kaleb Smith and that’s a big responsibility to give to a late pick still finding their feet on the football field. I would imagine a draftee plays on one side whoever that is. I could see Jagga playing there in his first season to teach him how to be more damaging with the ball before he moves to the midfield permanently.

A late pick in the 50’s gets it done easy.

no we need to receive a top 20 pick to take Daniel with us not giving up any picks to make this crystal clear, we are doing them a favour and they know it

 

[Wavvey]

no we need to receive a top 20 pick to take Daniel with us not giving up any picks to make this crystal clear, we are doing them a favour and they know it

I don’t see it as a favour for them at all. They’d gladly keep him on the list as back up, it’s more that he most likely wouldn’t want that at all.

 

[banana_bus]

Could see others not being for it, but recruiting someone like Caleb Daniels could be a handy piece for the next couple of grim years. We are so depleted off half back at the moment especially when Rioli leaves. Our only player currently on the list that could potentially play his role would be Kaleb Smith and that’s a big responsibility to give to a late pick still finding their feet on the football field. I would imagine a draftee plays on one side whoever that is. I could see Jagga playing there in his first season to teach him how to be more damaging with the ball before he moves to the midfield permanently.

A late pick in the 50’s gets it done easy.

Should be Tom Brown

 

[Wavvey]

Should be Tom Brown

Great ball user, but not a run and gun type

 

[blaisee]

Trading with Freo and GC, feels to me alot like playing an interstate team in a Grand Final at the MCG

I mean there will be some ups and downs, but in the end, you can be very confident, that in the end, everything is gunna work out just fine

In Blair we trust

 

[SleepingGiant]

Our players for picks.

 

[Finn9]

Absolute gun! Harley Reid type hype building around him. He’s from SA though and is a JHF type flight risk, Port or Crows will give up the world to get pick 1.

As a 16 year old he averaged 38 disposals, 10 marks, five tackles and six clearances in 11 games for central districts under 16’s. Was also SA’s top rated player in game 1 of this years national under 18’s championship’s

Things can change but he is a talent.

Is there legitimate mail he's a 'JHF type flight risk'????

 

[guruisatiger]

She left months ago didn't she?

Or does other half mean Port?

was mentioned on sen that his partner wasnt happy
i didnt realise she left i have NFI

 

[prodigy]

The Richmond section starts around 35.20. Few interesting insights surrounding list balance and not just focusing solely on the draft.

 

[guruisatiger]

The Richmond section starts around 35.20. Few interesting insights surrounding list balance and not just focusing solely on the draft.

Full of shit

 

[Ctl]

Beveridge on gettable saying baker and Graham are waiting on the eagles to appoint a coach before they nominate them

 

[tigs2010]

The Richmond section starts around 35.20. Few interesting insights surrounding list balance and not just focusing solely on the draft.

We will be able to attract talent and if we can get the right guys for the right price and in the right age bracket we will be fine. I think anything from Freo's pick (edit: their 2nd rounder not Bolton picks) or later should be tradable for a player as we have too many points to give to Brissy for pick 14.

Not buying the 6 or 7 years either given we will have so many first rounders in one hit including the pick of the bunch for a few years.

This isn't our first rodeo either. Who are our Houli and Grigg targets? Fringe player swap & a 3rd round pick offered (ended up PSD which was even better) Do GWS have a quickish half back behind Whit/Lachie Ash or Swans with a small forward behind Papsmear? Fahey & Konstanty come to mind. This was Blair's specialty at the start of the Dimma rebuild.

KPF is a hard position to moneyball. Hawks have done very well with Chol tbh, if we could get a comparable player for peanuts we'd be laughing.

 

[Coach_Required]

Beveridge on gettable saying baker and Graham are waiting on the eagles to appoint a coach before they nominate them

Why? They should just go

 

[Black Saab]

"So the ball is back in the middle then and with a clean bounce the umpire sends it up to start proceedings all over again.

Soldo gets first hands on it for Richmond but hits it to no real advantage. A pack is forming.

By bloody Bususto!! Finn O'Sullivan attacked the contest like a mad ram and has won what looked like a completely buried ball submerged beneath a human pile of football players. He's flicked it to the outside where McAuliffe takes possession. He then loops it by hand over to Lalor who is now in all types of space and moving forward. The Tigers are away again!!

Lalor sends a clever ball inside 50 about twenty meters out from goal. Armstrong hits the pack hard looking to take a grab but it's a hot footy and it gets punched away by that no name crab of a full back for Geelong holding his seemingly constant ineptitude at bay for the moment with that one decent defensive act.

But the sherrin is still alive inside Richmond's attacking 50. It bounces up on its end where Judson Clarke says "give it to me son" and takes possession and he turns this way and that then snaps a kick over his shoulder to

Bauer...Bauer....BAUERRRRRR!!!! who runs into the open goal mouth and powers it 40,000 rows back over the roaring cheer squad at the Punt road end! How did Clarke even see him all alone out the back there? That is some vision!

Forget those recent dark days Tiger fans this new mob is electrifying the MCG in ways that tops even Hardwick's men during their flag era.

I need a spell, take over young man..."

"It all began with O'Sullivan..."

 

[Herbyliscious]

With the possibility of 7-9 draft picks inside the top 30 and drafting 3 years' worth of talent in one go surely a draft party is at hand....

 

[RobsJourney]

Could we offer Essendon Hopper and Lynch for pick 8, and we pay a big portion of their salaries?

They get one extra midfielder that they probably need, and a key forward that they desperately need, and they give themselves a good chance at top 4 for the next few years.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

listening to that , and hearing that Ben Miller was our big positive and a lock for the next 5 years, is depressing

Ryan Mansell rated in the top 100 ( not sure what criteria they are using), but well done to him, few of our other boys need to channel his aggression and 100% effort week in week out.

We are the worst team in the competition for clearances. We were average in that area in our glory days too, but obviously will be a draft focus.

Probably the most damming statistic is we we didn’t have 1 player u23 that performed to expectations!!!!

 

[Rich01]

Beveridge on gettable saying baker and Graham are waiting on the eagles to appoint a coach before they nominate them

Why would they wait?
If they have already made a decision to go to the eagles, they clearly don’t care about who coaches them.