List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 8

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List Mgmt. - Trade & Free Agency Part 9

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[panatha1908]

Quick recap of what Tigs said on the pod (feel free to add anything I missed, or correct anything wrong):

• Baker not a guarantee to leave. Still a good chance to sign on, more likely closer to September if he does.
• North might look at some of our leaders (Nank prior to talks of him resigning, Prestia, TT and KMac the names mentioned). We might look at a fwd (Key or HF) and/or picks if it does occur for a very good player.
• Will draft best available with out top picks (so midfielders based on the current noise around the draft).
• Grimes very likely, almost certain, to retire end of this season.
• Will potentially look at a (young) key fwd next trade season (so not the one at the end of this season).

Edit 1: If a WA club comes for a big offer for Baker (2 first round picks, with one of them being top 4 or top 5, for example), we won't push Baker out the door, but there will be serious conversations being had. Baker also loves some of the younger players, and want to see them develop, being a factor with his want to potentially staying at Richmond.

Reminds me of the early 90s when we were bringing in players like Greg dear for their leadership

 

[Bojangles17]

Reminds me of the early 90s when we were bringing in players like Greg dear for their leadership

He was actually one of the better recruits , was it 95 or 2001 he had a very good year

 

[JackNah_8]

North are desperate to re build their culture so looking at Richmond’s list

 

[tigerfan1961]

I'd love the club to be in Ed Richards ear with all the noise about an unhappy playing group at the kennel. He'd slot in beautifully on a wing. Young, fast, good mark, good left foot.

God no! Watched most of their game on the weekend, he was pretty ordinary in quite a few instances

 

[tiger_tough]

God no! Watched most of their game on the weekend, he was pretty ordinary in quite a few instances

Like the entire team? He's a very good player.

 

[Tonythetiger]

Just a sort of random observation I thought I would add, not really sure where else to put it. I don't think we have a list that is adequately reflected by our current position of 17th. There is upside with proven performers and our injury list has been dreadful.

With that said, I think this year is a pretty good year to have low expectations and if we finish second bottom and get a top 2 pick it's a good result. The worse result is to have a full team to pick from and still be playing awfully. We will likely get the second pick in the MSD which would be great if we can nail it.

We are getting to look at the entire list this year and I think there is no real downside from that. It would be worse if we never won those flags and were rebuilding off a period of "almost" succeeding.

I just want to see us be smart and active this year with trades more so than free agents. Grimes and Prestia both need the tap on the shoulder that time is up. Baker I would be extremely disappointed to lose however we are more likely to get decent value for him vs a lot of the other guys that have walked for peanuts.

 

[bc27]

Quick recap of what Tigs said on the pod (feel free to add anything I missed, or correct anything wrong):

• Baker not a guarantee to leave. Still a good chance to sign on, more likely closer to September if he does.
• North might look at some of our leaders (Nank prior to talks of him resigning, Prestia, TT and KMac the names mentioned). We might look at a fwd (Key or HF) and/or picks if it does occur for a very good player.
• Will draft best available with out top picks (so midfielders based on the current noise around the draft).
• Grimes very likely, almost certain, to retire end of this season.
• Will potentially look at a (young) key fwd next trade season (so not the one at the end of this season).

Edit 1: If a WA club comes for a big offer for Baker (2 first round picks, with one of them being top 4 or top 5, for example), we won't push Baker out the door, but there will be serious conversations being had. Baker also loves some of the younger players, and want to see them develop, being a factor with his want to potentially staying at Richmond.

Personally I can’t see baker not already knowing he’s leaving to WA.

I very much doubt that players and their management don’t have the plans for moving state already decided well before the end of the season.

I wouldn’t think that baker will be waiting until last minute to decide to move his whole life interstate.

I think he’s gone.

 

[Morro]

For all the cry babies over Hops and TT and thinking the club is run by idiots. Their salary of 750K in two years will be equivalent in percentage of salary cap of what a 500K ish salary is now.

Richer than ever: Surprise top earners as 19 players crack $1m

More players than ever have been paid seven figures, overall wages hit new high

www.afl.com.au

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

I'd love the club to be in Ed Richards ear with all the noise about an unhappy playing group at the kennel. He'd slot in beautifully on a wing. Young, fast, good mark, good left foot.

God no! Watched most of their game on the weekend, he was pretty ordinary in quite a few instances

Has looked good at times and was quite solid when moved into the mids a few weeks ago but I haven’t been impressed with his body language lately. Seems a bit of a hothead.

Could be that cares a bit more than others; maybe frustrated with Bevo or something else but certainly wears his heart on his sleeve.

Was very steamed up in the rooms after the Bombers loss and demonstrative on the field. Anyone recruiting him would want to get to the bottom of that first.

I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if it was Bont letting loose but seemed a bit strange that it was a young player.

 

[tiger_tough]

For all the cry babies over Hops and TT and thinking the club is run by idiots. Their salary of 750K in two years will be equivalent in percentage of salary cap of what a 500K ish salary is now.

Richer than ever: Surprise top earners as 19 players crack $1m

More players than ever have been paid seven figures, overall wages hit new high

www.afl.com.au

How do we know their contracts don't don't get bumped up with the salary cap increase like most other contracts do though?

 

[Morro]

How do we know their contracts don't don't get bumped up with the salary cap increase like most other contracts do though?

well if we can believe they are on $700-$750K and cry over that, then why cant we believe that that is what they are getting paid?

 

[tiger_tough]

well if we can believe they are on $700-$750K and cry over that, then why cant we believe that that is what they are getting paid?

People can cry if they like IDGAF, but they reckon most clubs have included a percentage boost tied to the to the salary cap increase in their contracts. Essendon supposedly have not. We may not, no one really knows.

 

[Morro]

People can cry if they like IDGAF, but they reckon most clubs have included a percentage boost tied to the to the salary cap increase in their contracts. Essendon supposedly have not. We may not, no one really knows.

Its still worth mentioning is it not?

FWIW there was not a single mention if increases on their contracts in any report at the time or since, so I choose to believe it was pretty smart business with the longer contracts as both could have demanded more money and got it at other clubs.

 

[tigerfan1961]

Like the entire team? He's a very good player.

Don’t agree at all, but we are entitled to our opinions.

 

[tiger_tough]

Its still worth mentioning is it not?

FWIW there was not a single mention if increases on their contracts in any report at the time or since, so I choose to believe it was pretty smart business with the longer contracts as both could have demanded more money and got it at other clubs.

Settle down TigerImposter Morro

 

[Morro]

Settle down TigerImposter Morro

You ****n take that back, you take that back right ****n now.

 

[tiger_tough]

You *n take that back, you take that back right *n now.

 

[Morro]

Reported, super offensive and down right mean.

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

For all the cry babies over Hops and TT and thinking the club is run by idiots. Their salary of 750K in two years will be equivalent in percentage of salary cap of what a 500K ish salary is now.

Richer than ever: Surprise top earners as 19 players crack $1m

More players than ever have been paid seven figures, overall wages hit new high

www.afl.com.au

We got a look at what our midfield looks like without them, absolutely destroyed in the clearances , expect more of the same without them.

 

[JR82]

Don't think we'd offer much resistance to Prestia and Macca going, but there's no chance TT gets greenlit.

B&F in his first and only full season. Surely we're not even vaguely contemplating moving him on.

Even consider doing that & we can forget attracting players in the future if that's how we were to treat them. We got them across as it's well know we look after & treat our players well.

 

[Coach_Required]

Quick recap of what Tigs said on the pod (feel free to add anything I missed, or correct anything wrong):

• Baker not a guarantee to leave. Still a good chance to sign on, more likely closer to September if he does.
• North might look at some of our leaders (Nank prior to talks of him resigning, Prestia, TT and KMac the names mentioned). We might look at a fwd (Key or HF) and/or picks if it does occur for a very good player.
• Will draft best available with out top picks (so midfielders based on the current noise around the draft).
• Grimes very likely, almost certain, to retire end of this season.
• Will potentially look at a (young) key fwd next trade season (so not the one at the end of this season).

Edit 1: If a WA club comes for a big offer for Baker (2 first round picks, with one of them being top 4 or top 5, for example), we won't push Baker out the door, but there will be serious conversations being had. Baker also loves some of the younger players, and want to see them develop, being a factor with his want to potentially staying at Richmond.

There is no way we are getting two first round picks with one of them being a top 5 pick for Baker. That is fantasy stuff. Secondly and I think it has been said above but Baker isn't going to tell us he is going until later in the year about the same time we hope he signs on.

I reckon he is gone too.

 

[Coach_Required]

It was Sydney not West Coke that wanted our pick. They offered pick 8 amd 15.

Thanks, I knew it was someone. My point still valid, he was highly sort after and not considered a risk.

 

[tiger_tough]

Yeah no chance we get a top 5 pick for Baker, let alone another 1st round pick on top of that. La la land stuff.

 

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Yeah no chance we get a top 5 pick for Baker, let alone another 1st round pick on top of that. La la land stuff.

IMO it will be a pick in the teens and steak knives (either a later pick or fringe player we like) that comes back for Baker if he goes to Fremantle.

 

[tiger_tough]

IMO it will be a pick in the teens and steak knives (either a later pick or fringe player we like) that comes back for Baker if he goes to Fremantle.

Yeah I agree.