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[Mollythedolly]

I wonder if the applause indicates another debutant.

Or the return of WHE.

 

[stormskye]

If we go into the last round guaranteed first place on ladder

Would you just play the following players murley, Draper, begg, Krueger, fin (if fit) Carmichael

Just for a look ?

Nah. Problem is we have the bye after which means 2 weeks of no footy. Hard pass mate, the pre finals bye killed off any chance of resting players

 

[sr36]

If we go into the last round guaranteed first place on ladder

Would you just play the following players murley, Draper, begg, Krueger, fin (if fit) Carmichael

Just for a look ?

Nah. There's a bye after the last round. You want your full team playing in the last round rather than having two weeks off.

 

[Kes1984]

If we go into the last round guaranteed first place on ladder

Would you just play the following players murley, Draper, begg, Krueger, fin (if fit) Carmichael

Just for a look ?

Definitely not, when there's a pre finals bye. You put your best 23 out there before they have a week off to start the real stuff!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Frampton’s playing with a glove now?

 

[KinderSmock]

If we go into the last round guaranteed first place on ladder

Would you just play the following players murley, Draper, begg, Krueger, fin (if fit) Carmichael

Just for a look ?

I'd maybe entertaining resting one or two players and putting a Ginnivan, Carmichael or a Macrae in ... maybe throw Harrison into that mix as well. If we really wanted to, then I could see a Ryan or Allan debut. But I'm against playing players for the sake of it. If resting works to our advantage, then I'm lining up for it.

Throwing a player like Murley to the wolves is silly and there are too many examples of what happens when players aren't ready.

 

[stormskye]

I'd maybe entertaining resting one or two players and putting a Ginnivan, Carmichael or a Macrae in ... maybe throw Harrison into that mix as well. If we really wanted to, then I could see a Ryan or Allan debut. But I'm against playing players for the sake of it. If resting works to our advantage, then I'm lining up for it.

Throwing a player like Murley to the wolves is silly and there are too many examples of what happens when players aren't ready.

The whole team gets a rest after the final round

 

[KinderSmock]

The whole team gets a rest after the final round

I'm aware but some players could benefit from an extra week off. Geelong used it in 2022 ...

 

[Bianconeri]

Frampton’s playing with a glove now?

We won a premiership last time we had a gloved defender

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I'd maybe entertaining resting one or two players and putting a Ginnivan, Carmichael or a Macrae in ... maybe throw Harrison into that mix as well. If we really wanted to, then I could see a Ryan or Allan debut. But I'm against playing players for the sake of it. If resting works to our advantage, then I'm lining up for it.

Throwing a player like Murley to the wolves is silly and there are too many examples of what happens when players aren't ready.

There is a bye the week before the finals.

And why on earth would we start messing with our team stability & structures a week out from finals?

 

[Big Bryza]

We're not gifting games to 6 blokes in the final round.

The best 26-27 players is quite obvious, it's a matter of who gets selected on any given day pending form, injuries or the Collingwood 'flu'.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

We're not gifting games to 6 blokes in the final round.

The best 26-27 players is quite obvious, it's a matter of who gets selected on any given day pending form, injuries or the Collingwood 'flu'.

Agreed. We're struggling to fit in all the players who deserve to be in our best 22 and there are people on here suggesting that we debut VFL blokes a week before the finals bye

 

[The Royal Sampler]

There is a bye the week before the finals.

And why on earth would we start messing with our team stability & structures a week out from finals?

Just a thought; if players need to be managed (and let’s forget for a moment that McRae has said they won’t do it) then Wade could ramp up their training workload during the week, and it eliminates the risk of a contact injury such as Howe/Lipinski/Murphy/Maynard/Elliott have all suffered this season to date.

Anecdotally there’s no substitute for match fitness, but if Wade reckons he can tailor their workloads to have them optimal going in to finals, and it reduces their risk profile, I could be convinced…

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Just a thought; if players need to be managed (and let’s forget for a moment that McRae has said they won’t do it) then Wade could ramp up their training workload during the week, and it eliminates the risk of a contact injury such as Howe/Lipinski/Murphy/Maynard/Elliott have all suffered this season to date.

Anecdotally there’s no substitute for match fitness, but if Wade reckons he can tailor their workloads to have them optimal going in to finals, and it reduces their risk profile, I could be convinced…

Nah. No chance they'd be messing with team structure, stability on the eve of the finals with a bye included as well.

They will all get a week off. No need for two.

We've seen how poorly that has been for teams coming off a bye as it is without giving them 2 weeks off.

Finals time is not the time to start experimenting. We need all the players who will be part of the finals playing together for cohesion and confidence & ironing out all the things which need adjusting. Not throwing young kids in there to mess up the systems we've been working on all year.

 

[Sea fog]

Now that the bye has been added it is a bit foolhardy to rest players in the last round. They could go into the finals underdone, not to mention how little footy they would have played if we win first up and get another week off.

 

[3rdMan]

Nah. There's a bye after the last round. You want your full team playing in the last round rather than having two weeks off.

I could only see it for players with an injury that they could play with but would benefit from two weeks off. Similar to Elliott's three week break around the bye. Otherwise no.

 

[gouki88]

Nah. There's a bye after the last round. You want your full team playing in the last round rather than having two weeks off.

Especially with a win in the first final. Would get players out of their rhythm I imagine

 

[sideswipe]

Just a thought; if players need to be managed (and let’s forget for a moment that McRae has said they won’t do it) then Wade could ramp up their training workload during the week, and it eliminates the risk of a contact injury such as Howe/Lipinski/Murphy/Maynard/Elliott have all suffered this season to date.

Anecdotally there’s no substitute for match fitness, but if Wade reckons he can tailor their workloads to have them optimal going in to finals, and it reduces their risk profile, I could be convinced…

So put more load into blokes who need to be managed? That’s so crazy it just might work!


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[The Royal Sampler]

So put more load into blokes who need to be managed? That’s so crazy it just might work!


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More load during the week and less on game day. Consequently, less risk of contact injuries. I’m not saying it would work, but I wouldn’t rule it out simply because of groupthink.

 

[sideswipe]

More load during the week and less on game day. Consequently, less risk of contact injuries. I’m not saying it would work, but I wouldn’t rule it out simply because of groupthink.

I’m not with you? Are you suggesting resting blokes from playing and upping their loads to raise “fitness”? That might be ok for someone who needs the increased work.

But if they are in need of a rest, they need rest, not increased workloads.


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[The Royal Sampler]

I’m not with you? Are you suggesting resting blokes from playing and upping their loads to raise “fitness”? That might be ok for someone who needs the increased work.

But if they are in need of a rest, they need rest, not increased workloads.

A bit simpler than that.

Anyone who needs a bit of a break, potentially could be played as the sub, or have someone just outside the 23 come in with a minor shuffle (Frampton, AJ etc.) and Wade could smash them during the week instead. It likely wouldn’t improve their fitness over what they would get from playing, but their workload could be closely controlled, and the risk of a contact injury prior to finals would be all but nil.

 

[RobJD]

A bit simpler than that.

Anyone who needs a bit of a break, potentially could be played as the sub, or have someone just outside the 23 come in with a minor shuffle (Frampton, AJ etc.) and Wade could smash them during the week instead. It likely wouldn’t improve their fitness over what they would get from playing, but their workload could be closely controlled, and the risk of a contact injury prior to finals would be all but nil.

I don't think teams go into load training that close to the finals - I'm no expert, but I thought loading was done a month or two before the finals and then teams de-load going into the finals.

 

[Kirby]

I don't think teams go into load training that close to the finals - I'm no expert, but I thought loading was done a month or two before the finals and then teams de-load going into the finals.

The loading is during the June/July period usually.

 

[sideswipe]

The loading is during the June/July period usually.

And I think it is not as "in vogue" as it was a few years back?

 

[live fast pieyoung]

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Just a thought; if players need to be managed (and let’s forget for a moment that McRae has said they won’t do it) then Wade could ramp up their training workload during the week, and it eliminates the risk of a contact injury such as Howe/Lipinski/Murphy/Maynard/Elliott have all suffered this season to date.

Anecdotally there’s no substitute for match fitness, but if Wade reckons he can tailor their workloads to have them optimal going in to finals, and it reduces their risk profile, I could be convinced…

we did a heavy training load last year at one stage in the back half of the year
id be suprised if we dont do it again
weve talked a lot about the 4 weeks post bye block being important for wins, so i wouldnt be surprised if we had set ourselves to win that four, then up the training loads