Training Training Thread

[Brishawk]

I seriously doubt those figures. The league boys' game is based on short bursts where most runs are about 10 metres, and power is far more important than endurance.
Sam Thaiday carries a gut as big as Stewie Dew in his prime (2008). There's no way he could even do a beep test, let alone get those results.

Anyway, all the best Queenslanders play for Melbourne Storm!

Well, the Storm do pay more

 

[Brishawk]

This site has Beep Test world record and leader board. You will find a familiar name on the list

http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm

=11 16/6 Billy Hartung AFL Player from the Dandenong Stingrays, achieved at the AFL combine. This is the best ever result at theAFL Combine (from 2013)

 

[Watsclarkosmob]

I seriously doubt those figures. The league boys' game is based on short bursts where most runs are about 10 metres, and power is far more important than endurance.
Sam Thaiday carries a gut as big as Stewie Dew in his prime (2008). There's no way he could even do a beep test, let alone get those results.

Anyway, all the best Queenslanders play for Melbourne Storm!

Alright looks like I was tricked.

 

[Prudster]

This site has Beep Test world record and leader board. You will find a familiar name on the list

http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm

Brad Hill's also at the bottom of that list, as well as several other recognisable AFL names.

 

[Crock]

This site has Beep Test world record and leader board. You will find a familiar name on the list

http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm

Looks like you didn't scroll down far enough!

=17 16/1 Brad Hill AFL Younger brother of Stephen Hill of the Fremantle Dockers. This is the 2nd best ever result at the NAB AFL Draft Combine (from 2011)

 

[tommyk72]

Looks like you didn't scroll down far enough!

"Younger brother of Stephen Hill of the Fremantle Dockers. This is the 2nd best ever result at the NAB AFL Draft Combine (from 2011)"

Didn't think to mention he was a three time premiership player, just that he's the younger brother of someone who's never won anything...

 

[Crock]

"Younger brother of Stephen Hill of the Fremantle Dockers. This is the 2nd best ever result at the NAB AFL Draft Combine (from 2011)"

Didn't think to mention he was a three time premiership player, just that he's the younger brother of someone who's never won anything...

Guess it depends on the date the article was written
If you look at the posts underneath, they are approx 2 years old!

 

[play2win]

Gee look at those results, do you think the hawks price endurance at a premium? Operation GET WHITFIELD initiated.

 

[Boo71]

Gee look at those results, do you think the hawks price endurance at a premium? Operation GET WHITFIELD initiated.

Thats easy, just trade Hill to get him

Or

Breust of course

Or both Hill and Breust

Plus 1st rounders for the next 5 years.

That may just be enough, who else is the prefect age and has experience we can get rid of, Gunston I suppose as well.

 

[Davo23]

Thats easy, just trade Hill to get him

Or

Breust of course

Or both Hill and Breust

Plus 1st rounders for the next 5 years.

That may just be enough, who else is the prefect age and has experience we can get rid of, Gunston I suppose as well.

Apparently Breust doesn't have the best winning record of current players, so trade his ass out of here.

 

[tommyk72]

Thats easy, just trade Hill to get him

Or

Breust of course

Or both Hill and Breust

Plus 1st rounders for the next 5 years.

That may just be enough, who else is the prefect age and has experience we can get rid of, Gunston I suppose as well.

Oh god, we're not going to go down that tangent in this thread too are we?!

 

[Gralin]

This is what happens when Axe can't get to training....

 

[Agent Smith]

Don't call their ground a "pitch" if you want respect from an NRL supporter

Thanks for the tip.

From now on, whenever I'm talking NRL with one of their supporters, I'll make sure to always refer to their ground as a pitch.

 

[Dewnior]

This site has Beep Test world record and leader board. You will find a familiar name on the list

http://www.topendsports.com/testing/records/shuttle-run.htm

 

[Bikefreak]

Thanks for the tip.

From now on, whenever I'm talking NRL with one of their supporters, I'll make sure to always refer to their ground as a pitch.

That other boring as batshit game uses the same terminology too.

So where does that leave cricket? Oh thats right....they play on a field.

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[The_Axeman]

This is what happens when Axe can't get to training....

Relax everyone, today's training report is up.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/training-report-fri-5th-feb.1123057/

 

[Clarkos_Soldier]

I am sorry but that is simply incorrect.

The acceleration of a mass is a result of net force vectors acting on the mass. The acceleration of a mass does not cause a force to exist. It is strictly the other way around i.e. force vectors cause change in velocity vectors.

A vector is simply a quantity which has a magnitude and a direction. So if you change either the magnitude or direction you change the vector. In other words if you change the amount of mass then you consequently change the magnitude of force. And what do you think are the force vectors and where do they come from as far as a person's movements are concerned? Their musculoskeletal system. Also you are thinking at the atomic level. You need to apply it to a body of mass like Roughie.

Here is a simple explanation of it:
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/velocity.html
And here it is applied to human movement:
http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-...n-s-laws-force-time-curves-and-human-movement

 

[PhatHQ]

Because I'm not going to try to keep up with all this physics BS ( no disrespect intended ) here is my take on it... Speed = Power! & this is way cooler than physics!!!

 

[Ordovician]

In other words if you change the amount of mass then you consequently change the magnitude of force.

You left out the bolded part required to make your assertion true.

"In other words if you change the amount of mass then you consequently have to change the magnitude of force required to maintain the same acceleration."

If you change the mass then you need a larger force, linearly proportional to increase in mass, to produce the same acceleration in the body concerned.

When you make short hand statements like the one in the above quote, you at risk of confusing or misleading general readers who have little idea of Newtonian mechanics and that is pretty much everyone in civil society outside of a few tertiary level physics lecturers, and civil and mechanical engineers as it underpins everything they do in their design careers.

Adding mass to the body of an athlete does not guarantee that they will move faster, e.g. Sumo wrestlers. The issue it is all about "strength" manifested as motive force output to mass ratios.

And what do you think are the force vectors and where do they come from as far as a person's movements are concerned? Their musculoskeletal system. Also you are thinking at the atomic level. You need to apply it to a body of mass like Roughie.

Gravity, wind resistance, hydrodynamic drag and buoyancy for water sports etc. You are only referring to motive forces generated by the athlete themselves.

 

[Davo23]

You left out the bolded part required to make your assertion true.

"In other words if you change the amount of mass then you consequently have to change the magnitude of force required to maintain the same acceleration."

If you change the mass then you need a larger force, linearly proportional to increase in mass, to produce the same acceleration in the body concerned.

When you make short hand statements like the one in the above quote, you at risk of confusing or misleading general readers who have little idea of Newtonian mechanics and that is pretty much everyone in civil society outside of a few tertiary level physics lecturers, and civil and mechanical engineers as it underpins everything they do in their design careers.

Adding mass to the body of an athlete does not guarantee that they will move faster, e.g. Sumo wrestlers. The issue it is all about "strength" manifested as motive force output to mass ratios.




Gravity, wind resistance, hydrodynamic drag and buoyancy for water sports etc. You are only referring to motive forces generated by the athlete themselves.

So x= ?

 

[arupist]

So x= ?

x = the numbers of ice creams you can shove up your nose during the World Championship farting contest. How far up it goes depends on your mass and acceleration. Simples.

 

[Clarkos_Soldier]

Gravity, wind resistance, hydrodynamic drag and buoyancy for water sports etc. You are only referring to motive forces generated by the athlete themselves.

Gravity is constant given Roughie is on earth and playing on the same continent and same grounds he always has and wind resistance(?). Really? And hydrodynamic drag?

I am not sure where this is going buddy. But you win.

 

[Boo71]

x = the numbers of ice creams you can shove up your nose during the World Championship farting contest. How far up it goes depends on your mass and acceleration. Simples.

Surely that is snot the case?

 

[TNTre]

So x= ?

= just one good preseason.

 

[Argy]

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