Do we have any 2024 NGA's melt thread extravaganza

[CaptainWorpedo]

I believe it was mentioned here and via the media Cody Anderson is a one as well for us.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

It looks like we have none in this draft. No Moraes, Tarau or Anderson.

 

[Bugs1977]

For those wondering how the NGA works there is a Part 1 and a Part 2. For the HFC to end up having priority access to draft an NGA prospect the player must transition from Part 1 to Part 2 and then meet the criteria that is marked in green italics below.

This likely explains why we don't have priority access to Christian Moraes who I assume was in Part 1 of our NGA program (played for the Eastern Ranges) but not Part 2 as I don't think both his parents qualify as being born in a culturally and linguistically diverse country (CALD).

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The Hawthorn Next Generation Academy is a joint initiative between the AFL and the Hawthorn Football Club aimed at increasing opportunities for young athletes to learn about and play the game of Australian Rules Football. The programs place an emphasis on encouraging indigenous and multicultural athletes to be a part of the program.

AFL clubs have been allocated areas throughout Australia to implement their Next Generation Academy programs. The Hawthorn Football Club is very excited to be working in the Gippsland Power Talent Zone(VIC), Eastern Ranges Talent zone (VIC) and the Katherine region. (NT)

The Hawthorn Next Generation Academy is divided into two parts.

Part one is for athletes aged between 11-15 years of age.

In the allocated areas, the Hawthorn Next Generation Academy conducts elite training programs for U/12’s, U/13’s, U/14’s and U/15’s. These programs aim to educate athletes on football fundamental skills, football games sense, athletic development and living a healthy lifestyle.

Athletes are invited to attend these programs based on their performance in local league competitions, representative football or their efforts at Hawthorn Next Generation Academy come and try days.

Part two of the academy is for athletes aged 16 and above.

To be eligible to be involved in this part of the academy a player must meet the following requirements.

• Involved in part one of the Hawthorn Next Generation Academy and
• Be Indigenous or Torres Strait islander or
• Be from Asian descent or
• Be from African descent or
• Both parents born in a culturally and linguistically diverse country (CALD)

Athletes are invited to be involved in this academy by the Hawthorn Football Club. Here they work individually with the Hawthorn Next Generation Academy coach to further advance their football.

The Hawthorn Football Club receive draft priority and draft concessions on all players involved in part two of the academy, should Hawthorn wish to draft them.

Hawthorn's Next Generation Academy

News and information about Hawthorn's Next Generation Academy program

www.hawthornfc.com.au

 

[mustang]

So Hawks miss out on Moraes becuase his father was born in Brazil? Criteria being the player either has to be born in a non english speaking country or have at least one parent born in Asia, Africa or Oceania, or finally have both parents born in a non english speaking country.

Considering the rule changes the AFL has just made regarding clubs being able to match bids on eligible NGA players anywhere in the draft order, this really is a hard pill to swallow. Especially when it means under these rules we would've been able to match a TJ bid at 38 last year, can't help but feel the Hawks get shafted on this front.

Hopefully we contest this if the new rules come in.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

One to watch closely is rising defender Alix Tauru.

I was told he was part of our academy, but have heard nothing on the subject recently.

Mentioned in Cal’s phantom form guide today as pick 24.

 

[kazzooka]

So Hawks miss out on Moraes becuase his father was born in Brazil? Criteria being the player either has to be born in a non english speaking country or have at least one parent born in Asia, Africa or Oceania, or finally have both parents born in a non english speaking country.

Considering the rule changes the AFL has just made regarding clubs being able to match bids on eligible NGA players anywhere in the draft order, this really is a hard pill to swallow. Especially when it means under these rules we would've been able to match a TJ bid at 38 last year, can't help but feel the Hawks get shafted on this front.

We got Shafted on TJ but McKenzie would be at stkilda under those rules so it's a win for us.

 

[TylerDurden]

The change hasn't actually come through yet, right?

I was under the impression they were trying to reduce the amount of compromise in the first round?

Twomey said it's pretty much baked in on Gettable today.

 

[ahhhhhh]

Twomey said it's pretty much baked in on Gettable today.

Yeah, I doubt he would be saying it like that if he wasn't certain. I bet that Essendon flog is pretty chuffed as well.

 

[TylerDurden]

Yeah, I doubt he would be saying it like he is if it was certain. I bet that Essendon flog is pretty chuffed as well.

Yep taking Kako with pick 80 is an epic result.

 

[Rudi Gilham]

I've seen all three of Moraes, Tauru and Anderson, mentioned in different places as being part of Hawthorn's academy. They must just train with us, but don't meet the necessary qulaifications to be available to us for drafting?

 

[kirbatron]

damn.

I bet the Tullamarine nerd couldn't type out that article quick enough about kako.

(I don't mind Cal tbh)

 

[Faraway Hawk]

Why is it so hard to find a definitive list of NGA kids? Why does the AFL hide like the recipe for Coca Cola?

At least Coca Colas recipe doesn't change every other season.

 

[Mojo]

One to watch closely is rising defender Alix Tauru.

I was told he was part of our academy, but have heard nothing on the subject recently.

Why are we always guessing our NGA's?

How covert is Hawthorn's Academy Department?!

 

[Ashman23]

Ah yes, AFL heartland that is Brazil.

My belief is we didn't push too hard with getting Morales into our academy as we'd have no access regardless.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Ah yes, AFL heartland that is Brazil.

My belief is we didn't push too hard with getting Morales into our academy as we'd have no access regardless.

Of course, because whatever we did, the AFL would have created something to counteract it

 

[HawthornHawk]

Ah yes, AFL heartland that is Brazil.

My belief is we didn't push too hard with getting Morales into our academy as we'd have no access regardless.

How can Cam Mackenzie be an NGA player and Moraes not? Ludicrous

 

[CHUBBSS]

Why are we always guessing our NGA's?

How covert is Hawthorn's Academy Department?!

Sleeper cell, only reveals on draft night

 

[Judd2Sewell]

According to the screenshot posted in the other thread, Tarau himself has confirmed that he is not one of our NGA's.

 

[FB19]

How can Cam Mackenzie be an NGA player and Moraes not? Ludicrous

The AFL decision making process…

 

[2OLD 2SLOW]

The AFL decision making process…

In reality, I think it is closer to this ...

 

[HawthornHawk]

Another thought on this- will it effectively take every indigenous kid in the country out of the open draft?

 

[tommyk72]

I know Tauru is not currently in our academy, but does that mean he can’t be added? Is it too late? I recall someone getting aged late last year, but could be wrong.

 

[mustang]

I know Tauru is not currently in our academy, but does that mean he can’t be added? Is it too late? I recall someone getting aged late last year, but could be wrong.

I’m still hoping we really argue that Christian Moraes should be part of our NGA and haven’t just accepted that he can’t be added.

Would be great if we used our first on Smith then matched a bid on Moraes.

 

[HawthornHawk]

I know Tauru is not currently in our academy, but does that mean he can’t be added? Is it too late? I recall someone getting aged late last year, but could be wrong.

Sanders was added to North's very late last year, from memory Tew Jiath have have been as well

 

[smish]

Also, a bit left field. Is there a chance we anticipate Moares to be added to our academy, meaning we can be a bit more liberal with our first round pick (Barrass)?

Just a thought.