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[JimmyBC]

Rugby Union players are by far the most anonymous, Jed McEntee has a bigger profile than whatever neckless goon is currently captaining the Wallabies.

 

[Papa G]

I reckon they are as big. Especially if you look at the prices things like sports cards go for. I think you’re just not as interested as you were when you were younger.

Also due to real multi millions of dollars professionalism and sports science, the gap between the best and the rest is a lot smaller than it used to be. People like Jordan stood out due to their professionalism and dedication, that’s a minimum expectation these days


Off the top of my head I’d say:



All of these players would have been superstars in previous generations too.

Yeah completely disagree

Mahomes - Gridiron. No outright superstar yet. Dan Marino/Ellway/ Montana level still. Not close to being a house hold name outside North America.
Wemby - Basketball. No way. Not yet atleast.
Ohtani - Baseball.... yeah nobody cares
Haaland - soccer. Could be. People don't seem to warm to Man City. Might get more profile at a new club.
DuPont - rugby. Nobody cares.
Clearly - league. See above.

 

[chiwigi]

Yeah completely disagree

Mahomes - Gridiron. No outright superstar yet. Dan Marino/Ellway/ Montana level still. Not close to being a house hold name outside North America.
Wemby - Basketball. No way. Not yet atleast.
Ohtani - Baseball.... yeah nobody cares
Haaland - soccer. Could be. People don't seem to warm to Man City. Might get more profile at a new club.
DuPont - rugby. Nobody cares.
Clearly - league. See above.

Because you don’t care nobody cares….k

 

[Jonts]

Bradman and uncovered wickets is such an overrated angle to add to his resume.

They also didn't bowl short back then and as soon as they did, he retired.

Lol wut
They legit changed the rules so they could never do the same short tactic thing to the same level again, in a series in 1932 (where he still averaged 56) the bouncer then stayed around post this as is was seen as one of tha main things that could slow down his average and scoring (Bradman was a quick scorer for his time too) he played more tests post Bodyline than prior

Since they've also added helmets and other protective gear. The guy legit tested for poor eyesight in the army too, that wouldn't have gone unchecked in today's age

Bradman would've been better in today's game than worse.
Full time cricketeer, better wickets, better out fields, bigger bats, can't Bodyline him due to fielding restrictions

 

[Jonts]

I'd have Salah ahead of Haaland on profile for soccer

Have never heard of Dan Marino/Ellway/ Montana obviously they're pre my time

 

[Jonts]

Jamie Carragher probably more famous than Bradman

There's literally 1 billion Indians who know who Bradman is

 

[JimmyBC]

The modern version of Bodyline is basically what smart teams do to work over Travis Head, the field changes are irrelevant.

 

[Papa G]

Because you don’t care nobody cares….k

Global Chiw. Baseball, Rugby, League especially are very regional sports. As is Cricket. 99% of Australians no sweet **** all about baseball. The Japanese, Puerto Ricans and possibly the Koreans care about baseball.. nobody else. We only hear about The World Series through movies and to fill news services at the time. Virtually nobody gives a shit. I reckon more than half the people wearing the cap down Rundle Mall wouldn't know the team and 98% couldn't name a player.

 

[Jonts]

The modern version of Bodyline is basically what smart teams do to work over Travis Head, the field changes are irrelevant.

Carn


Having two behind square and 2 at square leg

With Travis head standing there with a helmet with a grill and neck guard, side cheat guard etc

Is not the same as a guy standing there with no helmet with as little as 2/3 fielders not in line or behind him.

That's before you're only allowed to bowl 2 an over at head height these days too

 

[Papa G]

I'd have Salah ahead of Haaland on profile for soccer

Have never heard of Dan Marino/Ellway/ Montana obviously they're pre my time

Never watched Ace Ventura?

 

[JimmyBC]

Carn


Having two behind square and 2 at square leg

With Travis head standing there with a helmet with a grill and neck guard, side cheat guard etc

Is not the same as a guy standing there with no helmet with as little as 2/3 fielders not in line or behind him.

That's before you're only allowed to bowl 2 an over at head height these days too

The head height thing is a furphy if you can bowl over the wicket consistent armpit length Travis struggles.

 

[VineValerian]

Thought of a couple more:

Bobby Charlton
George Best
Alfredo Di Stefano
Franz Beckenbauer

 

[Jonts]

The head height thing is a furphy if you can bowl over the wicket consistent armpit length Travis struggles.

Yeah agreed, but that isn't the chin music that Bodyline supposedly was either

 

[Jonts]

Never watched Ace Ventura?

Genuinely haven't, it has slipped through the cracks I've only heard good things

 

[JimmyBC]

Yeah agreed, but that isn't the chin music that Bodyline supposedly was either

They deemed all short pitched bowling as ungentlemanly or whatever it wasn't just head high bouncers, I agree in the sense of protective gear and no leg side field loading etc. nowadays but the actual concept is still common place. If he averaged around 56 in that period it's probably more in the ballpark of where his average would be now.

 

[Lagooner]

I know FA about gymnastics but Simone Biles is the best winning machine the US has had since Phelps.

 

[dirty2]

The goats...

T. Henry
W. Tredrea
T. Adams
W. Gretzky
C. Barkley
R. Osbourne (till he left Fitzroy )

 

[JimmyBC]

If someone asked you if Thorgas Meatlock was the captain of the Wallabies you'd shrug and say probably.

 

[afl2004]

 

[Butters and Pepper]

I can't remember precisely what he achieved but I seem to recall Al Bundy scoring a number of touchdowns.

He must be right up there imo.

 

[Doctor Feel]

 

[Peninsula Boy]

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That's taking method acting to a whole new level.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I reckon they are as big. Especially if you look at the prices things like sports cards go for. I think you’re just not as interested as you were when you were younger.

Also due to real multi millions of dollars professionalism and sports science, the gap between the best and the rest is a lot smaller than it used to be. People like Jordan stood out due to their professionalism and dedication, that’s a minimum expectation these days


Off the top of my head I’d say:

Mahomes - Gridiron
Wemby - Basketball
Ohtani - Baseball
Haaland - soccer
DuPont - rugby
Clearly - league.

All of these players would have been superstars in previous generations too.

Ive literally only heard of two of these guys before this thread (Haaland and Wemby)

Papa was right lol

 

[Schulzenfest]

Heh.

The missus' boss has/had a father with dementia who was up and down for some time before finally being put into palliative care about a week ago. He unfortunately passed away shortly after a few days ago.

What my missus didn't know until today was that he was one of a pair of identical twins. They both had dementia and were in the same home.

At this point I thought the story was leading to the identical twin showing up at the funeral and scaring the shit out of everybody.

 

[backtozero]

Joe DiMaggio
Keith Hernandez
Mickey Mantle
Darryl Strawberry
Ken Griffey Jr.
Don Mattingly
Jose Conseco

Baseball players whose names I know because of the Simpsons and Seinfeld.