Unpopular Port Adelaide opinion you may have

[El_Scorcho]

Well I guess we won't be seeing you celebrating if it's not, right? Have some courage in your convictions.

Come ooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn this is moronic.

We'll go in as $3+ underdogs in 3 out of our first 4 games. All 4 of those teams didn't just beat us, they embarrassed us in 2016. Poor GreyPower has recognised our tough draw and doesn't have faith that we'll win those games (idk maybe because he's watched us play over the past 2 seasons I guess) and has then put a sad face.

(Just a reminder since you're strongarming people regarding predictions that in your 2016 predictions you had us finishing 2nd with 18 wins. We were 8 wins from that and 7 wins and 40% away from finishing 2nd.)

You've effectively had a crack at him for jumping off the bandwagon, which is your MO for anyone being negative about anything on this board.

Most people on this board go to every single game and hurt when we lose. A lot of those people have recognised over the past few seasons that we're short of where we need to be in certain areas and have been vocal on a Port Adelaide discussion board about the areas they think we're struggling in. They still turn up every week hoping they're wrong.

You most certainly do not get to claim the moral high ground just because you are endlessly optimistic about what's going on at the club. That doesn't make you a better supporter than anyone else and you have no right to tell people how they are allowed to feel about their football club. This is TPFPesque bullshit.

 

[finbarr]

Thread needs a best to worst supporter heat map.

 

[Waspy79]

Come ooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn this is moronic.

We'll go in as $3+ underdogs in 3 out of our first 4 games. All 4 of those teams didn't just beat us, they embarrassed us in 2016. Poor GreyPower has recognised our tough draw and doesn't have faith that we'll win those games (idk maybe because he's watched us play over the past 2 seasons I guess) and has then put a sad face.

(Just a reminder since you're strongarming people regarding predictions that in your 2016 predictions you had us finishing 2nd with 18 wins. We were 8 wins from that and 7 wins and 40% away from finishing 2nd.)

You've effectively had a crack at him for jumping off the bandwagon, which is your MO for anyone being negative about anything on this board.

Most people on this board go to every single game and hurt when we lose. A lot of those people have recognised over the past few seasons that we're short of where we need to be in certain areas and have been vocal on a Port Adelaide discussion board about the areas they think we're struggling in. They still turn up every week hoping they're wrong.

You most certainly do not get to claim the moral high ground just because you are endlessly optimistic about what's going on at the club. That doesn't make you a better supporter than anyone else and you have no right to tell people how they are allowed to feel about their football club. This is TPFPesque bullshit.

Yuck. I am glad I don't know our fixture beyond round 1.

I agree with the POTY2015 - we need to welcome all types of poster on this board and ESPECIALLY within this thread.

 

[StrappingTape]

Our season will be close to toast by round 8 and Hinkley will be gone.

 

[El Zorro]

(Just a reminder since you're strongarming people regarding predictions that in your 2016 predictions you had us finishing 2nd with 18 wins. We were 8 wins from that and 7 wins and 40% away from finishing 2nd.)

You most certainly do not get to claim the moral high ground just because you are endlessly optimistic about what's going on at the club. That doesn't make you a better supporter than anyone else and you have no right to tell people how they are allowed to feel about their football club. This is TPFPesque bullshit.

This!

 

[rogerjames]

Come ooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn this is moronic.

We'll go in as $3+ underdogs in 3 out of our first 4 games. All 4 of those teams didn't just beat us, they embarrassed us in 2016. Poor GreyPower has recognised our tough draw and doesn't have faith that we'll win those games (idk maybe because he's watched us play over the past 2 seasons I guess) and has then put a sad face.

(Just a reminder since you're strongarming people regarding predictions that in your 2016 predictions you had us finishing 2nd with 18 wins. We were 8 wins from that and 7 wins and 40% away from finishing 2nd.)

You've effectively had a crack at him for jumping off the bandwagon, which is your MO for anyone being negative about anything on this board.

Most people on this board go to every single game and hurt when we lose. A lot of those people have recognised over the past few seasons that we're short of where we need to be in certain areas and have been vocal on a Port Adelaide discussion board about the areas they think we're struggling in. They still turn up every week hoping they're wrong.

You most certainly do not get to claim the moral high ground just because you are endlessly optimistic about what's going on at the club. That doesn't make you a better supporter than anyone else and you have no right to tell people how they are allowed to feel about their football club. This is TPFPesque bullshit.

But but Janus is a genius

 

[El Zorro]

But but Janus is a genius

He'd get a lot more respect if he admitted to being wrong every once in a while.

 

[DaTBird187]

I seem to recall Dean Laidley saying Hartlett was the best young talent he had seen. Perhaps the observations were made via Skype.

Hartlett didn't receive the message due to his computer buffering at the time.

 

[TeeKray]

What is a tough draw for us anyway. When two thirds of the teams are better than you and your bogey team is Carlton, any draw is probably going to look tough.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

My fear is this group will drop their heads and not recover from a tough first month

 

[Peck]

Much like how you can usually tell if we will win a game after the first 10 minutes, I suspect we will learn a lot against Sydney.

 

[Byrons Firen]

My unpopular view, is that with our first month of games, our season is actually over before it even commences

Nah that's a POPULAR view/fear.
My Unpopular view is that Ken's a genius, Lobbe's a gun, TJ is our saviour and Port to go deep in September.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Man I sound negative in this thread so lets go with an on the flip:

This team needs a big scalp early and a game where it all clicks it would do wonders mentally

*I still think that's an unpopular opinion lel

 

[simmo_bc]

My unpopular view is that the PAFC does all the grunt work in China and another club(s) capitalises!

 

[Contested Marx]

My unpopular opinion is that we'll probably do better than expected this year

It's based on delusional optimism and nothing more

 

[Waspy79]

What is a tough draw for us anyway. When two thirds of the teams are better than you and your bogey team is Carlton, any draw is probably going to look tough.

You are correct and that's why I've stopped looking at the fixture. It really is irrelevant for a club in our predicament.

 

[David Puddy]

My unpopular opinion is that Hinkley has lost (or never had) the ability to think on his feet and change things during a game when we need it.

I found it interesting that Lade had to come out and say that Dixon might need to spend some time in the ruck, but Ken has never once mentioned it. Makes sense to get Dix on the ball when he can't get into the game up front (especially with how our ball movement has been going inside 50 since he joined us).

 

[Janus]

Come ooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn this is moronic.

We'll go in as $3+ underdogs in 3 out of our first 4 games. All 4 of those teams didn't just beat us, they embarrassed us in 2016. Poor GreyPower has recognised our tough draw and doesn't have faith that we'll win those games (idk maybe because he's watched us play over the past 2 seasons I guess) and has then put a sad face.

(Just a reminder since you're strongarming people regarding predictions that in your 2016 predictions you had us finishing 2nd with 18 wins. We were 8 wins from that and 7 wins and 40% away from finishing 2nd.)

You've effectively had a crack at him for jumping off the bandwagon, which is your MO for anyone being negative about anything on this board.

Most people on this board go to every single game and hurt when we lose. A lot of those people have recognised over the past few seasons that we're short of where we need to be in certain areas and have been vocal on a Port Adelaide discussion board about the areas they think we're struggling in. They still turn up every week hoping they're wrong.

You most certainly do not get to claim the moral high ground just because you are endlessly optimistic about what's going on at the club. That doesn't make you a better supporter than anyone else and you have no right to tell people how they are allowed to feel about their football club. This is TPFPesque bullshit.

Nah, he said our season is over before it began because we have four tough games to start a season comprising 22 games. That's what is moronic. You can say we've got a tough start, but this negative hyperbole that has infected this board - which started when the likes of yourself kept banging on about us not playing some spud up forward in 2014 against Essendon like as if that was going to make the difference - has gone way too far.

Tough start that you think we'll fail at - fine.

Don't believe in the gameplan - fine.

Don't think the coach can get it done - fine.

Don't think the list is good enough - fine.

Not having the courage to stick with your beliefs about all those things if you're going to be vocal about it and tell others - not fine.

Ask yourself how far the club would get if they had the attitude of "We're going to get smashed so why bother trying" that some here seem to have. If the coaching staff doesn't look at the list and think "Yeah we could use another key forward" - but guess what? We work with what we have, whether that's draft picks, players or the fixture.

Would it really kill people to back in the players and coaches of the club they supposedly support before the season even starts?

You lot are going to drag this club back down to the bottom because you've got no faith in your own players and constantly belittle and criticise every single mistake they make. All in an effort to prove yourselves right.

Just try backing them in a bit.

P.S Using a prediction made before Ryder was suspended and all our injuries happened as a way of proving some larbored point is pretty dumb IMO.

 

[Byrons Firen]

I found it interesting that Lade had to come out and say that Dixon might need to spend some time in the ruck

Ken plonks Big Dix at FF so what would Lade know......oh wait

 

[StrappingTape]

Nah, he said our season is over before it began because we have four tough games to start a season comprising 22 games. That's what is moronic. You can say we've got a tough start, but this negative hyperbole that has infected this board - which started when the likes of yourself kept banging on about us not playing some spud up forward in 2014 against Essendon like as if that was going to make the difference - has gone way too far.

Tough start that you think we'll fail at - fine.

Don't believe in the gameplan - fine.

Don't think the coach can get it done - fine.

Don't think the list is good enough - fine.

Not having the courage to stick with your beliefs about all those things if you're going to be vocal about it and tell others - not fine.

Ask yourself how far the club would get if they had the attitude of "We're going to get smashed so why bother trying" that some here seem to have. If the coaching staff doesn't look at the list and think "Yeah we could use another key forward" - but guess what? We work with what we have, whether that's draft picks, players or the fixture.

Would it really kill people to back in the players and coaches of the club they supposedly support before the season even starts?

You lot are going to drag this club back down to the bottom because you've got no faith in your own players and constantly belittle and criticise every single mistake they make. All in an effort to prove yourselves right.

Just try backing them in a bit.

P.S Using a prediction made before Ryder was suspended and all our injuries happened as a way of proving some larbored point is pretty dumb IMO.

We are backing them in a bit but the pessimism that some have is the players own fault from their history the past 2 seasons of being absolutely inept, full team or not we have just been average. The draw we have is the reason I think Hinkley will be gone by round 8 because I think we will quickly set back into the malaise of "gotta work harder" and be treading water going nowhere again, he must have sworn the house down when the draw came out and he saw the first month.

The first round of the JLT I and others saw much of the same from the last 2 seasons, nothing that made us look like we have made any major changes to fix our huge deficiencies. Our fitness and our start to games seems to still make us flat as, something that I and several others have been on about for a couple of years, I think our players physically are burnt out and can't go when they want to and it has been like this for a couple of years, we start games running on the spot. When you see nothing out of the group to make you think differently why would you? The talk is the same talk we have heard from the same group for several seasons, it's lost any significant meaning to us fans until we see something rectified on field.

Do we want them to succeed? Yes of course we do, I'd love it to be wrong and everyone laugh at me.
Do we want Ken to succeed? Yes, we want him to and prove us all wrong
Is it OK to be happy if they come out and win lots of games? Yes of course, no one on here is going to be sad if the group comes good from round 1 and proves everyone wrong, we will all be ecstatic.

 

[Power Girl]

Nah that's a POPULAR view/fear.
My Unpopular view is that Ken's a genius, Lobbe's a gun, TJ is our saviour and Port to go deep in September.

shut your troll mouth * Byron's - TJ is our saviour ... you just don't know it yet.

* I am really not meaning to be rude

 

[El_Scorcho]

Not having the courage to stick with your beliefs about all those things if you're going to be vocal about it and tell others - not fine.

No this is still fine.

GreyPower didn't say "i'm not going to be a supporter if we lose again". He said he thought we'd lose the first 4 and our season would be effectively over because we'd be looking at needing 13 wins out of 18 or something like that. He was sad about his prediction but he's being realistic. If we're not 1-3 at best after 4 games, we'll be performing well above what any reasonable person would expect.

The idea that he wouldn't be sticking with his convictions if he was happy to be wrong is ludicrious and is TPFP level supporter elitism. Should all the Leceister supporters who expected to have an average season have "stuck to their convictions" and not celebrated one of the most unlikely championships in major sports history?

Again, we'll go into 3/4 of those games as $3 outsiders. All 4 of those teams handed us embarrassing losses last year. The prediction that we'll be in trouble after 4 games can't even really be called an unpopular one.
GreyPower will probably cheer us until his throat is sore in all 4 games and you have the gall to think you can tell him he can't celebrate a good win or two because he has some serious misgivings about our chances this season.

P.S Using a prediction made before Ryder was suspended and all our injuries happened as a way of proving some larbored point is pretty dumb IMO.

My point was that having a crack at someone about their prediction is stupid and you should move out of your glass house before you start hurling stones.

 

[StrappingTape]

If we could actually ****ing kick it to charlie Dixon lace out instead of bombing it non stop on top of his head, he'd probably have more influence up forward. His hands were certainty career worst last year though with us, not sure the reason why, lack of confidence maybe.

 

[El_Scorcho]

We've been an utter disappointment for 2 years in a row, with a coach who has shown and stated repeatedly that his belief is that if he sticks with his plan long enough it will eventually work. I don't believe his plan will work for reasons that i've spent tens of thousands of words detailing on this board for the past 3-4 years. I've still been to every home game and more than a dozen or so away games over that time.

According to Janus, if I believe we'll lose to Sydney, Adelaide, Freo and GWS in the first 4 rounds, I don't have the right to get excited about our chances if we turn it around.

**** off. What a stupid thing to say.

PS Janus you made that 18 win, top 2 prediction on March 20th, more than 2 months after the bans were handed down and on the eve of the season. It was a bad prediction. Don't worry, you're still allowed to support the club even though you made a prediction and it didn't pan out.

 

[StrappingTape]

PS Janus you made that 18 win, top 2 prediction on March 20th, more than 2 months after the bans were handed down and on the eve of the season. It was a bad prediction. Don't worry, you're still allowed to support the club even though you made a prediction and it didn't pan out.

Let's not forget the fitness theories about the #4dchessmaster Burgess that never panned out either. Janus you've done a crapload of good analysis with all the heat maps and stuff so surely you can understand why a bunch of us don't see a bright start? We are basically taking the alternate view of what's going wrong and why the heat maps aren't looking right.