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My apologies. 45 mins.
And no. Living in the same city and driving by car is not the same as a flight to a different state. (And it doesnt take 45mins).
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That qoute was needed why again? Added nothing.
Which proves a point.
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I'll let you work it out.
Look the GF is not going anywhere, it is locked in until 2037 and more than likely before the year 2030 it will be extended.
Whether it should be or shouldn’t be makes no difference.
I really would like to know though if Victorians actually do believe if their team is playing a non Victorian side on GF day that they feel they have a better chance of winning because the game is at the MCG? As opposed to if the game was at their opponents ground?
Simple question.
Whether it should be or shouldn’t be makes no difference.
I really would like to know though if Victorians actually do believe if their team is playing a non Victorian side on GF day that they feel they have a better chance of winning because the game is at the MCG? As opposed to if the game was at their opponents ground?
Simple question.
Is it possible that interstate team records become a bit inflated due to their substantial home ground advantage?
Just a discussion point.
West Coast for example:
9-3 at home
3-7 away
Did their substantial home ground advantage give them enough wins to scrape into the finals? When their true form without the substantial home ground advantage would possibly have had them miss the 8.
Are some interstate teams getting into the finals on the back of a home ground advantage that Vic clubs dont get V Vic clubs?
As I said, it's just a discussion point, please don't be offended.
Just a discussion point.
West Coast for example:
9-3 at home
3-7 away
Did their substantial home ground advantage give them enough wins to scrape into the finals? When their true form without the substantial home ground advantage would possibly have had them miss the 8.
Are some interstate teams getting into the finals on the back of a home ground advantage that Vic clubs dont get V Vic clubs?
As I said, it's just a discussion point, please don't be offended.
This has been answered heaps of times.
Most agree that there is some advantage to Vic sides on GF day, but not as great as what some people try to make out, and the advantage is somewhat balanced out by other factors during the H&A season and weeks 1-3 finals.
Only GF day you can win the premiership. It cannot be balanced out anywhere.
I am still a fan of the GF at the G though even though i believe it is a distinct advantage to a Vic side against a Non Vic side.
Of course they are, no denying that. But the home ground advantage is offset by the fact they have to travel every second week.
Vic clubs only leave the state what, 6-7 times usually? Usually spaced out by a week or two and with a decent break. Not the same at all. Yes their home crowds are more of a split with the opposition but I would rather have that than have to travel so much and play at least one final away every year.
Like we saw this year, a Vic team can finish in the lower part of the top 4 and not leave the state at all. They get a good representation in the crowd and use all the familiar facilities and ground dimension.
And even if they have to play an away prelim, they know the next week is basically a home game regardless. How anyone can deny this is an advantage is beyond me.
The idea of one team being ranked higher going into a Grand Final is stupid to the core.
Only if you make the GF.
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Exactly.
The 2 prelims decide which teams play off for the flag and they go in equal.
Where you finish in the home and away season doesn't give you some sort of higher rank for the GF.
The home and away season just decides which final you play in week 1 and then it becomes irrelevant, the finals system takes over, weeks 2,3,4 of finals are decided entirely by the previous week's finals, the ladder has nothing to do with it.
If Melbourne or St Kilda get a September miracle next year I will never watch another AFL game ever, that''s how confident I will be it's rigged. I always used to laugh at people who said cricket was rigged.
Spot on! All the chips from the H&A have been chased in by GF time.
Of course it's an advantage to play the GF on your home ground, but it's offset by the lack of a distinct homeground advantage V Vic sides.
Also offset by a lack of homeground advantage in finals V Vic sides, whereas interstate sides can get a big leg up playing at home in finals.
End result is, it's not a perfect setup, but it's the best we have.
A big difference, and also advantage was there were 15 players from either Port's SANFL or players returning from other AFL clubs that had started their career at Port. Also with quite a few journeymen at the club it made us more competitive early but were supplemented by some good SANFL youngsters like Francou , Dew etc. Also being an established club gave infrastructure advantages, intellectual property and also a winning culture that can't be underestimated. I think there were a number of reasons why Port's transition to AFL went a bit better but one of them wasn't generous draft concessions.
Which of the Richmond finals were rigged?
Why didn't the AFL get the Saints the flag in 2009 or 2010?
For me the problem isn't having the GF at the MCG that's a reality that isn't going to change. The issue is teams being able to play large numbers of games at that ground while interstate clubs play so few. IMO some of the clubs that play home at Etihad get more time on the MCG with interstate clubs and Melbourne, Richmond, Collingwood, Hawthorn get more time at Etihad.
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Yep, this is the only equitable option. The AFL should set a minimum benchmark for any city that wants to host the match, say 80,000 seat stadium, to be ready by 2037. Then the AFL rotates it such the GF is at the MCG every second year and it is rotated between the cities that meet the benchmark in the other years.
It may mean that for many years it switches between two cities (say Sydney and Melbourne) until more jump on board. But at least the benefit to half the clubs in the league will be neutralised.
The Geelong v Richmond game at Kardinia Park
What if Port get into the GF in 2020 after the Demons win it next year and Saints in 2019?
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Hawthorn was only close in one GF. We destroyed Sydney and WC. To suggest that the only reason WC and Swans lost the GF was because of the home ground advantage is letting them off the hook badly
Same goes for Crows this year
Same goes for Crows this year
Richmond blew the Cats away, how was that rigged?
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