Yeah bit more nuanced than that.
Yes it is an expanded VFL, but the way you guys portray it is like it's a deliberate hate on non vics.
It isn't, the bias is market driven.
This is not a conspiracy that you all think it is.
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Mega Thread VICBias - Genuine Discussion Part 2
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Yes it is an expanded VFL, but the way you guys portray it is like it's a deliberate hate on non vics.
It isn't, the bias is market driven.
This is not a conspiracy that you all think it is.
What do totals say? At least provide the differential....a +1 free kick count is different to a +12!
Adelaide home games v Vic teams
Rd 2 v Cats - 18 v 9 = +9 Crows
Rd 4 v Dees - 21 v 9 = +12 Crows
Rd 6 v Dons - 18 v 22 = -4 Crows
Rd 13 v Tigers - 27 v 17 = +10 Crows
Rd 18 v StK - 23 v 29 = -6 Crows
Rd 20 v Hawks - 25 v 18 = +7 Crows
Rd 22 v Dogs - 11 v 19 = -8 Crows
Overall +20 to Crows
Adelaide away games v Vic teams in Vic
Rd 5 v Carl - 21v21 = 0 Crows
Rd 10 v Coll - 11 v 8 = +3 Crows
Rd 12 v Hawks - 21 v 29 = -8 Crows
Rd 19 v Dons - 15 v 20 = -5 Crows
Rd 21 v Cats - 16 v 19 = -3 Crows
Overall - 13 to Crows
Apart from the standard "home cooking" where is the bias in favour of Vics?
In last two seasons - Geelong, StK, Melbourne, WB and NM have all played away games in Tassie.
Never let facts get in the way of a "good faith" VICBias sook.
You'll find that maybe north fans booed jhf, not all and sundry vics, personally I didn't give a shit that he left north.
They've been doing it all thread.
My argument is that EVERYONE should have to do it. But no no not Collingwood because reasons.
It was definitely all and sundry vics, and eventually got some Adam Goodes momentum and everyone was doing it.
Which bias is that CB?
- Mar 4, 2015
- 2,876
- 3,550
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Central District
Of coarse it is, anything that doesnt fit your narrative is irrelevant.
- Nov 10, 2022
- 11,040
- 9,048
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Be very careful going down that thread alley
See this is why no-one except your Mates in here take you serious, if you want a proper discussion then stop talking crap.
Adelaide booed him, West Coast booed him, and I think Brisbane booed him, he is hated by most of Australia.
Stop making crap up.
Just admit it, you just hate the Vics, most of the crap you come up with is just in your head.
It's not crap. It's true. A bloke left a club and Vics came out in solidary with North Melbourne - a club that 9/10 footy fans should hate.
When it started up even Ken Hinkley who has vic origins noted it was a vic thing:
He only started getting booed by fans of other interstate clubs after this reached fever pitch.
Well I didn't and don't know any other vic fans that did, so you're wrong.
The mcg bias that my club and the other big vic clubs get, the gf at the g every year.
The media coverage that my club and other big vic clubs get. The more game exposure we and other big vic clubs get.
All of the above IS market driven, and is the reason we don't play at Kardinia Park or Tas, because we the highest profile club in the country.
All of this has been explained eleventy billion times.
It is NOT a deliberate hate on non vics just coz non vics, as much as you and others seem so vehement that it is.
It's massive chip on the shoulder stuff.
An interstate team will win it this year. The port/Geelong game last week was an anomaly. Geelong are not that good and port are not that bad. think Port or Sydney will win the flag this year.
I didn't and I don't know any other vic fans that did (or wa fans, I live in Perth), unless your or ElectricG have evidence?
Okay cool. So, everything we complain about is true but it's just happening for a reason other than what we say. Vicbias deunked! Will you also concede that this phenomenon is present in other facets of the AFL including tribunal outcomes, club fines, and umpiring?
This does not prove that all vic fans booed jhf, you've been sucked into click bait media
No shit.
Which is why the VICBias sook is ridiculous.
The moronic VICBias sook groups Collingwood, Geelong and North as all being the same (Vic).
The reality is the VIC clubs are not the same.
North travel more than Port.
Geelong are the only Vic club with a unique home ground.
Ess/Carl dont really have a home at all
Hawks got no FTA coverage this year
Etc
But let the lazy VICBias sook that aligns North, Geelong and Collingwood continue.
Oh did Hinkley say that did he?
My F&^%$* god and you think it's true because he said that.
Every other state booed him as well, this is in his 1st year for Port, you are making out it took ages, they booed him the 1st time they played against him.
You can't make this crap up.
Seriously, for a club that thinks they are top of the tree in SA, you are the most fragile of all the clubs to join the V/AFL
"we want to wear the stripes"
"Gold Coast, you wear that jumper,we will cry"
That's possible, but I don't have any proof.
Tbh I think it's a stretch to suggest mro (who is west australian btw) or tribunal outcomes are deliberately set up to favour vics as a conspiracy to disadvantage non vics.
I am surprised that anyone could think the bias is a set up for the purpose of disadvantaging non vics.
Is this what you really think? I wouldn't have thought you'd be this naive.
Why does every defense of vicbias have this flavour of gaslighting? What do you want me to do here to verify something that was observed by everyone else's eyes and ears? Travel back in time and use a decibel meter and record what happened every time JHF got a possession? Take surveys of Pies fans of whether they booed and why?
They were booing. You know they booed.
Would a crows fan boo a player that screwed over port? Nope. Never. They would have hero status among that group.
Why were collingwood fans booing jhf for screwing over north? You know the answer. You're just trying to sidestep the question by asking me to prove whether it really happened.
LoungeLizard and ElectricG
I think you've been sucked into media click bait that 'everyone' or 'all vic fans' booed jhf.
msm are very good at portraying something as a 'majority' when it really probably isn't.
I think you've been sucked into media click bait that 'everyone' or 'all vic fans' booed jhf.
msm are very good at portraying something as a 'majority' when it really probably isn't.
- Mar 4, 2015
- 2,876
- 3,550
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Central District
Lol, now youre really clutching.
Ok, lets look at some other totals
ADEL, FREO, GWS, PORT WC
Home free kick count wins 14
Away free kick count wins 11
VIC CLUBS
Home free kick count wins 19
Away free kick count wins 20
You win not only more in hostile territory than at home, but more at our home grounds than we do.
The fact is, your mate said crowds influence umpiring decisions but its clear that at home we get little more than break even results in the count whereas you get a clear advantage home and away..
Yeah I know they booed and so did the whole of the country, nearly every club in the country booed him, it was weird.
But you are trying to say just Vic clubs booed him, this is just more proof of your hatred and why no-one really takes what you say seriously.
No, they booed, I was even listening to a game on the Radio and you could hear it on that.
