Mega Thread VICBias - Genuine Discussion

[portly]

And where are all the umps going to stay, whatabout their day jobs?
What about the broadcasters, cameramen, commentators, technicians etc...
What about the support staff and volunteers...
And where are all the teams going to base in Adelaide...
Theres like 9 SANFL teams for clubs to train etc, then the rest?

All teams in one Hub was never going to work... In SA, In Vic, In WA... Anywhere...

And why will it only be Victoria that will have a second outbreak? it only takes the stupidity of 1 person IN ANY location to cause another outbreak...
That was proven by Cedar Meats in Melb,
But was also proved by the 14 or so that casused a cluster in the Barossa in SA, right near where the crows actually holed up their 16 players...

The umpires and media are highly concentrated in Victoria.

Decentralise.

Have games umpired by neutral umpires.



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[blue harvest]

Remember when Gil ,Eddie and co were spouting the grim outlook for the AFL during the pandemic

"we are all in this together and we all need to make sacrifices "

should be any day now that a Vic club makes a sacrifice or is inconvenienced in the slightest

Hawks and Bombers have both been scheduled home games at their opponents home ground, there's 2 slight inconveniences for you.

 

[portly]

Yes and oddly an S.A. case after weeks without

From Victoria.

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[Gavin Excell]

From Victoria.

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The root of all evil

 

[Numero Uno]

Hawks and Bombers have both been scheduled home games at their opponents home ground, there's 2 slight inconveniences for you.

Essendon at the MCG...wow someone light a candle for Essendon tonight

 

[dean33]

Let me know when a Victorian club like Richmond, Collingwood or Hawthorn is 'hubbed' on the other side of country..Let me also know when they are forced to burn a home game to the current premiers and play at a venue 5000km away from their home ground

I'm keen to know, so me and a lot of other WC supporters can sit back and spout 'YoU HaVE tHe AdVaNtAGE..JuSt UsE InBrED TwiT ViCtoRiaN LoGiC"

West coast were rated as having the hardest fixture pre corona with double ups against Richmond, Collingwood and the giants. You now don’t. So instead of playing Richmond twice in Perth and Melbourne you get us once at your new current home with us off a 5 day break and flying the 2 hrs on the day of the game.
So hard done by.

 

[Numero Uno]

teams in hubs only permitted to take 25 players

so when WC plays Richmond they will have their full squad to choose from where WC can only pick from 25
both teams coming off 5 day breaks..so Richmond can rotate/rest players and have more cover for injuries

Richmond can train with their full squads together for well over a month
If WC get an injury, his replacement will be 'cold'

funny how yet another decision handicaps WC yet again

Just wait for the AFL to also deny WC's request for extra staff. So the Eagles will have 2 bases with 2 groups of players on either side of the country but the same number of staff to cater

nothing more predictable

 

[Obeanie1]

Yeah I acknowledged your 10 travel games in my post.

I still think the 10 strong HGA Perth games + 10 travelling games situation is among the best models any club has to guarantee finals. Other contenders for the ultimate finals armchair ride include the Sydney Swans Academy with COLA & Geelong’s use of Kardinia Park.

Travelling less and being a Docklands tenant leaves a club at a way bigger disadvantage to just make finals for mine and doesn’t get enough attention ironically given the prominent vicbias narrative.

Getting 14 games at your home ground and travelling sfa is a pretty decent model dont you think?

WA clubs need to finish top two to have any real chance because at the end of long hard season the travel and rehab takes a huge toll.

I know which model I would prefer.

 

[Numero Uno]

West coast were rated as having the hardest fixture pre corona with double ups against Richmond, Collingwood and the giants. You now don’t. So instead of playing Richmond twice in Perth and Melbourne you get us once at your new current home with us off a 5 day break and flying the 2 hrs on the day of the game.
So hard done by.

Its our home game...Playing Richmond anywhere other than at our home ground is a massive 'leg up' for Richmond especially when its the other side of the country
Thats like saying Richmond playing a home game in Broome vs West Coast is an advantage to Richmond...twit logic

yes I'm fully aware the Eagles were given the toughest draw by far even though Richmond are premiers
thanks for further high lighting the premise of this thread though

 

[Obeanie1]

West coast were rated as having the hardest fixture pre corona with double ups against Richmond, Collingwood and the giants. You now don’t. So instead of playing Richmond twice in Perth and Melbourne you get us once at your new current home with us off a 5 day break and flying the 2 hrs on the day of the game.
So hard done by.

LOL.

So now Richmond avoid playing the Eagles twice, avoid the hardest road trip in the comp and instewd play an Eagles home game in QLD.

So hard done by.

Another pampering for the Tigers.

 

[Numero Uno]

LOL.

So now Richmond avoid playing the Eagles twice, avoid the hardest road trip in the comp and instewd play an Eagles home game in QLD.

So hard done by.

Another pampering for the Tigers.

I know right..We are hubbing on the other side of the country and losing our home game to the Premiers but it's Richmond supporters squealing

you can't make this shite up

 

[Obeanie1]

The other problem is half of them still don't realise they get direct flights, which they've been getting for 15 years.
Every year at fixture time it's the same old 'we already travel the most don't send us to Tassie too' even though the flight times are only marginally longer than coming to Melbourne and they make that back with quicker trips into town.

Its still playing in Northern Antartica instead of the MCG or Marvel.

Its a 2nd rate stadium often played in atrocious conditions.

All to prop up struggling Vic clubs.

Dont win too often down there......once I recall. Have a much higher win rate in Melbourne.

 

[Dylan12]

teams in hubs only permitted to take 25 players

so when WC plays Richmond they will have their full squad to choose from where WC can only pick from 25
both teams coming off 5 day breaks..so Richmond can rotate/rest players and have more cover for injuries

Richmond can train with their full squads together for well over a month
If WC get an injury, his replacement will be 'cold'

funny how yet another decision handicaps WC yet again

Just wait for the AFL to also deny WC's request for extra staff. So the Eagles will have 2 bases with 2 groups of players on either side of the country but the same number of staff to cater

nothing more predictable

Further to this, let's not forget, Richmond players and staff would not have had their lives disrupted whatsoever, getting to live from the comforts of their spacious homes surrounded by their wives / children / girlfriends / boyfriends / pets / family's / friends etc. with the freedom to move around the city as they see fit in their cars, all the while, the Eagles players and staff will be cooped up in a room no bigger than the standard bedroom for 3-4 weeks away from their wives / children / girlfriends / boyfriends / pets / family's / friends etc. without the freedom to move around all the while living in a foreign city without their cars etc.

Perhaps if Richmond players and staff had to give up all of the things Eagles players had to, particularly Riewoldt who continuously rolls his kid any chance he gets you might have an argument, but until your players have to give up as much as West Coast players will have to, you just have no argument whatsoever.

 

[Senor M]

teams in hubs only permitted to take 25 players

so when WC plays Richmond they will have their full squad to choose from where WC can only pick from 25

Is this true? I hadn’t seen that reported anywhere.

I would’ve thought there would be a bigger deal about this if the WA/SA clubs could only take 25 players to QLD for the month.

 

[Final Siren]

I know right..We are hubbing on the other side of the country and losing our home game to the Premiers but it's Richmond supporters squealing

you can't make this shite up

Notice how even in your own post, you're complaining about your team being hard done by, while saying only other people are doing that.

 

[dean33]

Its our home game...Playing Richmond anywhere other than at our home ground is a massive 'leg up' for Richmond especially when its the other side of the country
Thats like saying Richmond playing a home game in Broome vs West Coast is an advantage to Richmond...twit logic

yes I'm fully aware the Eagles were given the toughest draw by far even though Richmond are premiers
thanks for further high lighting the premise of this thread though

Ok I’ll spell it out for you, originally we were playing you twice in Perth and Melbourne. Now you are only playing us once at your home hub, you would have already been there for a month, you get on a bus and drive the 15 mins while we get on a plane and fly the 2 hrs. That’s an advantage to west coast. So previously home and away, now it’s more advantage to you. Stop whining.

 

[Numero Uno]

Is this true? I hadn’t seen that reported anywhere.

I would’ve thought there would be a bigger deal about this if the WA/SA clubs could only take 25 players to QLD for the month.

are you saying i'm lying...
saw it on a news feed last night. A WA journalist was discussing which 25 players the Eagles and Freo would take because according to his info that's the direction the AFL are taking

 

[dean33]

LOL.

So now Richmond avoid playing the Eagles twice, avoid the hardest road trip in the comp and instewd play an Eagles home game in QLD.

So hard done by.

Another pampering for the Tigers.

Ok I can play this game as well. So now west coast avoid travelling to Melbourne to play the premiers on a ground they rarely lose and instead get them at their new home with the tigers having to fly on the morning of the game. Stop whining.

 

[dean33]

I know right..We are hubbing on the other side of the country and losing our home game to the Premiers but it's Richmond supporters squealing

you can't make this shite up

We are not squealing, we are laughing at the whining coming out of WA from your premier down.

 

[The Warlord]

Hawks and Bombers have both been scheduled home games at their opponents home ground, there's 2 slight inconveniences for you.

We have to fly up to Sydney the day of a game, literally the morning of a game.

 

[Final Siren]

Are you actually saying that with the same straight face that Travis Auld of the VFL has? Richmond has an away game against West Coast on the Gold Coast i.e. not in Perth, without their fans (when fans could be back later in the year), much easier flight, West Coast players would've been living in a small hotel room for about 3-4 weeks by then, away from their homes, family's, friends etc. and yet that it is the fairest result.

The most impartial AFL fan knows full well that is not fair. Richmond has again made out like bandits getting West Coast away at a neutral venue without fans whilst still not having to give up a home game, which West Coast does.

You are dead set deluded my friend.

Leaving aside the fact that Richmond has nothing to do with the WA premier deciding to lock out the rest of the country, this argument assumes that West Coast & Richmond will have the same number of home & away games, which isn't going to happen. If you wind up with 8 home games, then sure, I understand getting mad. But West Coast will get 9 because of exactly this situation. You're complaining about something that hasn't even happened.

Also there's a whole lot of people in here grossly overstating the effect of home ground advantage. In reality, two teams are going to run out onto a patch of grass somewhere and play in front of no crowd, and what they do in the next 120 minutes will have very little to do with who caught what flight, or who slept in a hotel the night before, or whether the grass was grown in Victoria, Queensland, or WA.

 

[HTT]

Further to this, let's not forget, Richmond players and staff would not have had their lives disrupted whatsoever, getting to live from the comforts of their spacious homes surrounded by their wives / children / girlfriends / boyfriends / pets / family's / friends etc. with the freedom to move around the city as they see fit in their cars, all the while, the Eagles players and staff will be cooped up in a room no bigger than the standard bedroom for 3-4 weeks away from their wives / children / girlfriends / boyfriends / pets / family's / friends etc. without the freedom to move around all the while living in a foreign city without their cars etc.

Perhaps if Richmond players and staff had to give up all of the things Eagles players had to, particularly Riewoldt who continuously rolls his kid any chance he gets you might have an argument, but until your players have to give up as much as West Coast players will have to, you just have no argument whatsoever.

It's not a 'hub' as first described, with no access in or out. The clubs are setting up their training base there for a month. And the players of clubs not relocating are under similar severe restrictions. They will basically be under stage 3 restrictions, no visitors and only leaving home for essential tasks. The only difference is players in the hubs are staying in a resort while players out of them are at home.
By the end of the month you'd be starting to get sick of it. But I think it will also provide a nice, if small, break from the absolute monotony of the last ~2 months, which players from clubs not hubbing won't get. Of course you'd rather be at home than in the hub, otherwise other clubs would be trying to get into one. But its nowhere near as bad as you're making it out to be.

The mistake was when the hub was decided to be set up in SEQLD. Guaranteed to burn home games away from home. If they were in Melbourne it could be avoided completely, and they could get a massive run of home games in the back end of the season, which is as good as a gifted flag (apparently)

 

[dean33]

are you saying i'm lying...
saw it on a news feed last night. A WA journalist was discussing which 25 players the Eagles and Freo would take because according to his info that's the direction the AFL are taking

That’s 25 football department staff not 25 players, you are permitted to take your whole list. Stop playing the victim.

‘We think it stings’: West Coast apply for special AFL exemption

The Eagles also expect any games played in the Queensland hub to be classified as “away” fixtures.

www.google.com.au

 

[Numero Uno]

Ok I’ll spell it out for you, originally we were playing you twice in Perth and Melbourne. Now you are only playing us once at your home hub, you would have already been there for a month, you get on a bus and drive the 15 mins while we get on a plane and fly the 2 hrs. That’s an advantage to west coast. So previously home and away, now it’s more advantage to you. Stop whining.

No our advantage is playing our home game at our home ground...anything less than that is an advantage to the opposition
you're confusing advantage with finding positives with a less than situation

funny also how now when it suits Richmond travelling is a disadvantage
I've been told countless times by your supporter base that flying to the other side of the country every 2 weeks is EXACTLY the same as walking across the road to your home ground for the majority of the season....

 

[The Warlord]

Its still playing in Northern Antartica instead of the MCG or Marvel.

Its a 2nd rate stadium often played in atrocious conditions.

All to prop up struggling Vic clubs.

Dont win too often down there......once I recall. Have a much higher win rate in Melbourne.

It is Tasmania, it is an international quality stadium where Test cricket is played.

Football is a winter sport. You sook about propping up struggling Vic clubs, then say you want the comp expanded to be properly national - which would include a full time Tassie team and MORE games there.

You've played us three times at Bellerive. Two losses and a win.

At least there's actual neutral umpiring there, we don't have to put up with Dean Cox's wedding guests giving him free after free after free.

Western Australians are massive soft sooks is what I've taken from this thread.

Enormously soft whingers. Trump like. If it doesn't go 100 per cent their way, boo hoo hoo, it is all biased and rigged.