At their peak it's Carey and Corey for mine.
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Never?
So what you're admitting to is even if Franklin wins the next 4 Coleman medals, a premiership and a 2 norm smiths, you're not going to relinquish your thoughts.
How anyone can be so bold as to suggest a player as talented as Franklin will "never" get to specific point when they are still at the peak of their powers, I do not know. Unless of course, it does not matter what the said player achieves, because you will not rate it, regardless.
Never?
So what you're admitting to is even if Franklin wins the next 4 Coleman medals, a premiership and a 2 norm smiths, you're not going to relinquish your thoughts.
If your basing the poll on firepower around goal there can only be one answer Franklin/Roughead.
I'm fine with that as I've said Wayne & Corey, but Leigh also said he'd never seen a better season from a player after Franklins 08.IIRC, that was the year Leight Matthews described them on Talking Footy : "If either Carey or McKernan plays well, North are going to beat most teams. If they both play well, no-one can beat North."
I'm fine with that as I've said Wayne & Corey, but Leigh also said he'd never seen a better season from a player after Franklins 08.
I'm fine with that as I've said Wayne & Corey, but Leigh also said he'd never seen a better season from a player after Franklins 08.
McKernan was a behometh in '96 and at his peak was the perfect forward/ruck. He had some shocking years, but Rough hasn't got close to McKernan's best.
100% spot on, it's all opinion. I don't think the poll is fair as the Hawk pair are only 25yrs of age and haven't finished etching out their careers.Which is all great, but it's just one man's opinion. Certainly if you're only talking about Hawthorn players Dunstall's 1992 was just as good if not better. Or Lockett's 1991. Or Ablett's 1989 or 1993. It's even more amazing when you think he saw a teammate kick 150 in a season too.
Well Harvey WAS excellent that year..but I suspect Carey's habit of giving the umps a spray didn't help his chances.Carey's 1998 is the best season I've seen from a power forward, bar none.
No disrespect to Robert Harvey but how he didn't win a Brownlow that year is still a mystery.
If the O.P doesn't deem firepower as a criteria, it invites the question why did select two Hawthorn forwards for this poll. A better comparison would be Cox and Natinuie if your looking at overall output. In Franklin and Rougheads best year as a combination, both players were stationed in the foward line. Overall output favours utilities who are blessed with a license to follow the ball as was Mckernan's brief in 1996. It's like comparing a rover to a forward pocket on overall output, the odds are heavily stacked in the rovers favour.Geez. Thankfully we're not basing the poll on this.
If the O.P doesn't deem firepower as a criteria, it invites the question why did select two Hawthorn forwards for this poll. A better comparison would be Cox and Natinuie if your looking at overall output.
He plays on the ball now but he didn't in 2008. Got another poll for you Judd v Le Cras who would you have?Cox and NicNat Nah don't get it; shocking comparison to Carey and McKernan. Buddy and Roughead are a significantly better poll option, with Roughy getting on the ball now and again, as McKernan did, albeit not as much, but more so recently.
It's really just about watching the players. Forget counting up goals and what-not when Roughead played more forward; McKernan was a beast at his best and Carey was just something else. I don't care how many goals Buddy and Roughy combined for a few years ago, it doesn't make them the better option.
He plays on the ball now but he didn't in 2008. Got another poll for you Judd v Le Cras who would you have?
This.At their peak one was the best player ever and the other would have had a brownlow compared to a Coleman and a top 10 key position forward
Yeah, Brent Le Cras never really got a chance to show what he could do.Judd. Easy. Next!
This.Carey
Buddy
Roughead
McKernan
I voted the Hawks pair.
This.
Personally I think Carey's 1996 and 1998 were better than McKernan's 1996.
This.
No disrespect to the Hawthorn players mentioned but it really isn't close.
McKernan at his best was a devastating ruckman/forward & is extremely underrated by some on here and Carey of course is regarded by many as one of the very best of all time.
This.
I think people only remember Corey at the end of his career (short memories are far too common on Bigfooty). At his peak he was one of the top players in the game. Roughhead, with all due respect, has never performed at that level.At their absolute best, McKernan was that far below Roughead?
Na, in his best season McKernan was named the "best" by the umpires, he just wasn't the "fairest".
In Roughead's best season he played 2nd fiddle to Buddy very well....McKernan was definitely not just 2nd fiddle to Carey in 96