Roast We are bottom!

[bomberclifford]

The spoon would be worse than 119.

I have no issues with us finishing 16th, but 17th would be a nightmare.

I believe that this year, 16th is as bad as 17th.
Next year, 17th and 18th are the equivalent of the spoon.

I'm down with Matty's tack of playing young and weeding out the pretenders but at some stage this season, we need to pick teams soley to win games to ensure we don't finish lower than 14th/15th.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

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As Ford has pointed out and also noticed myself since Port entered is that every side has been at the bottom or thereabouts........

Not Geelong - unless you consider 7 wins and 1 draw in 2003 and finishing 12th as thereabouts. A couple of other 12ths in 1998 and 2001 they were still able to produce 9 wins in each of those seasons.

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/teams/geelong/season.html

And from Kevin Taylor's Footy Diary Stats - main page about 40% down the page, written before the Rd 9 games, and before it gets archived in the Rd 9 file.

It was back in mid 2000 when we were last on the bottom of the ladder, when St Kilda smacked us in Rd 11 and Rd 12 we played the Kangas in freezing winds at the SCG at 11.30am - Josh Carr debutted and Shane Bond did his knee and never played again. We played a boring dour solid game of footy and lost 8.11-59 to 10.16 -76. And D_One gave gave Wayne Carey one of the best sledges I've ever heard at the footy.

http://www.footystats.freeservers.com/Daily/Diary.html

Bruce Kennedy

Geelong has never finished lower than 12th

Geelong has not finished below 12th place in its history. Every other side has endured a lower finish.

Here is a list of the lowest finishing position and the most recent a club has held last place on the ladder –

Last finished bottom place				Last time in bottom place
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Geelong...	12th		2003	Sydney...	16th	1999-R3
Adelaide	13th		1999	Port Adel	16th	2000-R12
Brisbane	14th (WS)	1992	St Kilda	16th	2003-R4
Port Adel	14th		2000	Geelong...	16th	2004-R3
North Melb	14th		2006	Adelaide	16th	2004-R4
Essendon	15th		2006	Collingwood	16th	2005-R9
Hawthorn	15th		2004	Essendon	16th	2006-R18
Sydney...	15th(WS)	1994	Carlton....	16th	2006-R22
Carlton....	16th(WS)	2006	Hawthorn	16th	2007-R1
Collingwood	16th (WS)	1999	Fremantle	16th	2009-R16
Fremantle	16th (WS)	2001	Melbourne	16th	2010-R1
Melbourne	16th (WS)	2009	Richmond	16th	2010-R13
Richmond	16th (WS)	2007	West Coast	16th	2010-R22
St Kilda	16th (WS)	2000	West.B’dogs	17th *	2011-R1
West Coast	16th (WS)	2010	Gold Coast	17th	2011-R4
West.B’dogs	16th (WS)	2003	North Melb	17th	2011-R5
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.......Brisbane	17th	2011-R7
*WS* denotes Wooden Spoon				WB first to 17th

 

[*PAF]

Brisabane 16th (WS) 1998

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Brisabane 16th (WS) 1998

Ah Mr Kennedy needs to be corrected. Wonder if its a Bears v Lions error.

 

[*PAF]

Ah Mr Kennedy needs to be corrected. Wonder if its a Bears v Lions error.

Yeah looks like it could be, but if he is going to include "old" temas such as the Brisbane Bears, then Fitzroy should be there as well.

 

[Changaneen]

Finishing bottom would be the greatest disaster to have ever befallen our club - worse than any grand final humiliation, worse than anything that has ever happened at our club.
It must not happen, regardless of any "rebuilding" or education/re-education of our playing squad.
Any **** er that says or thinks that it doesn't matter finishing bottom should just **** off and never show their face at Alberton again.

Yes, yes, yes !!!!!!

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Not Geelong - unless you consider 7 wins and 1 draw in 2003 and finishing 12th as thereabouts. A couple of other 12ths in 1998 and 2001 they were still able to produce 9 wins in each of those seasons.

It was back in mid 2000 when we were last on the bottom of the ladder, when St Kilda smacked us in Rd 11 and Rd 12 we played the Kangas in freezing winds at the SCG at 11.30am - Josh Carr debutted and Shane Bond did his knee and never played again. We played a boring dour solid game of footy and lost 8.11-59 to 10.16 -76. And D_One gave gave Wayne Carey one of the best sledges I've ever heard at the footy.

Geelong has never finished lower than 12th

Geelong has not finished below 12th place in its history. Every other side has endured a lower finish.

Amazing record by Geelong. Are they what we call the exception that proves the rule?

Just a minor point, Carry debuted in round 8 at Footy Park v Melbourne in 2000.

 

[powermacs]

Geelong had a few handy father son picks that helped them stay off the bottom.

 

[Natman]

If, just if, we do have a mini-revival later in the season as we did in 2000, will we be posting that we missed out on the Riewoldt/Kosi equivalent picks in a couple of years?

Do we bottom out properly or use the last half of a season as a kick start?

 

[Peck]

We don't need number 1 draft picks to win games. Saint Kilda may have two good players in Goddard and Reiwoldt that help them significantly, but its the way the rest of their players play that got them to two grand finals. This "we need to bottom out properly" stuff is BS.

The only reason we should be finishing last is because the players we are playing haven't reached their potential yet. This will see us improve later, not the couple of draft picks we get.

 

[Forzaport]

If, just if, we do have a mini-revival later in the season as we did in 2000, will we be posting that we missed out on the Riewoldt/Kosi equivalent picks in a couple of years?

Do we bottom out properly or use the last half of a season as a kick start?

A mini revival will be very welcome, especially if it's due to the young kids. As far as I'm concerned we already have a plethora of young talent on our list. The most important challenge for us is to develop the players we already have. Draft pick #4 might net us someone better than pick #8 or #12 but if we can't develop what we've already got then we won't be getting off the bottom rung of the ladder anytime soon.

 

[Schulzenfest]

If, just if, we do have a mini-revival later in the season as we did in 2000, will we be posting that we missed out on the Riewoldt/Kosi equivalent picks in a couple of years?

The negative of missing out on Riewoldt is almost balanced out by the positive of missing out on Kosi

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Amazing record by Geelong. Are they what we call the exception that proves the rule?

Just a minor point, Carry debuted in round 8 at Footy Park v Melbourne in 2000.

Bad memory. I just remember Choco going on about him after the game. He did a big shut down role - I think on Shanon Grant. I looked up his record and saw that he played at the SCG 3 weeks earlier (rd 9) against the Swans. I also remember that game, but forgot which one was first.

 

[Peck]

A mini revival will be very welcome, especially if it's due to the young kids. As far as I'm concerned we already have a plethora of young talent on our list. The most important challenge for us is to develop the players we already have. Draft pick #4 might net us someone better than pick #8 or #12 but if we can't develop what we've already got then we won't be getting off the bottom rung of the ladder anytime soon.

Exactly my point. I don't think I said it well before but basically what I meant is this.

When a team bottoms out, they are often playing younger players. The games they get into these younger players are what sees them improve, rather than the high draft picks they have. At least in my opinion.

On top of this I'll add that we already have a couple of gun mids that were drafted early in Boak and Hartlett. We just need to get games into a consitent midfield group and we will see the rewards.

Hopefully Pearce can find himself, but even if he doesn't we still have some good players there, and when they have played together for a long time they will hopefully reach their potential. Once we have Thomas, Boak, Hartlett, Jacobs, Broadbent, Banner, Moore etc. working together all knowing where to run, when to shepherd, where their team mates will be and so on it will be awesome.

There is always the chance it won't happen, but I may as well stop following footy if I'm going to give up now.

 

[spudmaster]

The negative of missing out on Riewoldt is almost balanced out by the positive of missing out on Kosi

Winner!

 

[The Smaller Warrior]

Delete this thread.

 

[Shane_Mag]

I guess nobody told the players hey?

 

[Peck]

Delete this thread.

LMAO just came in here to post the exact same thing.

 

[thurmanmunson]

bumpity bump...

 

[Shane_Mag]

bumpity bump...

Obviously has forgotten about his own side today.

 

[brogan2motlop]

Obviously has forgotten about his own side today.

Lmao I couldn't believe he bumped it

 

[The Smaller Warrior]

Um,

We are still not bottom???

The Gold Coast are below us mate

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Aren't we above Gold Coast? So we're still not bottom...

 

[thurmanmunson]

Obviously has forgotten about his own side today.

Would you like me to draw you a picture? How would I know that Brisbane are now 16th if I didn't know they had beaten the Crows?

Logic, my friend, logic.

 

[brogan2motlop]

Would you like me to draw you a picture? How would I know that Brisbane are now 16th if I didn't know they had beaten the Crows?

Logic, my friend, logic.

Still what's your point of bumping this?