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Digusted, shocked and appallled.
That and has got some currency.
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Digusted, shocked and appallled.
That and has got some currency.
The two most disappoitning players for mine were Betts and Walker
Betts is just so selfish and so lairy, always goes for balls with one hand and is very unaccountable, he really has had a very poor 4-5 weeks
Walker showed why he has been in the vfl in the last 2 weeks, he just isnt up to it and is workrate is terrible, he has got to be the weakest tackler I've seen, he gets pushed aside so easily, he should be sent straight back to the vfl
Betts is just so selfish and so lairy, always goes for balls with one hand and is very unaccountable, he really has had a very poor 4-5 weeks
Walker showed why he has been in the vfl in the last 2 weeks, he just isnt up to it and is workrate is terrible, he has got to be the weakest tackler I've seen, he gets pushed aside so easily, he should be sent straight back to the vfl
thought we were good.
very flat and looking a touch tired maybe we should rest our 7 most important players next week
very flat and looking a touch tired maybe we should rest our 7 most important players next week
Lack of faith in ones team exposed. On the MCG we will not lose to geelong, eithad they have a shot because their slow bulky defenders don't have to cover as much ground but on the open MCG our smalls run wild.
8 goals vs 0 goals, you work it out
I've said it a million times. Walker needs to be played as a forward. However he does need to work heavily on his tacking over the pre-season (his tackling has been deplorable of late). He' got the speed, ability to take a contested mark and dangerous when the ball hits the deck. Imo he'd compliment Waite, Hendo, Betts, Garlett, Yarran, etc perfectly.
All is good.
Footy lesson? OVerstatement of the year.
I don't really think any sane supporter doesn't realise where we are. We are a team who will finish in the bottom half of the eight. We have a few holes than can be picked. We are relatively unreliable for a known result and can surprise a team on any given day.
We didn't get embarrased tonight. We were just simply not at the same level that Geelong are; and have been for 2 years. We pushed them for say 30 minutes where if we took our chances then we would have gained the advantage. As a young side of course the result was not always going to happen but really you can take a lot from this game tonight. I'm normally not one for "good losses" or "played alright" but really Geelong are just amazing.
Most of the team can hold their heads up high.
I don't really think any sane supporter doesn't realise where we are. We are a team who will finish in the bottom half of the eight. We have a few holes than can be picked. We are relatively unreliable for a known result and can surprise a team on any given day.
We didn't get embarrased tonight. We were just simply not at the same level that Geelong are; and have been for 2 years. We pushed them for say 30 minutes where if we took our chances then we would have gained the advantage. As a young side of course the result was not always going to happen but really you can take a lot from this game tonight. I'm normally not one for "good losses" or "played alright" but really Geelong are just amazing.
Most of the team can hold their heads up high.
Will rue missed chances/opportunites.
Still played a decent game, really only a 4/5 goal better team were Geelong on the night. Changes still have to be made against Freo.
Still played a decent game, really only a 4/5 goal better team were Geelong on the night. Changes still have to be made against Freo.
What's wrong with speed, ability to mark and dangerous on deck in the backline? Really if you have all of these attributes then you should make it at either end.
The only thing holding Walker back is his decision making. His skills are fine; he just still looks a bit scared for someone in there 6th season (?).
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The issue as stated is clearly his inability to tackle and most importantly his kicking. You don't want the ball getting turned over coming out of the back half. I never stated that those qualities I mentioned would not be a good fit for the backline. He does however have limitations that hinder his ability to perform consistently as a backman.
Overall Walker, imho, would be a very dangerous forward his attributes as a medium sized marking forward. He'd be kicking at goal more so than streaming out of defence trying to hit up targets and trying to break zone's.
I agree we don't want him turning over the ball in the backline. I wasn't stating I want him there; was just saying that if he would be a good forward then really he should be a good backmen. In reality he is neither.
Could be the next Kouta but I think his chances are slipping. Grigg, Armfield and Russel have past him at this stage.
Plus I think our kicking for goal is shithouse as it is.
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yeah was a bit harsh, didn't do a bad job on the champ, kept his posessions low but Abletts posessions really hurt. We missed Carrazzo as an outside attacking option today, we should have taken Carrazzo off ablett when ablett went forward and got him free as much as possible, I think we were instructed to run off him and a few others which is fine. It wasn't a bad loss, but at then end of the day it was a loss and a comfortable one, I'm just stating where we were beaten and where we need to be, harsh but fair. All in all I'm still very confident for 2011 but not for this finals series.
Walker could not be the next Kouta. Kouta was a hulk of a man, strong on his legs, around the hips and upper body. Walker is nothing like thi, he's far too light and doesn't have the all round body strength. Get's pushed around far too easily. If you pitted walker and kouta together Kouta would brush him aside with one arm tied behind his back. Walker needs to stack on a whole lot of muscle but then again our whole list does.
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At least we won't be at Toilet Dome again this year. Hopefully we won't be at the SCG either.
Is gbatman the only one overly disappointed with the loss?
BlueYoss
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My favourite loss since round 12 last year.
2 years ago Geelong were already halfway through winning 2 flags in 3 years.
He's only played 10 games.
2 years ago Geelong were already halfway through winning 2 flags in 3 years.
He's only played 10 games.
40yearBLUE
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Its obvious that the score is irrelevant to peoples emotions. A few weeks ago we lost by 4 more points than this against top of the ladder team and it was described as a pitiful effort lacking in spirit and pride for the jumper, but tonight against the team second on the ladder we lose by 4 points less and it was a fighting loss in which we coulda woulda if only we hadda taken our chances.
You are a funny lot.
You are a funny lot.
40yearBLUE
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Men v boys was the most apt description. We have some growing to go. Seeing all those tackles fail is what really bought it home. And we panic running into our 50 a lot, experience will fix that. Having Waite and Hendo firing will straighten us up in years to come. And not surprised the likes of Garlett drift in and out, still very young.
And man are we lucky we have Hendo, he kicks the crap out of Tom Hawkins. All hype is Hawkins, all class is Hendo.
Swan r*ped Voss on that deal.
About where I thought we would be, pretty happy with that, dont like losing and the margin looks much worse than it was, but about where we are and if that is where we are you cant complain about it. Would like to give Freo a lesson next week, given they sent their reserves to play the Hawks. Really hope we can make them look silly with that one.
And man are we lucky we have Hendo, he kicks the crap out of Tom Hawkins. All hype is Hawkins, all class is Hendo.
Swan r*ped Voss on that deal.
About where I thought we would be, pretty happy with that, dont like losing and the margin looks much worse than it was, but about where we are and if that is where we are you cant complain about it. Would like to give Freo a lesson next week, given they sent their reserves to play the Hawks. Really hope we can make them look silly with that one.
The difference is in the Collingwood game, we narrowed the margin from 60+ with a few junk time goals after the Pies had taken their feet off the pedal. Tonight we kept batling from the opening siren and the Cats just had too much talent.
40yearBLUE
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The Pies had too much talent for us and form to go with it. It dont matter in the end, the percentage they award against us in a 48 point loss is only just more than in a 44 point loss.
There is no doubt we looked better for longer in this game but the result was the same. The reaction on here aint. Thats my point.
It was all sack this guy sack that guy and dont get me started on the anti Ratts stuff. Complete over reaction. But some of the same posters are not too disappointed with that fighting loss, you included it seems. If we are 8 goals off the pace it dont much matter does it.
And we are. But not for much longer. Its coming together.
You're not really that ignorant are you?
40yearBLUE
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You're not really that serious are you?
I am not praising either performance. I am saying that I understand how these things happen in the arc from bottom of the ladder to top side and there is no point whining and moaning about this player or that, or the coach or the admin and all the carry on in the week after the Collingwood loss. Geelong went through it, and came out the other side and they didnt start from anywhere near as far back as we did. And time after time, the more rational posters point this out to the less rational but it doesnt seem to sink in. Then we have a "fighting" 7 goal loss and somehow that does not draw out the loony element.....come one mate have a look around and tell me that you dont find that a little odd?
You can see from the reaction tonight that there wont be the same vitriol in people posts. My point is that there shouldnt have been in the first place. As much as it might pain us, the Pies are a genuine chance. We arent. But we are building in the right direction and on track. I think next year we will be top 4 if we can keep our best 22 or so on the park.
Ha! This guys hilarious!
CrippsonBlue
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Odd?
The final margin is largely irrelevant, with how the game is played these days.
Our own coach labeled our effort against the Pies a disgrace pretty much, because it was - to try and draw parallels with tonight's game, or suggest our reactions to each loss should be the same is a ridiculously simplistic view.
I guess we should have praised our efforts against Freo, because the margin was only 8 points?
Reactions after the Pies game were mostly justified, and I'm sure would have been mirrored by the coaching staff behind closed doors. Tonight's game however shows to me we should be a top 4 contender next year.
If you can't see the differences, or if you find it odd that there was such a difference in people's reaction, than perhaps pay less attention to stats and margins, and simply watch the games...
difference between this game and the pies game is a lot more than 4 points.
albeit a couple of our players had shockers, judd, betts, garlett, hadley, walker.
the spirit was there at least, murphy was sublime, hendo and waite looked good against scarlett and taylor.
still not happy with the loss and lost my shit when grigg missed that goal but a whole other planet compared to after the pies game.
albeit a couple of our players had shockers, judd, betts, garlett, hadley, walker.
the spirit was there at least, murphy was sublime, hendo and waite looked good against scarlett and taylor.
still not happy with the loss and lost my shit when grigg missed that goal but a whole other planet compared to after the pies game.
