Analysis We Were Port Adelaide - Facts, Statistics, and Quotes

[Janus]

In one short phrase your argument lost all credibility.

A meme (/miːm/ MEEM) is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture—often with the aim of conveying a particular phenomenon, theme, or meaning represented by the meme.

Is not the meme being conveyed here that Port Adelaide isn't the club that it once was, and the people in charge are derelict in their duty?

This was the definition that Richard Dawkins used in his book The Selfish Gene to explain how cultural information spreads and species evolve through that information (vs genes, which adapt through mutation over a much larger time frame).

His usage of the word is perfectly acceptable in this context.

 

[manureid]

 

[S.Patrol.G]

A meme (/miːm/ MEEM) is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture—often with the aim of conveying a particular phenomenon, theme, or meaning represented by the meme.

Is not the meme being conveyed here that Port Adelaide isn't the club that it once was, and the people in charge are derelict in their duty?

This was the definition that Richard Dawkins used in his book The Selfish Gene to explain how cultural information spreads and species evolve through that information (vs genes, which adapt through mutation over a much larger time frame).

His usage of the word is perfectly acceptable in this context.

No, because memes are essentially imitations for comic effect. Alyx is not trying to be humorous, he's stating fact.

 

[Janus]

No, because memes are essentially imitations for comic effect. Alyx is not trying to be humorous, he's stating fact.

"A meme is a concept or behavior that spreads from person to person. Examples of memes include beliefs, fashions, stories, and phrases. In previous generations, memes typically spread within local cultures or social groups. However, now that the Internet has created a global community, memes can span countries and cultures across the world. Memes that are propogated online are called "Internet memes.""

This thread is about the belief that Port Adelaide is no longer about winning premierships. It's not about fact at all, but rather uses fact to correlate belief. For example, we finished out of the eight for X many years (fact) so therefore it must mean that the people in charge are incapable of winning a flag (belief).

That's why they are memes. Facts don't have beliefs or interpretations attached to them. These "facts" do.

 

[tribey]

Gee whiz.

 

[Powerade 08]

Alyx is a meme.

 

[malcheski]

 

[Janus]

Err, I'm not picking and choosing anything. Someone said that the argument a poster made was invalid because they called Alyx's twitter posts 'memes'. I'm saying that by the actual definition of the word, that's exactly what they are.

You can debate the merits of these memes as much as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that they are memes that are based on facts.

I could point to the number of players that we have delisted every year since 2013 and state as "fact" that it means the list wasn't good enough to win a flag. But that would just be a meme too.

Just because you agree with it, doesn't mean it's true. It's just true for you.

 

[S.Patrol.G]

Err, I'm not picking and choosing anything. Someone said that the argument a poster made was invalid because they called Alyx's twitter posts 'memes'. I'm saying that by the actual definition of the word, that's exactly what they are.

You can debate the merits of these memes as much as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that they are memes that are based on facts.

I could point to the number of players that we have delisted every year since 2013 and state as "fact" that it means the list wasn't good enough to win a flag. But that would just be a meme too.

Just because you agree with it, doesn't mean it's true. It's just true for you.

Is this the approach you use to always prove yourself correct? It's so exhausting. In the end, I'm angry with myself because I knew I should have just let it go.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Err, I'm not picking and choosing anything. Someone said that the argument a poster made was invalid because they called Alyx's twitter posts 'memes'. I'm saying that by the actual definition of the word, that's exactly what they are.

You can debate the merits of these memes as much as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that they are memes that are based on facts.

I could point to the number of players that we have delisted every year since 2013 and state as "fact" that it means the list wasn't good enough to win a flag. But that would just be a meme too.

Just because you agree with it, doesn't mean it's true. It's just true for you.

You ever think “**** it I’ll just let it slide?”

 

[bomberclifford]

Janus is technically correct, but we all knew what type of 'meme' was being referred to and it wasn't the one that Dawkins originally defined.

 

[Powerade 08]

Listen mate, I am related to BIg Bobby Maclean and these are definitey memes.

 

[manureid]

Imagine living with this bloke.

 

[Papa G]

Do people still read Janus' posts?

 

[Steve Dore]

lol, that is clearly not the meaning of meme I was using. It has nothing* to do with Richard Dawkins.



* may or may not mean nothing.

 

[Coobk001]

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That's basically every single post lol

 

[Work Hardery]

You know Alyx has struck a nerve if happy clappers like Janus are trying to discredit his info-graphics by labelling them as 'memes'. Keep up the good work, Alyx

 

[Steve Dore]

Guy uses "meme" on the interwebz in relation to images posted on the interwebz and he obviously means it in the strict Richard Dawkins original definition and not the accepted interwebz definition of an image with a humorous or witty caption.

 

[Coobk001]

Resource - The list your Ken Hinkley Era Stats Thread

I'm going to start this thread with some glowing figures about our coach Ken Hinkley. A coach at the top of his game! I want you to then add your favourite stats. I'm sure we're going to find a few gems. In 2014 we were sitting 2 games a top the table, past mid year and still finished 5th...

www.bigfooty.com

My Favourites:

Showdown Ratio	3 W / 7 L	30.00%
Winning percentage in games decided by 10 points or less	7 W / 17 L	29.17%
Winning percentage in games decided by 20 points or less	13 W / 24 L	35.14%
Record Vs Top 8 sides	15 W / 37 L	28.85%

Our leading goal kicker in 2019 was a 1st year small forward with 29 goals.
It was the equal 2nd lowest total of goals to win the award since 1952.
Since 2014, our leading goal kicker award has been won by small forward 4 times out of 5.


Best Performances since 2015:

01. West Coast: 2018
02. Richmond: 2017
03. W. Bulldogs: 2016
04. Hawthorn: 2015
05. Collingwood: 2018
06. Adelaide: 2017
07. Sydney: 2016
08. Fremantle: 2015
09. Geelong: 2017
10. Melbourne: 2018
11. GWS: 2017
12. Nth. Melbourne: 2015
13. Brisbane: 2019 —*
14. Port Adelaide: 2017
15. Essendon: 2019 *
16. St. Kilda: 2016
17. Carlton: 2016
18. Gold Coast: 2016

 

[edgie]

To think we were possibly one kick away in 2017 from swapping places with St Kilda on that ladder...

 

[bomberclifford]

Guy uses "meme" on the interwebz in relation to images posted on the interwebz and he obviously means it in the strict Richard Dawkins original definition and not the accepted interwebz definition of an image with a humorous or witty caption.

It's not even about a definition, the tone was derogatory and demeaning, so they clearly weren't referring to what Dawkins was talking about. The intent was to belittle what Alyx was doing.

 

[Elite Finger Twirler]

Yep.

We swallowed 2015 as something of a blip/backslide/consolidation year. For the most part 2016 was begrudgingly accepted due to the Ryder/Monfries suspensions and virtually career-ending injuries to Schulz and White in Round 1.

But whichever way you cut it, 2017, 2018 and 2019 were unacceptable, putrid garbage.

So even if we maintain the generosity of a pass for 15/16, the trio of most recent seasons are more than enough to light the torches and lube up the pitchforks.

In the wider context of the raging bin blaze the club has been since 2007, appeals for calm, faith, patience and unerring loyalty to this mess are absolutely f***ing bonkers.

I disagree. Personally I thought the writing was already on the wall at this point after horrendous losses to Adelaide, Sydney and Melbourne. We had fallen back into our embarrassing old habit of dropping our pants.

Hinkley should have been out the door at the end of 2017.

 

[VineValerian]

Listen mate, I am related to BIg Bobby Maclean and these are definitey memes.

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Well I'm Dwayne Johnson's bigger, older, uglier brother, and you'll have to fight me in a bare knuckles slugfest in a trough of bleached mud if you think you can debate what a meme is or isn't

 

[tribey]

I disagree. Personally I thought the writing was already on the wall at this point after horrendous losses to Adelaide, Sydney and Melbourne. We had fallen back into our embarrassing old habit of dropping our pants.

Hinkley should have been out the door at the end of 2017.

Oh, no question. He’s an out-of-depth potato who cashed in on the post-2012 boost.

But we’re totes winning the flag in 2025.

 

[Elite Finger Twirler]

Do people still read Janus' posts?

I like to look at the avatar sometimes.